Youtube comments of Trevor Sutherland (@trevorsutherland5263).
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Even without all your detailed knowledge, a person keeping close tabs on the conflict via your site and others like yours could also see that Ukraine is "on the clock" , while Russia has all the time in the world. The Fall/Winter lull will just mean Russia will add more layers and more Lancets to their already formidable defenses, and now that they know Zaporizhzhia is the desired main Ukrainian attack axis, they'll just load that sector up even more over the winter. If Ukraine was going to use the Challenger, it has to be now because the Abrams isn't even planned to arrive until September meaning it is not available for this offensive. AFU cannot win. Period. They simply do not have enough of anything to outright bust through 30 miles of thousands of troops, missiles, mines, drones, and hundreds of tanks in Zaporizhzhia. However if they make a good show of it; defeating many times their number before they succumb, they'll probably get more NATO support over the winter. If the Challenger is publicly massacred like the Leopard 2 was in a new "Marder Square"? The war is over.
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You'll never in your life see it in a Western source, but since May, 2023, Russia has tactically been very, very operationally efficient. They bypass strongooints and flank them, probe for weak points, use terrain features expertly, and quickly exploit break throughs. Of course they take losses, their attacks sometimes repelled, make mistakes....but overall when you look at the number of battles and the scope of a 600 mile front, they have taught a master class in Modern Warfare on land.
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"Four abandoned villages, 5km", when the first (of six) defense lines is still 10km away. Ukraine about to be taught the same exact lesson the Wehrmacht learned precisely 80 years ago: having a better tank means little when the enemy outnumbers you, has had time to prepare, and knows you're coming. When they reach the real defenses, all those flat plains of shimmering grain give very little cover, and behind every copse will be a 100mm sniper. While artillery falls like rain, drones will dive out of the sky like angry hornets; driving those that flee right into an anti-tank mine. At night, Kamov Ka-52s hover unmolested, taking their time on thermal sights to blast anything that moves. TOS-1A thermobaric shells will suck the air out of Ukrainian lungs, before the detonation obliterates them, ending their suffering. If somehow, incredibly after all that a Ukrainian vehicle emerges unscathed, the T-90M, now being built at a rate of 100 per month, will blow it to bits. Not with 100,000 men could Ukraine do this...
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Other than the casualties Russia has taken (which range from 200,000-CIA to 50,000,000-Ukraine MoD), I struggle to see an objective "negative" over the past two years for Russia. She has more territory overall than she did on the day the war started, a vastly larger and more experienced army, her weapons production is stratospheric, she has captured an example of almost every Western weapon arrayed against her---giving her a decade worth of intel on her likely opponents in the future, her economy, while hurt in some areas by sanctions, has hardly slowed enough to matter, and she has new military allies she did not have before in Iran and North Korea. Her influence in the non-Western world has skyrocketed, giving her a plethora of options when it comes to global geopolitics (such as Belarus now being "NATO-proof" by having nuclear weapons on its territory). Outside the loss of human life, the SMO has been the best thing to happen to Russia since 1989.
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I bought a 2021 for my 16 yr old daughter, and tbh I was blown away by the quality of the Versa. I haven't had a small Japanese "beater" type car since the mid-1990s in college and I didn't expect much more than the same I felt when driving a 1995 Corolla or 2000 Lancer. The 20 year difference in comfort, refinement, and features kind of shocked me. The car was slow of course, but it got 44 mpg hwy and was butter smooth, quiet, handled well, heated seats, sound system better than that in $40K cars, ADAS tech, emergency braking, parking sensors, etc. I mean, unless you need to show off, what more does one need from a day-to-day vehicle? The Sentra is a little bigger, a bit better looking for just another $2K. I honestly would dump all my cars except my sports car and buy a Sentra for me and the wife and save $50K from buying all these "entry luxury" cars I've driven for 20 years. These small cars are that good.
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I saw a BMP with a big Russian flag driving into Avdiivka and was stunned. The vehicle shows more battle damage than 10 Challenger 2s, yet there it is rumbling into a newly liberated city in victory. It has probably been hit at least a dozen times, and each time the Russians tow it back about 10 km to some open air workshop. In the freezing temps, a bunch of Engineering Platoon guys, who have been fixing engines since they were 11, go to work. Three days later, the engine is fixed, the transmission replaced, the tracks repaired, and a soldier drives it back to its unit. A month later it rolls into Avdiivka victorious. THAT is why NATO will never in a thousand years, beat Russia on its own territory.
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Ukraine fans keep talking (and thinking) in terms of ground gained or lost, or who won the latest attack/counter-attack cycle when those concerns are not really relevant to what Russia's tactical objective is here. The whole point of defenses are to make the price of getting through them too high; so the enemy goes somewhere else, or commits a massive force (taking that massive force away from offensive operations elsewhere). That's it. So, the only way to understand who is "winning" the Battle of Robotyne is to know if the price Ukraine is paying for going forward is detrimental to their war plan, or expected and acceptable. Barring a complete rout by either side, like an encirclement of Ukraine or Russia scatters and runs to Azov, we have no idea. 10,000 troops and 200 vehicles may be the "price" AFU decided getting through this phase is worth. Maybe not; none of us knows as we are not present at Zelensky's war council meetings. Even if both sides are inflicting casualties on each other at the same rate, Russia wins no matter how far Ukraine gets. Ukraine's best NATO army is used up, while Russia easily replaces 40,000 casualties and their vehicles.
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In 1943, the Germans had two million soldiers poised to take Kursk, along with them were the 800,000-strong Italian 8th Army, and 225,000 Hungarian 1st Army. In total, THREE MILLION men intent on taking Kursk. When the smoke cleared, the Italians and Hungarians were decimated so severely, only 10 percent of the men they sent to Russia returned to their homeland. The Germans were mauled badly, but the bulk of their force survived to retreat that didn't stop until the Battle of Berlin.
People never listen to historians until its too late. They say "it will be different this time", and it never is..."
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Yes it failed, and yes it was a failure of Russian intelligence as they did not realize the degree to which Ukraine had been armed with NATO missiles. The initial attack had far too few infantry not because they forgot to send them, but because they didn't believe they were needed. Just drive a bunch of tanks to Kyiv, take the airport, arrest Zelensky, and the "special military operation" is over. However, they realized they were not going to achieve this due to significant NATO defensive weapons, pulled back across the river where their supply lines were secure, called up the reservists, and then proceeded to go to plan "B": War the Russian Way. Massive artillery turns everything in front of them into rubble, they then advance and take all the ground, lather rinse repeat. Slow, methodical, inexorable just like when they rolled back the Germans in 1944-45. Casualties don't matter because if you are killing them, they are killing you too. Victory.
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I grabbed a 2006 ES330 with only 125K miles last year. Its got some door dings, a scratch or two, and faded headlights, but the engine purrs like a kitty and zero leaks of any kind. I changed the oil, the trans fluid, had the steering rack and power steering pump replaced, new trans mount, new brake rotors/pads. Paid $5K for car, about $2500 repairs and maintenance. Just did 500 mile road trip, and she glides across the road---no rattles, no shaking, wheel solid and straight, AC blows cold, heated/cooled seats, booming sound. For $7500. We are entering an Age where the US consumer will become more like consumers in Cuba: keep the old cars running as long as humanly possible.
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This past month the battles have been fierce. Not a day goes by without lots of new combat video on all the various military blog sites. One thing stands out to me: BOTH sides are making fewer and fewer mistakes. The "Bradley Square" from June, with Ukrainians running into each other, hitting mines, getting blown up with ease; that doesn't happen anymore. They are still losing vehicles, but they are losing them while attacking, not because they are jumbled up running into each other. The Russians are experienced, that is obvious. Like the Swedish CV-90s that were knocked out and captured last week...the video clearly shows them attacking and firing, but the RPG round comes from the side, not the front. That means the Russian soldier WAITED until the CV-90 passed him before firing, knowing his round had better penetration chances to the side than the front. FPV drone video shows both sides often fly past a vehicle, then turn around to hit it from the rear as most vehicles have less armor in the rear and ex-Soviet ones in particular carry their fuel in the rear. If NATO sends in their troops, it will be a year of them being slaughtered before they gain the experience necessary to survive.
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Russia has defeated Leopard, AMX10, Bradley, Avenger, HIMARS, JDAM, Switchblade, Patriot, CAESAR, Gephard, Excalibur, M777, Stinger, Milan, Javelin, Storm Shadow, and Challenger was prohibited by UK so it's the same as it not being there. None of that can even be disputed.
