Comments by "" (@orboakin8074) on "This Religion Actually Helped Abolish Slavery" video.

  1. NICE! This is one I am definitely excited for. Really shocks me how so many westerners are unaware of this fact of history and like to posit the misguided notion that Christianity created slavery and did nothing to oppose it. Heck! In much of Africa, especially my country of Nigeria, before colonialism and Europeans came, slavery was practiced and upheld by the inhabitants and even the Arabs who were there. It wasn't until the British and the French came in that slavery was opposed and eventually abolished either peacefully or via military force. And yes, I know that the British and French did it for their own colonial ambitions but I don't care because at the end of it, the net result was the abolition of slavery. Thank goodness for that.
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  2. As a non-western, I couldn't agree more. The entire reason slavery was abolished in what became Nigeria (my country) is due to western civilization (the British)
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  3.  @killgriffinnow  "Please release Onesimus and welcome him as a Christian brother" -St Paul, New testament. Weird you leave this out.
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  4.  @sirrathersplendid4825  Sir, if industry and technological advancements were all that was needed to end slavery, then the CCP would not be using Uighurs as slaves today and Mauritania would not have waited until the 2000s to abolish slavery and the middle east would also not have slaves today. The industrial revolution played a huge role but it was due to changing cultural norms and the advent of growing liberalism borne from Judeo-Christian framework.
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  5.  @johnbelcher7955  So basically, you make excuses for not reading the bible or understanding context rather than just admit you got this one wrong? There is literally a chapter in the new testament where Saint Paul implores a slave owner to free his slave, Onesimus and welcome him as a Christian. Onesimus was actually freed and became a bishop. So what the hell are you on about when you insist Christianity is pro-slavery just because the old testament (i.e the scriptures before Christianity existed) promote it?
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  6.  @Jamie-Z  Good points. As to the king of Benin or Dahomey as it was called back then, no wrong there. That is the nature of war. He lost and had his ill-gotten treasure taken.
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  7.  @mansamusa8410  Oh, believe me, I never once assumed that muslims created slavery. I know it has existed in all human societies (from nomadic to sedentary) throughout history. My main issue when it comes to how modern people view the subject of slavery is that they tend to over focus on the western world's relatively short phase of partaking in slavery and even revise history to make it seem that they were the only ones responsible for it, especially with regards to Africa. They completely ignore how it was largely because of the Europeans that the Arab, trans-Atlantic, and African slave trades were ended or at least greatly diminished. Plus, unlike the Arab world and, unfortunately, some parts of Africa, the Europeans admitted to the errors of slavery and their own part in it and were the main group who worked more than anyone else to abolish the evil of slavery. Much of the Arab world rarely condemns it and even tries to justify the practice of it, even to this day.
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  8.  @philastevenson  Glad I could help you, friend. As for book recommendations, the best I can recommend (in terms of being objective and well structured regarding my country's history) would be "A History of Nigeria" by Toyin falola. I would also recommend "Conquest and Culture" by Thomas Sowell. There is a good explanation on the various major tribes in Nigeria and how their interactions with the British played a role in the country's history. On the subject of boko haram, they really are not a populist group. They are simply another islamist extremist group (more akin to the Mexican cartel) and the only reason they have continued to exist is due to the poor development and low level of security and socioeconomic opportunities in the north that allowed them to operate with impunity. That has been changing wiwth increased industrialization and education efforts in the north but they keep hampering this and they are still a major problem and islamists from other northern African countries like Chad and Niger have been making incursions into Nigeria to swell their ranks cause trouble.
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  9.  @garyhynes  pretty good point. The best way to counter the woke and their attempts to use the term "awakening" is to simply just re-emphasize their own term "woke". At this point, i doubt they can ever separate themselves from it, much like how the red pill can never be reclaimed by the left.
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  10.  @johnbelcher7955  Well yes, that was progressive (not the shit woke western kind of progressive). Is that a bad thing? They also actually lived by their progressive tenets instead of just talking about them. Jesus saved a prostitute from being stoned to death according to old testament law, cared for the sick on Sabbath against old testament law and many other examples.
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  11. sad but true.
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  12. Sir, why are you lying about Africa? Many of the kingdoms and tribes fought to preserve slavery because it was part of their culture and economy. e.g. Dahomey (Benin). My own country (nigeria) before the british established it, had multiple slavery-pro kingdoms that were abolished and the practice stopped. Why are you lying about Africa?
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  13.  @sirrathersplendid4825  True. It's clear that more than one singular factor played a role in the end.
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  14.  @philastevenson  The only real influence I can say exists is that islam in the north of Nigeria is more resentful of the south and of Christianity and also uses that to fuel more tribal tensions. Due to the longer presence of the British in the southern parts of Nigeria, we benefitted more by embracing the economic model (more free-market oriented) and also embracing western education. Thus, the south tends to have more infrastructure and a more educated and financially well-off population than the north. Though the north is more tribally homogenous, due to the fact that the British, after defeating the Sokoto caliphate but not ending their social structure like in the south, they never modernized like us in the south. That is why terror groups like Boko Haram were able to exist due to the lower socioeconomic standards there and they were created with a mandate of repressing any western influences in the north and causing instability for the south. That being said, a lot more northerners are killed by these terrorists so that has the effect of poisoning the northerners against them.
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  15.  @philastevenson  Again, glad I could help. It always makes me happy to discuss my country's history.
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  16. But this was in the old testament i.e. before Christianity ever existed.
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  17. Someone needs to put this one shirt or make a meme of it! Awake=/=awoke
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  18. Oh, you mean those goddamn democrat/dixiecrat confederates?
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  19. And atheists don't do the same thing? Look at the USSR, Communist China, woke west. This is a humanity-wide condition; not a religion-specific one.
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