Comments by "Fred Bloggs" (@fredbloggs5902) on "4680 Battery Announcement" video.

  1. Note: There are solvents for ‘pink goo’, (eg. THF) but they are highly inflammable/explosive and on the scale required are best left to experts in a controlled environment. So, YES, the packs can be recycled on an industrial scale fairly easily, just don’t try it at home. So will all the desperate virtue signallers please stop going on about it?
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  2. Except they demounted it very easily.
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  3. There are solvents for ‘pink goo’, (eg. THF) but they are highly inflammable/explosive and on the scale required are best left to experts in a controlled environment. So, YES, the packs can be recycled on an industrial scale fairly easily.
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  4. Most modern cars are written off the moment the airbags go off.
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  5. There are solvents for ‘pink goo’, (eg. THF) but they are highly inflammable/explosive and on the scale required are best left to experts in a controlled environment. So, YES, the packs can be recycled on an industrial scale fairly easily.
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  6. There are solvents for ‘pink goo’, (eg. THF) but they are highly inflammable/explosive and on the scale required are best left to experts in a controlled environment. So, YES, the packs can be recycled on an industrial scale fairly easily.
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  7.  @tmcche7881  There right here in the comments, insisting that the goo makes the packs impossible to recycle. Go see for yourself.
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  8.  @LachskoenigIV  good point. 1) The batteries are likely to be discharged first for basic safety reasons. 2) I couldn’t track down a figure for conductivity, but most organic solvents do not, and its low permitivity makes it unlikely.
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  9. There are solvents for ‘pink goo’, (eg. THF) but they are highly inflammable/explosive and on the scale required are best left to experts in a controlled environment. So, YES, the packs can be recycled on an industrial scale fairly easily.
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  10. The recyclability of the packs is not the business that Munro are in, so they very sensibly will steer clear of speculation about a multimillion industry that they don’t know much about.
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  11. There are solvents for ‘pink goo’, (eg. THF) but they are highly inflammable/explosive and on the scale required are best left to experts in a controlled environment. So, YES, the packs can be recycled on an industrial scale fairly easily, just don’t try it at home.
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  12. There are solvents for ‘pink goo’, (eg. THF) but they are highly inflammable/explosive and on the scale required are best left to experts in a controlled environment. So, YES, the packs can be recycled on an industrial scale fairly easily.
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  13. If you get 10% more range and never have to repair it, then the compromises that would be required to make it ‘repairable’ are utterly pointless. Louis Rossmann is always moaning about ‘repairability’ but he went out and bought one anyway because it’s the best.
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  14.  @florianj4218  please provide your evidence that a single cell failure causes complete pack failure.
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  15. There are solvents for ‘pink goo’, (eg. THF) but they are highly inflammable/explosive and on the scale required are best left to experts in a controlled environment. So, YES, the packs can be recycled on an industrial scale fairly easily.
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  16. Go learn something before pronouncing judgement. And lithium isn’t remotely rare.
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  17. They did. It’s still wise to take precautions... ...oh wait, I forgot, you’re an expert 🤡
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  18. There are solvents for ‘pink goo’, (eg. THF) but they are highly inflammable/explosive and on the scale required are best left to experts in a controlled environment. So, YES, the packs can be recycled on an industrial scale fairly easily.
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  19. There are solvents for ‘pink goo’, (eg. THF) but they are highly inflammable/explosive and on the scale required are best left to experts in a controlled environment. So, YES, the packs can be recycled on an industrial scale fairly easily. Please stop your desperate virtue signalling.
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  20. There’s no evidence that this makes the industrial recycling of the packs significantly harder.
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  21. Heated polyurethane is extremely toxic. Please leave this to experts, they actually do know what they’re doing.
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  22. The pack removal appeared pretty simple to me. Tesla have stated goals of a battery pack lasting a million miles and being replaced for less than $8k.
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  23. If they fail within warranty it isn’t your problem.
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  24. The packs have an 8 year warranty.
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  25. By using appropriate equipment specifically developed for the task.