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This makes the news, but it won't change anything. I saw a BMP driving into Avdiivka with a big Russian flag on it. The vehicle shows more battle damage than 10 Challenger 2s, yet there it is rumbling into a newly liberated city in victory. It has probably been hit at least a dozen times, and each time the Russians tow it back about 10 km to some open air workshop. In the freezing temps, a bunch of Engineering Platoon guys, who have been fixing engines since they were 11, go to work. Three days later, the engine is fixed, the transmission replaced, the tracks repaired, and a soldier drives it back to its unit. A month later it rolls into Avdiivka victorious. Sanctions cannot touch that; Russia not winning because of high-tech "wunderwaffe", they winning because the have more men, machines, shells, and rockets. That's it.
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When I first heard Joe Biden was not going to respond to the "Draft Framework" Putin sent in September, 2021, I recall breathing out loud: "Biden is crazy to think they can beat Russia in a land war on their own territory!!" I couldn't believe it----it was like all these wealthy, powerful men simply ignored 200 years of history, and here I am this nobody history nerd, and now 2+ years later, everything I said would happen, has happened. Everything I couldn't see the future, but I knew RU would not quit, they would just bring more men and machines, sit behind layers and absorb that counteroffensive that everyone knew would fail, all the while the factories in the Urals ran day and night, then they start their steamroller and it will not stop until the war is over. Just like they did before, and before that, and before that. I am almost 100% by 2100 some Western fool will try again to beat Russia; and fail again..."
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From what we've heard on the neutral military sites, AFU has 25K to 45K allocated to this operation (not all committed of course so they can rotate). The RU Kursk Army that was there for months (and was about to invade Ukraine via that same path), maybe 40K to 50K. So, right now both sides are about equally matched in that area, which is why neither can push the other very much, for very long: that "bulge" has remained about the same size for 3 days now. AFU is probing out to try to expand, but those "fingers" always eventually hit a wall. The rest of the border is not easy to cross, mines and dragon's teeth been there for years now, so militarily speaking, AFU can stay as long as they want to endure the FAB guided bombs. However, politically" , Putin is really angry now so it is unlikely RU will do the conservative thing and just surround them and degrade them from the air. They are on *RUSSIAN soil so he will probably send however many it takes to force them out asap..."
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All that proves is that it was foolish in the extreme for Biden and Stoltenberg to reject the Security Framework Russia sent them in September, 2021. Whatever "analysis" they did that resulted in them choosing to fight rather than talk, was flawed to the point of absurdity. Look at that list of stuff-----that's just from the US! Doesn't even include the Migs and Sukhois, Leopard 2s, CV-90s, Krabs, CAESARs, and the tens of billions in other hardware and ammo sent by everyone else. What is the result? The "Grand Spring Offensive" stopped cold, and Zaluzhny yesterday admitting they cannot push Russia out, all they can do is resist. If $200B and 400K casualties is only enough to "resist", then to "win" would cost what, $500B and 1 million casualties? Does that seem sane?
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I wish I could attend that show. That is a lot of 5th Gen hardware flying around, and in the case of the Su-57, it has actual combat operations experience, and so far, no one has even seen it when it attacks.
When I was a child in 1983, the US F-15 and F-16 had no real competition, even from France, UK, and Russia. This was years before the Typhoon, Rafale, Gripen,the Mig-29 was in pre-production, while the Su-27 was still a prototype. There was nothing on the earth that could even challenge the US Air Force.
Now, there are so many planes capable of defeating the F-22 and F-35, I cannot even count them all. A lot has changed in 40 years...
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Only a few ultra-nerd historians can see it now; for the average "Joe' it takes years for historical perspective to be apparent. This war will be among the worst foreign policy disasters of the United States. The repercussions will be immense and will last decades, possibly even a century. In less than two years, Russia has obtained intact examples of virtually every NATO armored vehicle currently extant. Every anti-tank, and anti-aircraft weapons currently extant. Every artillery system, whether projectile or rocket based, currently extant. Most American combat drones currently extant. Not only that, the electronic warfare suite of NATO weaponry from the cheapest drone, to the most expensive missile are now recorded digitally for the next generation of Russian engineers to study. Only the US Navy hasn't had her "skirt lifted" to the degree the Army and Air Force has in this war. Russian weaponry in 2053 will trace their ancestry in propulsion, navigation, targeting, and avionics to lessons learned from the Ukraine war. Biden will be regarded on the level of Benedict Arnold in terms of how much of America's knowledge and intelligence resources he gave away in this ill-fated adventure.
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What's this the 5th or 6th time in the past two weeks they've tried? All repulsed. As a longtime military historian, one of the things I most respect about RU is how they keep so many old weapons, for decades even, long beyond when you'd think they would be useful, and here they are in 2024 still punishing their opponents. NATO by contrast, so vastly wealthy for so long, throws away virtually anything over 30 years old. Earlier this year at Avdiivka, RU took anti-submarine rocket launchers from the 1960s off old warships, welded them to a T-55 chassis, and instant mobile artillery. Designed to sink subs, the rockets were huge but inaccurate since they were meant to be fired in a pattern in the open ocean. Didn't matter since area effect what exactly what was needed at Avdiivka. Now, at Kursk, since AFU is using mostly speed/mobility tactics with wheeled armored vehicles, RU has used the MT-12 Rapira 100mm gun from the late 1960s; originally an anti-tank weapon, it is no threat to Abrams/Leopard2 , but against these Strykers and Senators, it is a crushing smoothbore sniper. At crossroads or just outside town in a low ditch with trees all around and covered in leaves, it is invisible until it fires, and 100mm is way enough to one-shot any APC or armored car. Just makes an old history nerd proud....."
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Simple, TCO - Total Cost of Ownership. Though the upfront cost is much less than an American/European aircraft, over a 20 to 30 year timeframe the Chinese option will cost a country far more in downtime, headaches with spares, interoperability with allies, etc. than the lifetime cost of the American/European one. if a country can buy American/European, they would be foolish not to. For countries that cannot buy from America/Europe, Russia is a better option than China as well. Russian aircraft are far better built than Chinese equivalent, with better engines and overall durability and toughness. When Japan starts building fighters again, if they are willing to sell them to other countries, they will jump right up there with the American/European ones in terms of quality.
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I had a 2003 LC for a few years, but it was overkill for my needs and its horrible fuel economy (12 mpg) made it easy to trade it out. Yes, it was built like a tank, supremely comfortable and reliable, but those traits you can find in many other far more efficient vehicles. The old LCs were something of a "status symbol" in the US----the very definition of luxury is being wealthy enough to have an LC , but not need an LC. Nobody took them off road; the first time they tasted dirt was when they were 12 years old and shipped off to a 3rd world country. So, imho, this is a little confusing: it does not fit into the market space it occupied here for 25 years (G-Wagen, Defender V8, 'Slade/Denali, new QX80 have that well covered), however the "I don't go off road, but I want to look like I do" market is probably large enough to move a few. The problem is the powertrain is not robust enough to do hard work; the old one had the same engine as a Tundra so you technically could tow a battleship with it, this new one does not have that capability headroom. So, no "prestige" buyer, no "I do real work" buyer, you only left with the Jeep crowd.
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There are 48 countries in "Asia"; this guy's mistake was marrying a Chinese woman. That may have worked 50 or 60 years ago, but China is ascending to #1 this century and they know it. That means their women know they are just a decade or two from #1 status. In most countries the child takes the identity of the mother, so Chinese women know that no matter who father's their kids, the kids are "Chinese" (for the most part) and will enjoy the status of being #1. Just like for a few centuries if your kid was half Spanish, French, British, or American they enjoyed a significant amount of status boost in life. Get an Asian woman from Pacific Islands or Thailand or Singapore or Indonesia, Cambodia, Laos, etc. Heck even a Hawaiian woman (my choice in wife!) would be ten times better a wife than your garden variety White American/Black/Latina woman (with some exceptions---Caribbean, South American women may be worth a shot). Chinese? Hell no; you get what you deserve.
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If the Western media actually showed for once what really happened near Robotyne yesterday, what would happen? Let me describe it: In all the past week's videos, I hardly see any Ukrainian vehicle firing its gun right before it is hit by a Lancet, shell, or mine. To me, they are being hit before they even acquire a target, meaning it is very unlikely they even know where the Russians are. Yesterday the two Swedish CV-90s that were destroyed by RPG7s WERE firing their guns when hit, but the hits came from the side, not ahead where their gun barrel was aimed----they did not see the Russians who killed them. Also, the only Russian equipment I see being hit are from FPV drones, not from any tank or IFV in these assaults. Ukraine suffered THOUSANDS of casualties the past three days; most of whom never even saw a Russian to shoot at.
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People never listen to historians until its too late. They say "it will be different this time", and it almost never is...."
