Comments by "" (@krasmasov6852) on "Is Abortion Murder? | Middle Ground" video.

  1.  @rachelkocmoud3113  It depends on whether or not the other person's life is dependent on using your body. Even if the answer is yes, you don't have to use your body to support them if you don't want to. That's not murder. And of course abortion shouldn't be used as a contraceptive, but only because it's inefficient to do so. Should still be an option though.
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  2.  @roberjohnsmith  You would be less surprised if you actually talked to people who have had abortions. Esval's experience is pretty normal. My mother had an abortion in high school when she obviously wasn't ready to have a kid. She finally had me when she was in her early 30s and had financial stability, a house, and no longer had to look after her ailing mother. If she was forced to stay pregnant in high school, I may not exist.
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  3.  @celestialseasonings4160  Lol imagine thinking anti-choice legislation even can be written to protect women.
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  4. Doesn't matter. The only justification necessary for abortion to be okay is that the pregnant person wants one.
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  5. Consenting to sex is not consenting to pregnancy.
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  6.  @matt1325  Lol yes, it does. That's just basic bodily autonomy. Do you not consider protecting basic rights to be moral?
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  7.  @TakeHit0  That's just you policing bodies further. Why? Consenting to sex is not consenting to pregnancy.
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  8. You are genuinely a bad person.
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  9.  @5xmasterx548  Not while the fetus is using the other body to live.
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  10. I wouldn't get to choose. I would like to exist (most days anyways), but it wasn't my call then.
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  11.  @matt1325  That's not what bodily autonomy is. You don't have the right to hurt other people you see out in the world. A toddler has the right not to get sat on. Not sitting on them isn't a violation of bodily autonomy. Forcing a pregnancy is. Bodily autonomy is the ONLY factor that matters. The only justification any pregnant person needs for an abortion is that they want one.
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  12.  @travisjohnson7065  Correct. How the mother happens to feel is what matters since it's her body being used for pregnancy. The baby didn't take any actions. It just exists. Unfortunately, that existence is a problem for someone who doesn't want to be pregnant, and you cannot force someone to use their body to support someone else if they don't want to.
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  13. Abortion is taking responsibility for thosee consequences. Abortion is a tedious process. Contraception is easier. That's what they're likely to do next time. Telling someone to not have sex is just absurd.
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  14. No, you don't.
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  15. "don't have sex" lmao
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  16.  @travisjohnson7065  It can be safe for the pregnant person, and that's what really matters here. No one has the right to live at the expense of someone else's bodily autonomy.
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  17. Forcing someone to stay pregnant is a gross human rights violation, not abortion. No one has the right to live at the expense of someone else's bodily autonomy.
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  18. The circumstance being the pregnant person wants one and that's it.
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  19. How does it not?
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  20.  @_DeadBeat_  People in comas aren't using anyone's body to survive.
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  21.  @_DeadBeat_  This is a really bad comparison because of, you know, what I just said.
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  22.  @_DeadBeat_  That's not what the issue is. It's a matter of bodily autonomy.
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  23. But people don't have to use their bodies to support an unborn baby if they don't want to. That's basic bodily autonomy.
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  24. Nope, the baby's body is considered too. It just doesn't override bodily autonomy. No one has the right to live at the expense of someone else's bodily autonomy.
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  25.  @joegonzalez2752  Nope.
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  26.  @travisjohnson7065  It can depend on someone else's bodily autonomy though. If your right to live is violating someone else's bodily autonomy, then you don't actually have that right to life.
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  27.  @matt1325  Organ harvesting without consent.
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  28.  @travisjohnson7065  They are if they're in the womb of someone who doesn't want to be pregnant.
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  29.  @matt1325  1. I don't think you understand what bodily autonomy is. 2. No, it's not. Again, I don't think you know what bodily autonomy is. Bodily autonomy grants people authority over their bodies, not everything their bodies come into contact with. 3. There is no problem of responsibility. The cause of the pregnancy is absolutely irrelevant. Consenting to sex is not consenting to pregnancy nor is it consenting to removing your right to bodily autonomy. There is no moral obligation to the baby until it is born. 4. This is an irrelevant issue. There is no functional difference between killing and letting someone die. 5. Your organs are for whatever you want them to be for. And no, the fetus is NOT entitled to a womb. You are never entitled to someone else's body.
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  30.  Galleon  Jesus Christ, you hate women.
