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Comments by "80s Music" (@eightiesmusic1984) on "Keir Starmer is catering to the wrong people with endless U-turns | Pubcast #9 clip" video.
Starmer is the establishment pick to maintain neoliberalism. It is as simple as that. Labour surrendered to it under Blair and has nothing to offer. The SNP acts and sounds like an opposition and clearly has a critique of the wild west capitalism that has destroyed Britain,making it the most unequal country in Europe except Bulgaria.The Green Party also understand the issues. The gap will widen under Labour if it forms a government and every problem of today will worsen while it keeps the seat warm for something worse under the Tories in five or ten years time. Under Starmer Labour will be a disaster.
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Most Tory voters support nationalisation of the railways according to polls. It is going to end up the same with water if it is not already ( not seen polls on water). The Labour majority of 1997 was so huge because Tory voters switched to Labour because it had abandoned democratic socialism or social democracy under Blair- its relentless move to the right has continued ever since except under Corbyn. Even in 2017 and 2019 Labour offered policies to the right of the 1945 manifesto. Most people don't know left from right anymore, such is the extent of the ideological victory of Thatcherism/ neoliberalism- it is this that the ruling class and voters must reject in full for there to be any chance of Britain reversing its decline. I won't hold my breath. No wonder Scotland wants out.
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@owendallison6913 The speed of deterioration is not the issue, it is the neoliberal ideology Labour has capitulated to. Unless it rejects it which the Starmer iteration of the party has no intention of doing, Labour has no answers. Try to understand this simple concept.
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Not true- the City of London was clear it would support a Labour government under Corbyn. McDonnell and others did a lot of work to reassure finance and would not have embarked upon ideologically driven policies that were self evidently going to spook the markets before they were implemented. The fact you say this shows a lack of understanding. System is broken not broke.
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The only party with the policies needed that address the crisis of capitalism caused by neoliberalism, fully supported by Labour. The Labour right should be in the Tory party.
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@powderandpaint14 Explain the difference.
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Not true- the US made it clear to Britain that it could pull out of the war even after the commitment had been made. Harold Wilson refused to send troops to Vietnam around thirty years earlier. There was no need for Britain to be involved in the war in Iraq. France made the right decision to condemn it.
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@dannyeleternity7390 Correct. It is up to people to wake up to reality but it is not going to happen in my lifetime or beyond. The choice is still there but the reality is Britain is too far gone which is the fault of the public and the politicians.
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@dannyeleternity7390 As I said, the choice is still there. Neoliberalism can be rejected but I don't think the public have joined up the dots to create a narrative that means it is widely understood that the root cause of every problem in the UK is neoliberalism since 1979. Privatisation, weak unions, low tax for the rich, ever widening income inequality, money being transferred to the rich, etc, are all design features of the system invented to undermine the state and conserve/ increase wealth for the rich at the expense of the majority. It has succeeded beyond its wildest dreams, with the aid of the voters and surrender of the Labour Party ( except under Corbyn). Neoliberalism is so embedded in the fabric of British society and the economy that it is going to be hard to reverse. I do not sense a major shift in public opinion. Thatcher described 'new' Labour has her greatest achievement. The tragedy is that she was correct. I write these words in the hope that I am proved wrong but I think the situation is going to deteriorate significantly in the next few years- on every metric we are heading back to the early twentieth century, which is why it was necessary to form the Labour Party to defend the workers against the exploitation of capitalism.
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@dannyeleternity7390 True. We are living in Thatcher's Britain today but few who profess to be on the left see the reality of this and even less among the wider public. Another measure of her success in transforming Britain permanently.
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@hazyhayley7488 Read The Starmer Project by Oliver Eagleton.
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The Starmer Project by Oliver Eagleton is illuminating.
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Labour has ruled out PR due to the delusion that it can win majorities on its own. Never mind the fact it has only been in power for about 30 years since 1900. Arrogant and delusional.
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There is no hard left in Britain. Tory myth.
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@kalebdaark100 If you knew what you were talking about you would not be referring to the non existent hard left.
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@kalebdaark100 It is not semantics and most definitely not an insult to make an observation about your factual inaccuracy which shows a lack of understanding. No-one on the left both now and in the past refers to themselves or others on the left as the hard left.
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@kalebdaark100 I don't intend to address your point. I could not care less about it. I simply observed that you are wrong about hard left. Move on, in your own words.
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@kalebdaark100 On the contrary it is the polar opposite. I object to the misnomer of the hard left because of how it wrongly categorises moderate policies. It is nothing to do with feeling good. No more to add and you really should desist from trying to continue the discussion. It has concluded.
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