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"Four abandoned villages, 5km", when the first (of six) defense lines is still 10km away. Ukraine about to be taught the same exact lesson the Wehrmacht learned precisely 80 years ago: having a better tank means little when the enemy outnumbers you, has had time to prepare, and knows you're coming. When they reach the real defenses, all those flat plains of shimmering grain give very little cover, and behind every copse will be a 100mm sniper. While artillery falls like rain, drones will dive out of the sky like angry hornets; driving those that flee right into an anti-tank mine. At night, Kamov Ka-52s hover unmolested, taking their time on thermal sights to blast anything that moves. TOS-1A thermobaric shells will suck the air out of Ukrainian lungs, before the detonation obliterates them, ending their suffering. If somehow, incredibly after all that a Ukrainian vehicle emerges unscathed, the T-90M, now being built at a rate of 100 per month, will blow it to bits. Not with 100,000 men could Ukraine do this...
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Just have China build it and they could have it by 2028. Just give China the nuclear power unit to install and they'll build the rest; easy peasy. Russia had little need for carriers until now; they are at the early stages of a 100-year relationship with at least ten countries in Africa which will require her to massively upgrade her overseas logistics and force-projection capabilities. Flying a few troops and an S-300 to Burkina Faso on an Ilyushin is nice, but that is a pittance to what will be needed to build up Central African Republic (CAR), Mozambique, Mali, Libya, Sudan, and whoever else jumps in. RU will need carriers, amphibious assault ships, many frigates, replenishment ships, etc. A full "deep blue sea" navy for the next century. Good luck to Russia and China.
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This past month the battles have been fierce. Not a day goes by without lots of new combat video on all the various military blog sites. One thing stands out to me: BOTH sides are making fewer and fewer mistakes. The "Bradley Square" from June, with Ukrainians running into each other, hitting mines, getting blown up with ease; that doesn't happen anymore. They are still losing vehicles, but they are losing them while attacking, not because they are jumbled up running into each other. The Russians are experienced, that is obvious. Like the Swedish CV-90s that were knocked out and captured last week...the video clearly shows them attacking and firing, but the RPG round comes from the side, not the front. That means the Russian soldier WAITED until the CV-90 passed him before firing, knowing his round had better penetration chances to the side than the front. FPV drone video shows both sides often fly past a vehicle, then turn around to hit it from the rear as most vehicles have less armor in the rear and ex-Soviet ones in particular carry their fuel in the rear. If NATO sends in their troops, it will be a year of them being slaughtered before they gain the experience necessary to survive.
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From what we've heard on the neutral military sites, AFU has 25K to 45K allocated to this operation (not all committed of course so they can rotate). The RU Kursk Army that was there for months (and was about to invade Ukraine via that same path), maybe 40K to 50K. So, right now both sides are about equally matched in that area, which is why neither can push the other very much, for very long: that "bulge" has remained about the same size for 3 days now. AFU is probing out to try to expand, but those "fingers" always eventually hit a wall. The rest of the border is not easy to cross, mines and dragon's teeth been there for years now, so militarily speaking, AFU can stay as long as they want to endure the FAB guided bombs. However, politically" , Putin is really angry now so it is unlikely RU will do the conservative thing and just surround them and degrade them from the air. They are on *RUSSIAN soil so he will probably send however many it takes to force them out asap..."
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As a child in the 80s and 90s I read all the books, watched all the documentaries, went to all the movies that fantasized about US vs. Russia on land, sea and air. Now, as a man with three children all under age 20, I am thankful that's all it ever was----fantasizing. Hopefully the next 20 years will be the same about fantasizing about US vs. China. So, let's play! China's equipment has very rarely been tested in modern era and the few times it has over the past decade hasn't been very impressive. Just like their cars, motorcycles, and most everything they make, they cut too many corners to save a buck. Now, if China and Russia have successive leaders that continue what Putin and Xi started, and meld Russia's tough, real-world equipment mastery with China's chip fab and manufacturing dominance, together they could easily be strong enough in 20 years to keep the United States out of their business for the next century...."
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Ukraine trading lives for land, Russia trading land for time. 2023 campaign season is about over. Winter is to rest, rotate, and train up new Legions for Spring 2024. Putin this week authorized 147,000 drafted between now an Spring, plus the 280,000 Medveyev said they recruited this year with bonuses, debt forgiveness, citizenship, etc. So thats 427,000 more ready by next year this time. AFU is sending 71 yr old men to NATO training, demanding countries send back male refugees, now conscripting women. Russia hasn't even had to raise its draft eligibility age max from its current age 27. Ukraine can win battles, but they will never win the war.
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Notice how the Democrat neocon argument has shifted from "preserve democracy" two years ago to "it's not really money we are giving away"?? LMAO. The new narrative is: This money doesn't actually go to Ukraine, it goes to Lockheed Martin and Northrop Grumman, who makes and ships new weapons to our military, who then puts the new stuff in the space made the day before when they shipped their old, expired weapons to Ukraine". So, essentially "support for Ukraine" is now an opportunistic weapons upgrade program for the US Military and the MIC. The old stuff gets blown to bits (or added to the trophies in Patriot Park near Moscow) by Russia, along with the Ukrainians inside, while the US Army sheds junk for shiny new stuff. All on taxpayer dime. Oh, and remember just two weeks ago, the House passed our normal massive $886B defense budget for 2024. So, our Military gets the "Ukraine Aid bonus" AND the usual $800B- $900B they get every year. Y'all seeing the Big Picture now?? Hahaha! 😂😂😂
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In 1943, the Germans had two million soldiers poised to take Kursk, along with them were the 800,000-strong Italian 8th Army, and 225,000-strong Hungarian 1st Army. In total, THREE MILLION men intent on taking Kursk. When the smoke cleared, the Italians and Hungarians were decimated so severely, only 10 percent of the men they sent to Russia returned to their homelands. The Germans were mauled badly, but the bulk of their force survived to make a retreat that didn't stop until the Battle of Berlin.
People never listen to historians until its too late. They say "it will be different this time", and it almost never is...."
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Those of us who have bought M4s, AMG, RS3, Camaro, Mustang, Challenger, Corvette all our lives look at these horrid little toasters and frown in disgust. However, the reality is that it is cost-effective, safe and reliable that sells in ALL countries by the metric ton. There is no amount of "buy local, support local" that can overcome the power of the individual wallet; Wal Mart is proof of that. Germany's auto industry is doomed; take care however, as you are not alone, the United States' auto industry will join yours in the dustbin of history...
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Russia is fighting the weapons of thirty (30!) plus different countries. Imagine the absolute treasure trove of operational, signal, and physical intelligence they are gathering! It isn't just the old cast-off NATO stuff they are fighting; it is very modern drones, JDAMs, Panzerfaust 3's, CAESAR artillery, etc. They are learning all the operational parameters, frequency ranges, capturing many wrecked or intact examples to study, etc. When this war is over Russia will have the world's greatest single source of combat intelligence for decades to come; they'll integrate this knowledge into their designs, sell it to China, Iran, and NK who will improve their weapons. The legacy of this stupid war will still be felt in 2073...
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It isn't the "gun" itself. It is the latent Scotch-Irish in us just making itself known for the 784th time. The Scotch-Irish, among the most belligerent, quick-to-offend, quick-to-anger cultures in human history, populated the Southern US via Jamestown. These closely related peoples were from the borderlands of northern England, southern Scotland, and the north of Ireland. They came in huge numbers and once in America, they formed a more-or-less cohesive unit, if that can be said of a people who nurtured a proud and sometimes argumentative spirit, and a disdain for authority. This is all confirmed history and none of it is in dispute. In America, they eventually dropped their swords and daggers and began using the gun; the result was the same: someone offended, blood spilled, and another planning revenge. This culture was imbued into the Slaves as it was the Scotch-Irish who were the most in contact with newly arrived Africans. The culture remains strong in the US population today among the descendants of these people as well as taking root in many subsequently arrived peoples. It is in us----ALL of us.
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In 1943, the Germans had two million soldiers poised to take Kursk, along with them were the 800,000-strong Italian 8th Army, and 225,000-strong Hungarian 1st Army. In total, THREE MILLION men intent on taking Kursk. When the smoke cleared, the Italians and Hungarians were decimated so severely, only 10 percent of the men they sent to Russia returned to their homelands. The Germans were mauled badly, but the bulk of their force survived to make a retreat that didn't stop until the Battle of Berlin.
People never listen to historians until its too late. They say "it will be different this time", and it almost never is...."
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The irony of his shirt saying "Freedom", when it is freedom from NATO they need in order to survive. They've taken grievous losses for "Four abandoned villages, and 5km", when the first (of six) defense lines is still 10km away. Ukraine is about to be taught the same exact lesson the Wehrmacht learned precisely 80 years ago: having a better tank means little when the enemy outnumbers you, has had time to prepare, and knows you're coming. When they reach the real defenses, all those flat plains of shimmering grain give very little cover, and behind every copse will be a 100mm sniper. While artillery falls like rain, drones will dive out of the sky like angry hornets; driving those that flee right into an anti-tank mine. At night, Kamov Ka-52s hover unmolested, taking their time on thermal sights to blast anything that moves. TOS-1A thermobaric shells will suck the air out of Ukrainian lungs, before the detonation obliterates them, ending their suffering. If somehow, incredibly after all that a Ukrainian vehicle emerges unscathed, the T-90M, now being built at a rate of 100 per month, will blow it to bits. Not with 100,000 men could Ukraine do this...
