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Comments by "Dean Schulze" (@deanschulze3129) on "Unit Testing Is The BARE MINIMUM" video.
"Which brings me to the next question, if TDD is so irrefutably great and TDD has been around for quite some time, why hasn't it become the de facto developing method for most projects?" I've been asking that question for years and no one can answer it. Not Dave Farley, not Ron Jeffries, not Martin Fowler, not Bob Martin, not Kent Beck, not anyone.
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@Ashton666 Of course I expect professionals to do what is best for their companies and their customers. Why don't you expect that? You couldn't even offer a speculative answer to my question so you resort to the nonsense that my question is the answer to my question. That is the kind of drivel I see often from TDD fanboys.
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Unit tests are worthless in a distributed system. That should be pretty obvious.
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@mistalan Answer his final question. If you try to do that you'll see that your comment is nonsense.
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@ErikLevin - That isn't what I said. Do you have a response to what I said which is if TDD actually worked better than other processes why isn't it in wide spread use? Respond to my argument, not to its inverse.
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@someoneelse5005 - Who disagreed with "understand what your code is supposed to do"? You are using a very dishonest tactic in trying to attribute to me something I never said. The rest of your post is unsupported assertions and mindless drivel. The mindlessness is what drives fads that aren't supported by metrics or data. Come back when you have some data to back up your claims. Until then you're just a mindless fanboy.
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@Ashton666 - You love to make unsupported claims. You assume as an article of faith that "TDD is in the best interest of ALL of those involved in software,". Neither you nor anyone else has shown that. You say it "can be mathematicaly shown to be wrong!" that "humans have all the needed knowledge to assure the a given decision leads them to their best interest". But who ever said that? Or even assumed that? You create a false assumption and then proceed to show it is wrong. Duh You assume that TDD is some kind of magic that will solve the problem of not having enough information. I said that professionals usually do what they believe is best for their customers and their company, but you've turned this into people doing what they think is best for them. Those are different things. Your writing is incoherent and your thinking is even more so.
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@ErikLevin - Answer the question. Tell us why TDD has not been widely adopted if it is so good? Do you have any metrics showing that TDD works better than other approaches?
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@ErikLevin - I meant it as a question that leads to a conclusion: If TDD actually worked better than other approaches then why wouldn't it be in widespread use? My conclusion and that of many others is that it isn't any better than other approaches. You seem to know this when you admit that you don't have any metrics to the contrary. Smoking isn't widespread (at least not in the US). It's pretty rare. Kind of like the use of TDD.
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