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  31.  @turquoiseturquoiseturquois1174  Nope, abortion is a basic right. That's the fact no matter how much your precious feelings are hurt over it.
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  32.  @travisjohnson7065  The human right to life doesn't override the human right to bodily autonomy. Where the baby is located matters quite a bit. If it needs the womb to survive, but the owner of the womb doesn't want to use it for that, oh well. Abortion is justified.
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  33.  @travisjohnson7065  I don't think any crime warrants the death penalty. Abortion isn't a punishment. It's a way to end a pregnancy of a person who doesn't want to be pregnant. If you can find a way to do that without killing the fetus, we'll do it that way. Until then, oh well. And a person consenting to a pregnancy and choosing to go through with it isn't a violation of bodily autonomy.
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  34. Yes, it does. If the pregnant person doesn't want to be pregnant, then that person can end the pregnancy. The right to life doesn't override that bodily autonomy. I don't rely on anyone else's bodily autonomy to live, so the comparison is flawed. Giving birth means dealing with 9 months of a pregnancy plus the birthing process. I get why people wouldn't want to do that. If the person doesn't want to be pregnant, their pregnancy does violate their bodily autonomy. If they do want to be pregnant, the pregnancy does not violate their bodily autonomy. It's a pretty simple concept. The pregnancy is the problem, not the unborn child themselves, though that's a distinction I doubt you'll care about. Doesn't really matter anyways. Like I said, if you can find a way to end the pregnancy without killing the fetus (and obviously without having to wait the months it takes to take it to term continuing the violation), then we'll do that instead.
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  35. I'll talk about it as much as you like. It's pretty straightforward. Pro choice all the way. You're gonna have to explain how having bodily autonomy increases the class divide. Not sure what you're even on about there.
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  36.  @dennisortiz-morales9214  You said this, "Its to give power to peoples delusion and feelings in order to continue to feed money and power to the rich and powerful." I'm asking how you justify that claim.
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  37.  @dennisortiz-morales9214  And I'm happy to give answers. It's pretty straightfoward really and has nothing to do with supporting the bourgeoisie.
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  38.  @dennisortiz-morales9214  No. Who would benefit? Abortion pill manufacturers? Medical equipment manufacturers? Doctors? Planned Parenthood? Capitalism will take advantage of every aspect of society and milk it for as much as it can get. Doesn't mean reproductive rights aren't worth pursuing.
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  39.  @dennisortiz-morales9214  Oh they definitely would, but if it's in favor of reproductive rights, I don't care.
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  40.  @dennisortiz-morales9214  Why? What's more important to you? People getting the rights and treatment they deserve or playing politics by the rules? It's not murder. Bodily autonomy allows people to end a pregnancy whenever they want. Doesn't matter if you assign personhood to the fetus. No one has the right to live at the expense of someone else's bodily autonomy.
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  41.  @travisjohnson7065  There is no functional difference. The distinction you're trying to make here is irrelevant. If you were in favor of equal rights for fetuses, you wouldn't be anti-choice. You're giving them the special right to violate bodily autonomy, which is a right we don't extend to people who need kidney transplants to live.
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  42. You can even assign personhood to a fetus. Abortion is still okay. No one has the right to live at the expense of someone else's bodily autonomy.
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  43.  @SirCapsALotTheIV  No, there aren't any logical arguments against abortion.
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  44. You can't really clump all Christians together like that. There are plenty of pro-choice Christians who help take care of kids in foster care.
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  45. RR's in hell.
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  46.  @travisjohnson7065  Yes. This, but unironically.
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  47.  @hettinga359  No, they don't. They provide healthcare to a person who doesn't want to be pregnant anymore.
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  48. In terms of legal obligations, yes. That should absolutely be okay.
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  49.  @travisjohnson7065  That doesn't matter. No one has the right to live at the expense of someone else's bodily autonomy.
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  50.  @himurakenshin3879  The mother also has a right to bodily autonomy, and no one's right to life is more important than that.
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  51.  @Amber-yv8wq  Because the person carrying that child doesn't want to be pregnant. Bodily autonomy is a basic right. The right to life of someone else doesn't override that. Being open to an abortion is being prepared for the consequences of an unwanted pregnancy.
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  52.  @travisjohnson7065  That might be the most egrigious misrepresentation of what someone has said that I've ever seen.
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  53. No one has the right to live at the expense of someone else's bodily autonomy.
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  54.  @felthemeart8258  Yes, it is. So is abortion.