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The Ukrainian northern defense line near Kupiansk collapsed yesterday, by now you've heard that Kupiansk and dozens of smaller towns in the area under mandatory evacuation order. It isn't just to limit civilian casualties; it is also because Ukraine does not trust its citizens so close to the Russian border. If they are all gone, none of them can spy for the tsunami of men and steel that are now bearing down on the entire Front. 100,000+ Russians and over 900 tanks, massing there for almost a month (and don't even cry about 'lies"; UK and Ukraine have both estimated that 100K number). Today, Karkhiv is now under evacuation order as well, as there is no guarantee the brigades Ukraine is rushing to the area can stop the steamroller at Kupiansk. Oh yeah, today Russia totally smashed the Ukrainian salient north of Bakhmut; inflicting hundreds of casualties while destroying many armored vehicles. Su-34s now range across both Fronts with FAB-500 GLONASS-guided bombs, as Ukraine's AA capability, worn down by months of drone attacks, is now incapable of stopping them. Cry all you want. Tomorrow you'll wake up and realize its all true. Just as at Kursk in 1943, once the Russian steamroller starts, nothing can stop it.
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In November, when US SecDef Austin visited Kyiv, they told him they need "$350B to $400B....including 17 million (yes, MILLION) artillery shells" to "return to the 1991 borders". Austin didn't flat out say "no", but he did remind Zelensky that "there are not 17 million shells in existence to collect" and instructed them to build heavy defense lines, just like the "Surovikin Line" around Kharkiv, Odessa, and north of Kyiv. This is exactly what Ukraine is now doing all along their northern border between Kyiv and Kharkiv. I'm no General, but imho, Russia will do what they've been doing for the past few months, but increase the pace. They've openly stated that for them, the war must be finished up by 2025 and that is Shoigu's timetable. I do not believe Ukraine will get $400B, even if Biden wins in November. Therefore, there will simply be more of the same over the next 12 months, as Russia slowly crushes AFU between its air assault on their capacity to fight, and their steamroller flattening everything in front of them on the ground.
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Due to several separate, but inter-related factors, I believe US society has reached an inflection point between order and chaos. Over the past decade, we have allowed several signals to be sent to all corners of the population, that the law is no longer enforced; or only weakly and arbitrarily enforced. Since around 2010, countless instances of police brutality (recorded on video so the misconduct is clear) reaching its zenith with George Floyd with protests AND riots and very little punishment. Then the Trump Administration in 2016 with his complete disdain for virtually any law, and meaningless "punishment" like impeachment. Then of course Jan. 6th, which tbh the minions HAVE gotten severe punishment, but the leaders little to none. Then, imho the most recent one that lit the tinderbox: California with the de-criminalization wave of policy and DA discretion that basically signals that stealing is now legal. If you notice, many of these "jump out the car" and steal events all over the country, the perps DISPLAY NO WEAPON. They simply grab what they want, right out of victims' hands in many cases, and walk away. There is NO FEAR of being caught, because we've taught the country that whether you rob a store, or break into the US Capitol, what you are doing is not a crime.
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Russia is fighting the weapons of thirty (30!) plus different countries. Imagine the absolute treasure trove of operational, signal, and physical intelligence they are gathering! It isn't just the old cast-off NATO stuff they are fighting; it is very modern drones, JDAMs, Panzerfaust 3's, CAESAR artillery, etc. They are learning all the operational parameters, frequency ranges, capturing many wrecked or intact examples to study, etc. When this war is over Russia will have the world's greatest single source of combat intelligence for decades to come; they'll integrate this knowledge into their designs, sell it to China, Iran, and NK who will improve their weapons. The legacy of this stupid war will still be felt in 2073...
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I really feel badly for Ukraine. They are about to embark on a pitched battle offensive in the Zaporizhizhia region (based on estimates of 40K AFU troops massing there), undoubtedly this is where all the Leopards, AMX-10s, and Bradley's are as well. However, the Russians have at least 100K in that region alone with 200K more all along the Separatist Front. Plus at least 200 T-90s and at least that many T-80BV tanks, plus a massive advantage in artillery and air power. All waiting for Ukraine; and Ukraine has to try-----they can't have spent the last year begging for all this equipment and not bother to use it. Germany has almost bankrupted itself, and Biden may not even be around in 18 months-----they have to roll the dice soon. Russia will be waiting for them. When the smoke clears, Ukraine will have inflicted a lot of losses on Russia, but will have lost all 40K of their best troops and there will be no more Leopards, AMXs, and Bradleys. That's it. The war is over and Russia wins.
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My first BMW was a 1991 525i that I bought in 1996 with 60K miles. I was not a "gearhead" at the time but I knew enough to get the oil changed every 5K miles. The only thing I ever replaced on that car were the front shocks when they wore out. I sold it to a friend in 2001 with 120K miles on it; original water pump, AC compressor, alternator, etc. I never changed the trans fluid, brake fluid, power steering fluid, not even the brake rotors. It never leaked, rattled, made funny sounds, spewed blue smoke, shifted hard or shuddered. An absolute TANK of a car. Once BMW stopped making them like that, I stopped buying them.
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Biden should just send the alien technology we have been hiding for 80 years. Surely that will be able to defeat the Russians where the Leopard, AMX10, Bradley, Avenger, HIMARS, JDAM, Switchblade, Patriot, CAESAR, Gephard, Excalibur, M777, Stinger, Milan, Javelin, and Storm Shadow have not??
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When it was first announced, the Russian translation of Sunak's words led many Russians to believe that "security agreement" meant UK would enter Ukraine and fight alongside AFU. I know, I know....to us it sounds like madness, but Russians can only read what the interpreted words seemed to indicate. That's why Medveyev quickly clarified that Russia would consider that an "act of war"; it was only after the text was posted online in UK and Ukraine that the correct meaning was fully understood. THAT's how close ya'll Brits just came to being at war with Russia!! 40 operational Challengers vs. 4000 T-72B3s, T-80BVMs, T-90Ms, Lancets, Kinzhals, Iskanders, 670,000 battle hardended veterans, etc. 😂😂😂
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Russia has defeated Leopard, AMX10, Bradley, Avenger, HIMARS, JDAM, Switchblade, Patriot, CAESAR, Gephard, Excalibur, M777, Stinger, Milan, Javelin, Storm Shadow, and Challenger was prohibited by UK so it's the same as it not being there. None of that can even be disputed. Russia defeated two of the largest armies in history in Napoleon and Hitler; little Ukraine never had a chance.
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From what we've heard on the neutral military sites, AFU has 25K to 45K allocated to this operation (not all committed of course so they can rotate). The RU Kursk Army that was there for months (and was about to invade Ukraine via that same path), maybe 40K to 50K. So, right now both sides are about equally matched in that area, which is why neither can push the other very much, for very long: that "bulge" has remained about the same size for 3 days now. AFU is probing out to try to expand, but those "fingers" always eventually hit a wall. The rest of the border is not easy to cross, mines and dragon's teeth been there for years now, so militarily speaking, AFU can stay as long as they want to endure the FAB guided bombs. However, politically" , Putin is really angry now so it is unlikely RU will do the conservative thing and just surround them and degrade them from the air. They are on *RUSSIAN soil so he will probably send however many it takes to force them out asap..."
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Very good points all. I bought my first car (Toyota Supra) in 1988, and I've had Mazda, Mitsu, Honda, BMW, Audi, Ford, Buick, Jaguar, and currently 2017 Alfa Romeo. Only one engine failure (brand new 2006 Honda---that I contributed to by adding aftermarket intake then drove through heavy rain, engine ingested water). Only one transmission failure (2002 Acura, 1 yr old and not my fault!). That's it. Everything else was wear out items like fans, alternators, water pumps, etc. I stayed away from Dodge all through 90s and 00s, but I would consider one now. My cars have been good to me but I'll say that imho, a 2022 will not physically hold up as well until 2032, as a 2012 has held up until today. A 2022 will give you 200K miles of driving just fine over a 5/6 year period, but by year 10, it will have deteriorated far more than a car built a decade ago.
