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Comments by "Jake Alter" (@jakealter5504) on "Top 10 MCU Heroes Who Can't Stand Each Other" video.
@MrKingYuji tony and Bucky were beyond rivalry, Bucky didn’t really have anything against Tony but Tony wanted to kill Bucky for what he did to his parents while under brainwashing. Tony also genuinely hated Steve over that betrayal
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He likely suspected it. If he read the files after winter soldier then he would’ve known. Either way he should have told Tony
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Tony didn’t personally make Wanda an enemy, it was his company that caused her to hate him and not something that he personally did. The only thing he personally did to her was keep her inside the avengers compound and that was only because the public and government would’ve torn her apart for the things she did
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@devonjones6597 and it was the vision that Wanda gave him that led him to create ultron and Wanda was the one that let him take the scepter
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@devonjones6597 and yet tony winds up being the only one that takes the blame
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Except only one of them actually hated him and it wasn’t because of anything that he did personally, it was because of something that his company did. In the case of doctor strange it was because their personalities were similar and they only argued. In Steve’s case it was clashing ideals and his trying to protect Bucky after Tony found out that Steve had known that Tony’s parents had been killed by the winter soldier
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Tony definitely hated Steve at the end of civil war
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@samstern2042 that’s true, I didn’t say that the hatred lasted. Tony doesn’t normally hold a grudge unless you really did something to hurt him (like betraying him)
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@leonardolim8976 true. My point was that Steve should’ve at least told Tony that his parents were killed by Hydra, Tony honestly deserved that much. Steve could’ve done it anytime between winter soldier and age of ultron. It’s things like this that make me tend to side more with Tony than Steve. Tony might’ve made mistakes but he always did his best to learn from them (hence why he was so hard on Peter during homecoming). He also had the right idea with the armor around the world idea even if it was poorly handled. Had ultron’s development gone as intended, ultron would’ve been helpful against Thanos. Tony shouldn’t have messed tinkered with the mind stone but, to be fair, he had no idea that the mind stone would act up on its own and cause ultron to go rogue (tony did say that he and banner were no where near the point where they were read to install an ai into the ultron drone). Tony was also right in that the avengers did need to have some accountability due to how bad their public image was becoming and that the sakovia accords would’ve happened regardless. If the accords had gone as tony had wanted (the entire team signed), they could’ve either amended the accords at a later point or they could’ve walked away from the accords as a united team if the accords didn’t work (Tony honestly came off as the more reasonable one when it came to the accords since he knew they were coming and was trying to be flexible in the negotiations with Steve)
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@leonardolim8976 the stone might’ve been incased in something like the space stone was. Thanos gave Loki the staff (with the mind stone) so that Loki could get the space stone, what Loki didn’t know was that the staff was also influencing himself by making himself more aggressive than he normally was
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@Blitze9792 true but Tony wasn’t friends with Natasha
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@leonardolim8976 the orb in Loki’s scepter was the mind stone
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Some of them did have genuine hatred
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The first few movies was them clashing over ideals but civil war was what made it personal
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Mostly quill being a punk, two of those three were quill trying to intimidate people (Thor and Iron Man) who were under enormous stress and not in a good mood
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With strange it was more like clashing egos but still able to work together. With Wanda, she hated him for what his company did and resented him for keeping her in the compound while he was trying to protect her from the blowback of the sakovia accords. With Steve it was partially clashing ideals and partially because Tony endured a major personal betrayal from Steve during civil war
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Unless he read the files at the end of winter soldier. Either way he at least strongly suspected that Bucky had done it
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Only two of them really
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I’d argue that doctor strange was worse. Tony lost most of his ego as the mcu went on
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He did normally get along with people when they were on the same page
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Around half of them did have real problems though
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It’s funny that all the bad things that happened to Wanda get mentioned but none of the bad things that she did get mentioned
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@enadegheeghaghe6369 because her issue with iron man is more one sided, they mention that a stark weapon killed her parents but gloss over everything that she put him through during age of ultron like willingly joining hydra, the visions she gave the avengers, causing hulk to go on a rampage (which tony had to stop), and siding with ultron even though she did eventually turn on him. I’m just annoyed that Wanda never had to really face any repercussions from the things she did
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@enadegheeghaghe6369 true but Wanda had barely any interactions with Tony while she was an avenger outside of the battle of sakovia. Their only other interactions were during the airport battle and during the battle of earth. That’s not a lot of on screen interactions so I wouldn’t really call it a rivalry. Thor and Loki would’ve been a much better choice since the movies really developed their relationship
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