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  26. An industrial shredder works fine thanks.
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  27. Please explain how Tesla are using ‘micro transactions’ with their battery packs.
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  28.  @DanHym  Charging extra to turn on something that many people don’t want seems reasonable and isn’t remotely characterised as a ‘micro transaction’.
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  29. The packs are easily removed for recycling.
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  30. Wow! The rampant virtue signalling about recyclability by keyboard warriors who know nothing is hilarious.
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  31.  @grambo1980  If they’re asking - you’re completely correct. But many are insisting that the goo makes the packs impossible to recycle.
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  32. There are solvents for ‘pink goo’, (eg. THF) but they are highly inflammable/explosive and on the scale required are best left to experts in a controlled environment. So, YES, the packs can be recycled on an industrial scale fairly easily.
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  33. You’ve heard of recycling?
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  34. Last time they discussed this, Monroe stated they send the packs out to a specialist company to have them fully discharged safely before they work on them further.
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  35. You’ve heard of patents, right? Exposing ‘trade secrets’ by an independent third party is not remotely a crime other than in your head.
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  36. I believe they send the packs out to a specialist company for safe discharge. However it’s sensible to proceed taking appropriate safety precautions anyway.
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  37. 1) They have an 8 year warranty. 2) A replacement pack for a traded-in genuine Tesla battery pack doesn’t cost anything like $20k.
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  38. If making the packs ‘easily repairable’ increases the CO2 emissions by 10%, where does that take you in your inane virtue signalling?
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  39. There are solvents for ‘pink goo’, (eg. THF) but they are highly inflammable/explosive and on the scale required are best left to experts in a controlled environment. So, YES, the packs can be recycled on an industrial scale fairly easily.
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  40. Yes, but it’s not a good idea on a small scale because the chemicals involved are hazardous.
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  41. Warranties exist for a reason.
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  42. Find out on Monday
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  43. It’s literally their job.
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  44.  @lenardgor  For the money, like most people.
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  45. There are solvents for ‘pink goo’, (eg. THF) but they are highly inflammable/explosive and on the scale required are best left to experts in a controlled environment. So, YES, the packs can be recycled on an industrial scale fairly easily.
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  46. There are solvents for ‘pink goo’, (eg. THF) but they are highly inflammable/explosive and on the scale required are best left to experts in a controlled environment. So, YES, the packs can be recycled on an industrial scale fairly easily.
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  47. There are solvents for ‘pink goo’, (eg. THF) but they are highly inflammable/explosive and on the scale required are best left to experts in a controlled environment. So, YES, the packs can be recycled on an industrial scale fairly easily.
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  48. There are solvents for ‘pink goo’, (eg. THF) but they are highly inflammable/explosive and on the scale required are best left to experts in a controlled environment. So, YES, the packs can be recycled on an industrial scale fairly easily.
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  49. Warranties exist for a reason.
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  50.  @epoxy1710  Tesla have stated the goal of the pack outlasting the car and/or a million miles.
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  51. There are solvents for ‘pink goo’, (eg. THF) but they are highly inflammable/explosive and on the scale required are best left to experts in a controlled environment. So, YES, the packs can be recycled on an industrial scale fairly easily.
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  52. There are solvents for ‘pink goo’, (eg. THF) but they are highly inflammable/explosive and on the scale required are best left to experts in a controlled environment. So, YES, the packs can be recycled on an industrial scale fairly easily.
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  53. 1) These aren’t LFP 2) The lithium is worth recycling regardless
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  54. There are solvents for ‘pink goo’, (eg. THF) but they are highly inflammable/explosive and on the scale required are best left to experts in a controlled environment. So, YES, the packs can be recycled on an industrial scale fairly easily.
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  55. I believe the battery packs are currently warranted for 8 years.
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  56. People do stupid things, who knew?
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  57. If the pack has already lasted 8 years, I’m guessing a single cell suddenly going bad is unlikely. The overall degradation can be measured. Then you make an informed decision.
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  58. Please provide the evidence for your claim.
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