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I am 49 and happily married for 9 years. I came of age 80s, college 90s, typical Gen X in all ways. My first marriage lasted 7 years and I divorced her as she turned out to be a real ball-breaker type feminist. HOWEVER, my first wife is ONE-HUNDRED TIMES more of a "lady" than every single one of these younger women arrayed here. In 1993, NONE----and I do mean NONE, of the women I knew had even the slightest desire to be a single mother. The very idea was abhorrent to them. These women in this video who are actually proud of the fact they "weren't on Tinder, weren't DM'ing, etc." while FUKKING pregnant are like beings from another Universe to me. In the 90s, to see a pregnant woman in a bar or club was like seeing one of Satan's minions on the Mortal Plane----EVERYONE recoiled in horror and disgust at such a spectacle. These women expect to be treated the exact same as women who have no children, BY MEN WHO ARE CHILDLESS! If they at least acknowledged they have nothing to offer a childless man, I'd have bit more respect for them, but even the woman in her 40s said "you can't just do one thing, you have to do more for your family". WTF?? It isn't HIS family!! All the "requirements" they have now that they are single moms, are the same requirements they SHOULD HAVE HAD before (but did not) and they wouldn't have been in this position! I could not date a 30-something today; it would be like dating an alien from another planet.
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In the last week, Russia has bombed Ukraine with literally HUNDREDS of drones and missiles of every type. Yet, the word "PATRIOT" is unseen in any article, anywhere, at any time over the past month. Why? Because Russia prioritized the destruction of the Patriots as soon as they were deployed, and since Ukraine does not manufacture it, but has to wait on someone to give it to them, once they are destroyed it is weeks or months (or never) before they get another. Last week, Ukrained fired TWELVE Storm Shadows at two bridges. Why so many? Because Pantsir-S1 has had 3 months to study the weapon and now can reliably shoot most of them down---the only way to ensure a hit is to try to overwhelm it with numbers. Taurus/ATACMS all the same: initially some will get through and do some damage, but Russia will adapt and a month later there will still be 100,000 soldiers and 900 tanks bearing down on Kharkiv. This is a war NATO CANNOT win. Negotiate.
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I try to be aloof, because who doesn't like being proven right after 26 months?? Yet, as father of 7 age 14 - 29, I look at these young faces and shattered bodies and I start to get angry. What mad fool in the Biden Administration ever thought Russia could be defeated in a land war on its own territory?? Do they not have historians in Washington, D.C.?? 80 years ago, THREE MILLION men (the best trained army at the time, with the best air force at the time) went into Russia to destroy it; and they FAILED! Yet, in late 2021, on a conference call of Biden and NATO brass, somehow they convinced themselves Ukraine could do what Napoleon and Hitler could not, with 30 year old weapons and no air force.
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BBC could do an article on the nature and origin of Ukrainian Nationalism. That would help immensely for most Westerners to understand this war. Ukrainian Nationalists believe they are "different" from Russians; in spite of 1500 years of evidence to the contrary. Russian and Ukrainian Prince's rode the same road to deliver their tributes to their Mongol rulers. This strain of nationalism is why they resisted collectivization, and Stalin punished them. Its why the Wehrmacht found little resistance when marching through Ukraine in 1941, as these very same nationalists in the West of the country hoped to carve out their own State (after Russia was defeated). It is the same nationalism why at this very moment, Azov and many of the "core" AFU brigades use all manner of former Wehrmacht imagery, on their uniforms, standards, vehicles. Reichsadlers, totenkopfs, balkenkreuz, twin lightning bolts ALL can be seen in any number of CNN front line interviews over the past two years. At one point Germany had to demand AFU erase the balkenkreuz they were hastily writing on their Leopard 2s and Marders. None of this is even in dispute. Zelensky is at the head of this movement and his alliance with like-minded diplomats in the US and UK (who are more anti-Russia, than Ukrainian nationalist), is the double-handed axe aimed right at Russia's heart. That is the truth....the hard truth.
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It is now 3pm CST where I am and the afternoon updates from the three main mil bloggers I follow start trickling in around now. Sometimes the days battle updates can vary a bit, but when they all definitively say the same thing, taken together that is Gospel. BBC/SKY said Russia sent VDV (Airborne) to Robotyne yesterday. If that is true that means THIS next line is the one where they mean to HOLD, because VDV are Paratroopers---the "Elite". This can only mean AFU is now in the kill box and they are not going to be "allowed" to go deeper. The only way forward for Ukraine is to smash through. Meaning drive up to the dragon's teeth and push them aside or blow them out of the way, bring up equipment to cross the anti-tank ditch, then via these crossings, continue forward. All under the fire of 100 guns, 1000 drones, mines, FAB-500s, attack helicopters, TOS-1A, Uragan, etc. Ummm, yeah.... If Ukraine tries to just brute force their way, the slaughter we will see in the next few days will be on the scale of Iwo Jima or Okinawa.
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Every single one of these F-16s is well past its airframe expected lifespan; ALL were to be retired in a few months----not years. They are A/B models built in the 80s, some of which were upgraded to C level equivalent. They are not stealth, and do not possess any weapon system, bomb, rocket, or missile that outranges S-300 detection range of 300 km, let alone that of S-400 or S-500 (which can shoot down spacecraft!!). If one somehow survived to engage in air combat, every Su-27, 30, 35 and Mig-35 outranges it and with beyond-visual-range missile do not even have to see an F-16 to obliterate it. It would be better for Ukraine to line up their pilots and shoot them than send them up in an F-16, as their survival chances of a bullet to the head would be higher...
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The Ukrainian people don't really matter in all this; Ukraine is just where the two Big Dogs meet to settle their score. US Biden Administration is filled with Left Wing "globalists" like Blinken---Ivy League types who think their brains are better than everyone else's. It was they who lured Zelensky with their free "wunderwaffe" offer; telling him "don't share with Putin, we'll give you the weapons to beat Russia". Why? So America could one day put those Aegis Ashore missiles currently in Romania and Poland, 500 miles closer to Moscow, tightening the noose that will eventually result in Russia being America's slaves. Who here believes Romania, Bulgaria, Poland, Lithuania, etc. have a choice when the US "asks" them for a favor?? They have NONE; they are the willing lapdogs of whomever is in the White House; good little pups whose master changes every four years. Russia under Putin is one of the few countries on Earth (Iran, NK, China are the others) that say "fucc you America. We don't want to swim in your pool, no matter how big it is. We know that if we do that, YOU control whether we can swim or not. We will build and maintain our OWN pool." That makes America, the bully mad, very mad.
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Even now after three years of the myth of "shovels", "running out of missiles", etc. the West when faced with the unknown respond with false bravado.
These aren't conscripts dragged out of nightclubs and given three weeks "training" like Ukraine uses. These are fully trained Special Forces ; hard-core dudes like Rangers, Spetznaz, Fallschirmjaeger, etc. If you've ever met a SOF type; you know they are NOT like normal people. Yes, these NK troops have zero combat experience, but they are trained in all the basics of infantry combat, can likely drive most any military vehicle, can use a wide array of weaponry (almost certainly most Russian infantry weapons), and most important want to be there . Special Forces soldiers from any army on earth, long to prove themselves in combat and likely volunteered for this extremely high-profile mission. What true warrior would not jump at the chance to write his country's name into the annals of martial glory for the first time in over 70 years?? That's why NATO is reacting so strongly to a few thousand troops (when over a million are engaged): After a short learning curve, these guys will tear through AFU conscripts and Territorial Defense as if they were not even there...
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The Ukrainian northern defense line near Kupiansk collapsed yesterday, by now you've heard that Kupiansk and dozens of smaller towns in the area under mandatory evacuation order. It isn't just to limit civilian casualties; it is also because Ukraine does not trust its citizens so close to the Russian border. If they are all gone, none of them can spy for the tsunami of men and steel that are now bearing down on the entire Front. 100,000+ Russians and over 900 tanks, massing there for almost a month (and don't even cry about 'lies"; UK and Ukraine have both estimated that 100K number). Today, Karkhiv is now under evacuation order as well, as there is no guarantee the brigades Ukraine is rushing to the area can stop the steamroller at Kupiansk. Oh yeah, today Russia totally smashed the Ukrainian salient north of Bakhmut; inflicting hundreds of casualties while destroying many armored vehicles. Su-34s now range across both Fronts with FAB-500 GLONASS-guided bombs, as Ukraine's AA capability, worn down by months of drone attacks, is now incapable of stopping them. Cry all you want. Tomorrow you'll wake up and realize its all true. Just as at Kursk in 1943, once the Russian steamroller starts, nothing can stop it.
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Russia has defeated Leopard, AMX10, Bradley, Avenger, HIMARS, JDAM, Switchblade, Patriot, CAESAR, Gephard, Excalibur, M777, Stinger, Milan, Javelin, Storm Shadow, and Challenger was prohibited by UK so it's the same as it not being there. None of that can even be disputed. Yet, a lot of CNN "consumers" on here still believe Ukraine is just an F-16 (or 1000) away from being able to win. Russia defeated two of the largest armies in history in Napoleon and Hitler; what chance did little Ukraine ever have?