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  55.  @felthemeart8258  It's murder the same way denying a transplant patient your spare kidney is murder.
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  56.  @ethandollarhide7943  What the fuck are you talking about?
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  57. No.
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  58. It's not pro-life it's anti-choice.
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  59. That's why I'm here.
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  60.  @ChrisMacal  It depends if she's planning on having the baby or not. If yes, it's immoral. If no, it's not.
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  61.  @skysoldier1127  Nah abortion is fine. You can't violate someone else's bodily autonomy by not allowing it.
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  62.  @matt1325  Unfortunately for your argument, no person has the right to live at the expense of someone else's bodily autonomy.
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  63.  @kva5751  Right, and no person has the right to live at the expense of someone else's bodily autonomy.
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  64.  @kva5751  Nope. The cause of a pregnancy is irrelevant. Bodily autonomy can never be violated.
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  65.  @mikejohnson2173  Nope, it's pro-choice and anti-choice.
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  66.  @abby3750  It implies that one supports abortion as the solution rather than as a solution.
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  67. Maybe get Sam Seder too. That way Crowder will be too scared to speak.
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  68. And no human has the right to any of that at the expense of another human's bodily autonomy.
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  69.  @rigobatiancila5824  She has the right to choose in any scenario. She can get an abortion if she simply doesn't feel like being pregnant. That's all the justification required. The right to life doesn't override someone else's right to bodily autonomy.
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  70.  @mikeh1066  Feel free to include the baby in the womb. Bodily autonomy still applies. No one's right to life overrides someone else's bodily autonomy. If we can find a way to end the pregnancy without killing the baby, we'll do that instead. Until then, oh well.
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  71.  @mikeh1066  Again, feel free to treat the fetus like a person. Give it full rights as a person. Abortion is still completely justified if the pregnant person wants one. Again, no one has the right to live at the expense of someone else's bodily autonomy. It's no more murder than denying someone with kidney failure your spare kidney is. Abortion must be entirely allowed immediately without exceptions or compromise. The ONLY instance in which abortion is unjustified is when the pregnant person doesn't want one.
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  72.  @AJ-lm5dl  The point is to end a pregnancy. If you can find a way to do that without killing the baby, we'll do that instead. Until then, oh well.
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  73. That doesn't actually matter. Give the feteus full personhood if you like. Abortion is still okay if the pregnant person wants one. No one has the right to live at the expense of someone else's bodily autonomy.
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  74.  Galleon  And you think proper punishment for that is to rob people of their bodily autonomy?
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  75.  Galleon  So you have arbitrary exceptions for your desire to strip people of their rights. Got it.
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  76.  Galleon  Bodily autonomy is a right, and the right to life does not override that.
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  77.  Galleon  No what?
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  78.  Galleon  No one has the right to live at the expense of someone else's bodily autonomy.
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  79.  Galleon  "street meat" Yup, you do hate women.
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  80.  Galleon  Why you speak of her like she's property though? Do you hate her bodily autonomy too?
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  81. The most common feeling people have after getting an abortion is relief.
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  82. Yes. Like performing an abortion on someone who doesn't want one is unethical. If the person does want one, for any reason, it's fine.
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  83. There are dozens!
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  84. No human has the right to live at the expense of someone else's bodily autonomy.
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  85.  @that_single_mama  Lol yes it is. What?!
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  86. They more celebrate making anti-choice people mad. It's to get people like you triggered.
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  87.  @DespicableBunny  How dare you. I'm not a liberal
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  88. Pregnancy isn't contagious.
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  89.  @cadenjohnson1137  Lol yeah because that's what soldiers do.
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  90.  @celinaeaton6125  There are married people who don't want children and non married people who do, so what in the world are you talking about?
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  91. To not be pregnant anymore. That's why they get abortions obviously.
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  92.  @ethanbowman4748  Damn, imagine thinking the right to bodily autonomy is a matter of convenience.
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  93.  @ethanbowman4748  The reason is she doesn't want to be pregnant.
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  94. Consenting to sex is not consenting to pregnanacy.
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  95.  @justapotato2434  Every time I see some braindead comment about how anti-choice freaks are trying to "save lives," it makes me want to get an abortion out of spite.
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  96. Based comment. Love to see it.
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  97. Yeah, the right to basic bodily autonomy is just a matter of convenience, right?
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  98. Exactly this.
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  99. Bro, what?
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  100. The human right to life doesn't override the right to bodily autonomy. Nothing psychopathic about it.
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