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Russia will crush Ukraine, as any student of history knew was inevitable from the start. What is also inevitable is that no American who had a hand in their destruction will pay even the faintest price. Biden, Austin, Blinken, and Nuland will go on to retirement, or on to cushier roles in the private sector. While 100,000 Ukrainian graves sprout new shoots, 400,000 live without a limb, or an eye, or an intact mind, and millions more go on in a Rump State Ukraine denuded of 80% of her wealth-producing land. A weak and shattered remnant awaiting only to be put out of its misery by Poland or Romania.
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Every single one of these F-16s is well past its airframe expected lifespan; ALL were to be retired in a few months----not years. They are A/B models built in the 80s, some of which were upgraded to C level equivalent. They are not stealth, and do not possess any weapon system, bomb, rocket, or missile that outranges S-300 detection range of 300 km, let alone that of S-400 or S-500 (which can shoot down spacecraft!!). If one somehow survived to engage in air combat, every Su-27, 30, 35 and Mig-35 outranges it and with beyond-visual-range missile do not even have to see an F-16 to obliterate it. It would be better for Ukraine to line up their pilots and shoot them than send them up in an F-16, as their survival chances of a bullet to the head would be higher...
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They'll never do it, but LR should come out with a "Street" or "Lite" (or some other trendy sounding name) sub-brand where all that off-road hardware is replaced with a coil spring and a shock absorber only. Much of the reason LRs/RRs in the US become maintenance nightmares in a few years is massively expensive off-road hardware is never used at all. The engines and (ZF) transmissions are virtually never the problem (look at Hyundai with millions of burned up/recalled engines over the past five years----never happens with a JLR product). The problem is the air springs, valves, articulation joints, the electronic control modules and cameras, etc. all that stuff underneath every LR/RR sits there unused for years in the United States. Like any mechanical system, much of it is self-lubricating and if never used, parts get brittle, or seize, or otherwise decay far sooner than they would if they were used regularly. In America, people buy LR/RR because they look great, perform great, and are very luxurious; LR/RR throws in the off-road hardware for no benefit here as no one uses it. Just take it out. Make an LR-America sub-brand or something where the vehicle is purely the luxurious Mall-crawler it is used as here and much of their reliability problems would go away. I'd love to buy one of these, but I never go off-road so what is the point?
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Mil bloggers say the Sukhoi S-70 Okhotnik ("Hunter"), which was spotted over Ukraine about two months ago, is being rushed to go operational this Fall to support a three-pronged "End the War" offensive in late '23, early '24. This drone, which looks like a copy of the Northrop X-47B, is a stealth flying wing, using tech Iran gave to Russia from the Global Hawk it shot down in 2019. Hypersonic and supersonic missiles, for all their destructive power, are expensive and the enemy always knows they are coming. A drone stealth bomber, with satellite guided bombs that hit without warning, would be able to neutralize key targets like airports, rail junctions, fuel storage, power stations, cargo ships in port, etc. The Global Hawk is a $200M technological tour de force of DARPA-level sensors, cameras, and surveillance equipment. Even if Iran and Russia only reached 50% of its capability it would make the S-70 among the deadliest modern weapon systems on Earth. With just ten of these, Russia could decimate all high level ability to resist in a given area, ahead of each 100,000 man "pincer".
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If the malfunctioning HVAC was reflected in how much he paid for the car, and everything else is otherwise in good shape; I wouldn't consider this the End of the World. Let's say the car would cost $9K in good shape, no major issues. With faulty HVAC maybe you offer $7500 and seller takes it. Now, you have to drop $3K to get it all sorted so you are really "out" $1500 over the car's "good shape" value. However, you now have a Rav4 that is better than a "good shape" 18 year old one, and depending on the mileage, you may get another 125,000 miles out of it with little more than gas and wear out items. I'd pay the money to get it done right, then drive the ** out of that thing for the next 100,000 miles and give it to my HS kid and let him put another 100,000 miles on it. 🙂
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Anyone surprised Texas just voted to put the Ten Commandments back in the public schools?? This California liberal experiment from the 1960s: "no rules, just do whatever you want", has led the United States to become quite literally Hell on The Earth. No intact families, no parental guidance, no adults in the room, no selfless leaders, no role models, drugs everywhere, crime everywhere, every young man angry, every young woman on OnlyFans, no honor, no decency; an entire nation a moonscape of hopelessness and rage.
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...not really. When Ukraine hides its NATO weapons inside a church, kindergarten, hospital, movie theater, playground, apartment complex, shopping center, library, school, farmhouse, barn, silo, entire villages, they become military targets. There was nothing military on this bridge. Just a family...
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Ukraine offensive failed, so leading up to the NATO Summit they wanted to show something positive. So all the little drones knocking out windows in Moscow, all the Storm Shadow strikes at Kerch, the cute little speedboat drones, etc. All designed to say "hey we are worth supporting!" It kind of worked, Biden sped up the Abrams, Germany pledged 100 refurbished 1960's era Leopards, another $200M sailed through Congress, etc. Great. Why Ukraine officers sending 12 Storm Shadows at one bridge, while you have vehicles and infantry taking the exact same three roads day in/day out north of Robotyne for the past TWO months?? Russian artillery can shoot them with their eyes closed they been firing on the same coordinates so long. The Germans were right; Ukraine don't know that the eff they are doing. Once the offensive push failed, they've just been treading water filling up their casualty lists.
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Back in September, after the Putin-Kim summit, rumors were that along with the millions of rockets and shells, Russia was going to get KN-25 Heavy MLRS systems from NK. No one knew if that was confirmed or how many, and I have not heard a peep about them since. We know the rockets and shells are coming, but even now no one has even mentioned anything bigger from NK. Until today. The KN-25 MLRS fires missiles so large, the US calls them "ballistic" (just as Kirby does here several times), even though it is basically just a HIMARS on steroids. These are so new (2019 first reports of them) and never been used anywhere before so the specs are just guesses: about 400Km range, maybe sat-nav guidance, about 90m accuracy, but they are so large (600mm!), a salvo of them from its quad-tube launcher, means FOUR 6,600 lb monster rockets all landing within about a football field at Mach 3. If that is what Russia has, no wonder the US is making an announcement about it. That is a tactical city wipeout weapon.
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20 to 30 % losses taking its toll; NATO doctrine say withdraw a unit after 10% losses. Russia has defeated Leopard, AMX10, Bradley, Avenger, HIMARS, JDAM, Switchblade, Patriot, CAESAR, Gephard, Excalibur, M777, Stinger, Milan, Javelin, Storm Shadow, and Challenger was prohibited by UK so it's the same as it not being there. None of that can even be disputed. F-16 won't change anything either. If they fly too close they get dropped, if they land in Ukraine they get bombed. Putin has already said if a single F-16 attacks Russia and goes back to Poland,Romania,Bulgaria etc. Russia will "Alpha Strike" every NATO airbase that could operate an F-16.....and he can do it.
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The Ukrainian northern defense line near Kupiansk collapsed yesterday, by now you've heard that Kupiansk and dozens of smaller towns in the area under mandatory evacuation order. It isn't just to limit civilian casualties; it is also because Ukraine does not trust its citizens so close to the Russian border. If they are all gone, none of them can spy for the tsunami of men and steel that are now bearing down on the entire Front. 100,000+ Russians and over 900 tanks, massing there for almost a month (and don't even cry about 'lies"; UK and Ukraine have both estimated that 100K number). Today, Karkhiv is now under evacuation order as well, as there is no guarantee the brigades Ukraine is rushing to the area can stop the steamroller at Kupiansk. Oh yeah, today Russia totally smashed the Ukrainian salient north of Bakhmut; inflicting hundreds of casualties while destroying many armored vehicles. Su-34s now range across both Fronts with FAB-500 GLONASS-guided bombs, as Ukraine's AA capability, worn down by months of drone attacks, is now incapable of stopping them. Cry all you want. Tomorrow you'll wake up and realize its all true. Just as at Kursk in 1943, once the Russian steamroller starts, nothing can stop it.
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As a longtime military historian, one of the things I most respect about RU is how they keep so many old weapons, for decades even, long beyond when you'd think they would be useful, and here they are in 2024 still punishing their opponents. NATO by contrast, so vastly wealthy for so long, throws away virtually anything over 30 years old. Earlier this year at Avdiivka, RU took anti-submarine rocket launchers from the 1960s off old warships, welded them to a T-55 chassis, and instant mobile artillery. Designed to sink subs, the rockets were huge but inaccurate since they were meant to be fired in a pattern in the open ocean. Didn't matter since area effect what exactly what was needed at Avdiivka. Now, at Kursk, since AFU is using mostly speed/mobility tactics with wheeled armored vehicles, RU has used the MT-12 Rapira 100mm gun from the late 1960s; originally an anti-tank weapon, it is no threat to Abrams/Leopard2 , but against these Strykers and Senators, it is a crushing smoothbore sniper. At crossroads or just outside town in a low ditch with trees all around and covered in leaves, it is invisible until it fires, and 100mm is way enough to one-shot any APC or armored car. Just makes an old history nerd proud....."
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"Murder" is a legal term, and no matter how you spin it, even if Putin came here and submit himself to a US criminal court, you can't call it "murder" without being sued. Stop it, MSNBC. We know you are partisan; but when you break OUR OWN rules to give "weight" to a propaganda point, not only does it not work, it actually makes it worse. We all know you want the money for Ukraine, wild hyperbole and inflated "outrage" doesn't work. Look what happened in NYC today, and tell us why we should send $60B to Ukraine, $20B to Israel, and $15B to Taiwan (who aren't even at war!). Imagine what $15B for OUR BORDER and to prevent our own citizen police officers from being attacked by our newly-arrived "friends" could do!!!
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If Ukraine was taking Bakhmut-sized cities, hurling Russians back in headlong retreat, shooting down 100 Su-30 fighters, our screens filled every night with joyous people "liberated" throwing flowers at AFU riding Challenger 2s, taking 10s of thousands of poorly-fed conscripts prisoner, etc. after the $113B we've spent, one could justify sending more money. Instead, Ukraine is taking farms, "liberating" ghosts, Russia has shot down more Su-30s than AFU has, and the Challenger 2/Leopard 2 have not destroyed even a single solitary Russian armored vehicle of any type. If $113B gets us failure on that level, what is $300M more gonna do?? What is TEN BILLION more gonna do?? Nothing. Ukraine now wants to conscript men up to age 65. Putting a 65 year old man in a trench in front of Russian marines, paratroops, and Storm-Z 1/3rd their age is what I'd call "despicable".
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Weeb, you really ought to explore the main reason the West has underestimated Russia for centuries and Putin in particular for two decades. Anglo-Saxon nations look down on Slavic nations for centuries----if not a millennia or more. THAT is why from the day this war started, all you hear is "drunks", "poorly-led", "conscripts", "equipment doesn't work", "can't mass a large army", "pilots are no good" , "tanks are no good", "only have shovels", etc. You could look up the words of Hindenburg and Bismarck in 1914 about Russia, read them aloud, and they would sound EXACTLY like what we've heard from NATO leadership for the past two years. Hitler said the same on the eve of Barbarossa: "...rotten stinking edifice" he called Russia. NATO does NOT respect Russia. NEVER HAS respected Russia. Likely never WILL respect Russia. THAT is why they will NEVER defeat Russa.
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I'm really conflicted about this. Humans have been displaced by war, famine, politics, etc. for as long as there have been more than two human settlements; 99% of the time through no fault of their own. However, listen to her response to the legitimate question about why should she be allowed to stay when it was clear her resettlement was temporary? She dodged the question and just gave the standard answer "we have behaved, we want to stay, etc." Here in US we are being swarmed by people from South American countries in exactly the same manner; politics, economic deprivation, everything under the Sun is driving them to the US. You ask them, why should we accept you? They give the same generalized "humanitarian" answer. That's fine. However, that answer works for everyone; by that logic the entire population of Guatemala should be allowed into the US; the entire population of Syria should be allowed into Denmark. What makes any one person's situation different than another?? The answer is none. Go home. It harms your country more in the long run for all of its productive citizens to simply leave when things get tough. Eventually the only people left are the few very powerful, and the multitudes of very weak----just like Venezuela.
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This war will be among the worst foreign policy disasters of the United States. The repercussions will be immense and will last decades, possibly even a century. In less than two years, Russia has obtained intact examples of virtually every NATO armored vehicle currently extant. Every anti-tank, and anti-aircraft weapons currently extant. Every artillery system, whether projectile or rocket based, currently extant. Most American combat drones currently extant. Not only that, the electronic warfare suite of NATO weaponry from the cheapest drone, to the most expensive missile are now recorded digitally for the next generation of Russian engineers to study. Only the US Navy hasn't had her "skirt lifted" to the degree the Army and Air Force has in this war. Russian weaponry in 2053 will trace their ancestry in propulsion, navigation, targeting, and avionics to lessons learned from the Ukraine war. Biden will be regarded on the level of Benedict Arnold in terms of how much of America's knowledge and intelligence resources he gave away in this ill-fated adventure.
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If Ukraine was taking Bakhmut-sized cities, hurling Russians back in headlong retreat, shooting down 100 Su-30 fighters, our screens filled every night with joyous people "liberated" throwing flowers at AFU riding Challenger 2s, taking 10s of thousands of poorly-fed conscripts prisoner, etc. after the $113B we've spent, one could justify sending more money. Instead, Ukraine is taking farms, "liberating" ghosts, Russia has shot down more Su-30s than AFU has, and the Challenger 2/Leopard 2 have not destroyed even a single solitary Russian armored vehicle of any type. If $113B gets us failure on that level, what is $300M more gonna do??
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If Ukraine was taking Bakhmut-sized cities, hurling Russians back in headlong retreat, shooting down 100 Su-30 fighters, our screens filled every night with joyous people "liberated" throwing flowers at AFU riding Challenger 2s, taking 10s of thousands of poorly-fed conscripts prisoner, etc. after the $113B we've spent, one could justify sending more money. Instead, Ukraine is taking farms, "liberating" ghosts, Russia has shot down more Su-30s than AFU has, and the Challenger 2/Leopard 2 have not destroyed even a single solitary Russian armored vehicle of any type. If $113B gets us failure on that level, what is $300M more gonna do?? What is TEN BILLION more gonna do??
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Once you've studied history enough, you literally can almost become the closest thing to a Wizard that sees the future. I said two years ago that Biden eschewing talks with Russia and arming Ukraine to go to war would have knock-on effects the likes of which no one could predict. In the two years since, NATO has been proven to be weaker than anyone thought and the World watches and takes note of EVERYTHING. Every time you see a story about how UK has only "40 operational tanks", or "US is out of artillery shells" , or "Germany cannot find more than 60 operational Leopard 2's to give", the entire planet hears that. These are the sights and sounds of history shifting and changing: Xi/Putin Summit, BRICS, Coups and attempted Coups, NK long range missiles, Iran as drone supplier to the world, etc. Biden's War has opened Pandora's Box.
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It isn't "slower"; it has been beaten back across the entire front for two months!! The West is like a groom that, in spite of months of evidence his bride is a Succubus, still has hope that he can change the outcome of their marriage and avoid his doom. Russia has defeated Leopard, AMX10, Bradley, Avenger, HIMARS, JDAM, Switchblade, Patriot, CAESAR, Gephard, Excalibur, M777, Stinger, Milan, Javelin, Storm Shadow, (and Challenger was prohibited from use by UK so it's the same as it not being there). None of that can even be disputed. Russia defeated two of the largest armies in history in Napoleon and Hitler; little Ukraine never had a chance.
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I learned many years ago that fuel made by oil companies is usually the highest quality, so I have generally stuck to Shell, Mobil, Valero and other stations that are actually oil companies for my "good" cars, like Audi/BMW/Corvette/Jag etc. For my Toyota/Ford/Buick I just get whatever and I've never had an issue. Believe me, there IS a difference. A few years back on my first road trip in my new Alfa Romeo Giulia, I stopped at some random gas station in Little Rock, AR. I began gassing up, and before my wife even got back from the bathroom the car began sputtering and revving in a way I'd never seen before. I was shocked, but assumed it was cheap gas and just drove on. Nothing happened on the way home, and I've never seen that again since (never gassed up in Little Rock since). Imho, Euro cars its better to stick to the top brands, Asian and domestic you can put anything in there...
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I hope the leaders in emerging parts of Asia, Africa, South America are watching and studying all this intently. If you plan to become one of the "big boys" of the 21st century, you better put 10% of your GDP into tanks, guns, drones, supercarriers, destroyers, subs, frigates, missiles of every kind, and a standing professional army. You better protect yourself, because when the isht hits the fan, no one else is gonna protect you. Words don't mean anything; might makes right.
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"reshuffle" - Here it is late afternoon in US CDT, and the word "resigned" appears nowhere in any West Media story. Nor has CNN/BBC/SKY ever mentioned the number of other ministers who quit and the timing of Kuleba's impending resignation to convey the true context of what happened today. Yet, outside the US, in Asia, Africa, the ME, South America, Central America, literally everywhere else ; full reports with documents and interviews and videos and reporters and the full story.
WHY? Why does the West Media lie by omission to us in such a transparent way? Why do they constantly sanitize words, leave context out, not report relevant facts, all in an effort to present the "rosy" picture to us about Ukraine for ALMOST THREE YEARS! Why can't they just tell the truth??
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The more I see just how much NATO stacked Ukraine up over the last 6 months, the more it's confirmed what I long suspected: the only other single nation on earth that could do what Russia has done is the United States of America. Russia faces patriot, nasams, iris-t, hawk,s-125,s-200,s-300, crotale, starstreak, stinger, and all that cannot deny them the sky completely. Alone, there is no NATO country that could accomplish that feat but the US. Russia second only to America on this planet...."
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After seeing the tepid reception at the UN for Zelensky, the open disagreements with Poland and the clearly "defensive only" nature of Biden's recent aid package, papers all over the world openly wondering if war between NATO and Russia is just a matter of time. Why bother send Ukraine the weapons if you are going to fight Russia directly anyway? All these Crimea strikes are US Global Hawk for intel, and UK Storm Shadow for attack; just as NATO would do it themselves anyway.
Putin saw this coming all along and that is precisely why he has taken the slow steady course with Ukraine. This has always been about NATO and Putin knows he is likely to have to fight NATO directly sooner or later. That's why the defensive-only posture all year, the 280,000 new recruits, the 145,000 draft just approved a couple weeks ago, the alliance with NK to ensure an uninterrupted supply of millions of shells and rockets, the restarting of the T-80BVM production line shut since 1997 (the only Russian tank with a turbine engine), the rapid evolution of the Lancet and FPV drones now being mass produced by the thousands, etc. Just add it all up and for Ukraine its overkill; because it isn't just for Ukraine. It is for NATO.
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Wars have a funny habit of doing things you never would have expected in places you never would have expected. Joe Biden had no military experience and has never understood war; the bungled Afghanistan exit debacle was a precursor. Putin sent him a draft framework in September 2021 and he ignored it; believing he could enable Ukraine to win a war easily. Now, Poland, Romania, Belarus, Niger, NK, Iran, China (and more to come), all moving, angling, shaping and being opportunistic in this environment created by Biden's CHOICE.
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60 years ago, public housing was neat, well maintained, and safe. The main reason? Unmarried people were not allowed; you had to be a married intact family to qualify. Most were intact families on hard times, and eventually daddy got a better job and they moved out never to return. Liberals (mostly from California) attacked this policy in the early 1960s as "Religious Discrimination" against unmarried people. They were trying to open public housing to anyone with a child who was poor; not just married couples and they felt making women get married was putting Christian values on a public service. They won. By the 1970s, public housing was a terror-filled nightmare of single mothers, poverty and violence since there were no dads around to keep order. This is all fact----you can go look it up whenever you wish. White liberals destroyed the two-parent home model to carve out space for LGBTQ families; the unintentional side effect was to vastly increase the number of single-parent homes (99% woman as the head). We ALL now know what a disaster this has been, especially for AA families. AA's have 1/10th the wealth of Whites; when AA's were mostly married, two adults could weather the economic storms better than one---giving the family resiliency. Whites, generally having more wealth and opportunity, could recover from economic hardship better so their families were not destroyed to the same degree as an AA family. With only a female as the head of these new households, there was no chance for AA children born into poverty. We now all suffer under the whirlwind of violence and hopelessness these decisions made decades ago have produced. AAs must turn their backs on this "no marriage" model and return to the strong, two-parent homes they had all through Slavery and Reconstruction. TWO are stronger than ONE. It must be done or this Apocalypse will never end.
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"The Biden administration has quietly given Ukraine permission to strike inside Russia — solely near the area of Kharkiv — using U.S.-provided weapons, three U.S. officials and two other people familiar with the move said Thursday, a major reversal that will help Ukraine to better defend its second-largest city." May 30, 2024
NATO changed their ROE! Fine I guess, but 2+ years RU has been playing by NATO's rules and, because NATO is losing, they changed their rules. There are now Strykers, Bradleys, and MaxxPros inside Russia proper , this was unthinkable a week ago, which is why the buildup raised no alarm! RU was caught off guard, ok. Their error was not realizing NATO was willing to risk changing the ROE!
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Biden, Stoltenberg, Johnson, and the other leaders that desired war with Russia could not be the ones to sit down and discuss ending it; as complicit instigators their egos and reputations would never allow them to do that. Trump doesn't have anything to do with it; he can come in with no baggage, no reputation to protect, no ego to bruise. Putin, of course, can also use this to his political advantage (as he undoubtedly will). By simply offering terms sweeter than what he would have offered Biden, he can leave the world with the impression that a reasonable accommodation was there all along, and only the foolish Biden, Blinken, and Austin were such intransigent vampires bent on spilling Russian guts, they didn't want to even listen. A win/win for both, and the reputation of the Biden Administration and the DEMs destroyed for a generation.
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I hope the leaders in emerging parts of Asia, Africa, South America are watching and studying all this intently. If you plan to become one of the "big boys" of the 21st century, you better put 10% of your GDP into tanks, guns, drones, supercarriers, destroyers, subs, frigates, missiles of every kind, and a standing professional army. If things get bad enough, your "treaties" aren't worth the paper they are written on; if your "friend" needs shells to protect his own people, you won't get them at any price. Words don't mean anything; might makes right.
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The post-war picture is starting to take shape, if you pay attention to the disparate pieces. Ukraine has signed like 10 or more "security agreements" with individual NATO countries; France, Italy, UK, etc....even Canada. These agreements seem kind of "meh"; provisions to help with training, money and the like, but they have this open-ended provision to provide help "if Ukraine is attacked". Not sure what that provision means. Add that together with the public annoucements of Western arms manufacturers planning to build factories in Ukraine, plus the huge investments in Ukrainian farming companies by Cargill, ADM, Nestle, etc., "NATO" may not do much, but collectively a bunch of countries in NATO seem to be willing to risk the wrath of the Bear. Of course Russia knows all this, which is why it is building THREE MILLION drones a year----way overkill for Ukraine. We are probably going to enter a new 50-year Cold War II with a smaller Ukraine, Novorossiya left intact, and some kind of buffer zone between them.
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I'm laughing in the first five minutes... "Organized withdrawal"? When we all clearly see troops running, vehicles abandoned, ammo and documents left behind? "17,000 dead", when The Telegraph the day after said "17,000 casualties" and Mediazona (pro-Western) estimated 7,000 Russian KIA since October? Anyway, I'll stick to agreed facts. You DO get one point for at least mentioning Ukraine shelled civilians mercilessly for a decade from Avdiivka; as a partisan that must have been difficult for you. As a historian, surely you know Russia's ability to absorb punishment and still win. Yet, even in your wild 3 minute "what if" to solve the shell dilemma, you never once accounted for Russia's reaction to such moves. Just last week they got a shipment of 400 Fath-360 GLONASS guided rockets from Iran, and you know what NK is capable of in terms of ammo. You know in your heart this is unwinnable, but you won't say so. Why?
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Only a few ultra-nerd historians can see it now; for the average "Joe' it takes years for historical perspective to be apparent. This war will be among the worst foreign policy disasters of the United States. The repercussions will be immense and will last decades, possibly even a century. In less than two years, Russia has obtained intact examples of virtually every NATO armored vehicle currently extant. Every anti-tank, and anti-aircraft weapons currently extant. Every artillery system, whether projectile or rocket based, currently extant. Most American combat drones currently extant. Not only that, the electronic warfare suite of NATO weaponry from the cheapest drone, to the most expensive missile are now recorded digitally for the next generation of Russian engineers to study. Only the US Navy hasn't had her "skirt lifted" to the degree the Army and Air Force has in this war. Russian weaponry in 2053 will trace their ancestry in propulsion, navigation, targeting, and avionics to lessons learned from the Ukraine war. Biden will be regarded on the level of Benedict Arnold in terms of how much of America's knowledge and intelligence resources he gave away in this ill-fated adventure.
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After seeing the tepid reception at the UN for Zelensky, the open disagreements with Poland and the clearly "defensive only" nature of Biden's recent aid package, papers all over the world openly wondering if war between NATO and Russia is just a matter of time. Why bother send Ukraine the weapons if you are going to fight Russia directly anyway? All these Crimea strikes are US Global Hawk for intel, and UK Storm Shadow for attack; just as NATO would do it themselves anyway.
Putin saw this coming all along and that is precisely why he has taken the slow steady course with Ukraine. This has always been about NATO and Putin knows he is likely to have to fight NATO directly sooner or later. That's why the defensive-only posture all year, the 280,000 new recruits, the 145,000 draft just approved a couple weeks ago, the alliance with NK to ensure an uninterrupted supply of millions of shells and rockets, the restarting of the T-80BVM production line shut since 1997 (the only Russian tank with a turbine engine), the rapid evolution of the Lancet and FPV drones now being mass produced by the thousands, etc. Just add it all up and for Ukraine its overkill; because it isn't just for Ukraine. It is for NATO.
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1000 km2, and trying to "push deeper" into 17,000,000 km2... That makes it pretty clear how absurd the West Media is, right? Oh, and that other front they've ignored for three months? RU taking Povrovsk (pop. 60,000) , Toretsk (pop. 30,000) , and just took Niu York (pop. 10,000) this past week. Ukraine has taken half of Sudzha (pop. 5000). 🤣🤣🤣
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