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  5.  @lynns4426  for sure. I mean I know it's not always easy when you're in a not-great work environment to say 'take this job and shove it', there are practical considerations, most people don't have the luxury of just walking away whenever we want because most of us are not able to put away that much savings due the cost of everything and the fact that wages for most people have been lagging for decades, I fully understand this. I've been there myself. But at the same time, staying at an unhealthy and toxic workplace, regardless of the specific reasons why it's bad, isnt good either. It's not always easy to walk away, especially if we have a little savings to fall back on, and families to help support, but sometimes it needs to be done. I know it can be scary, but what's the alternative? Staying in a dead-end job with a negative atmosphere and a crappy management structure? we got to spend a lot of our lives at our jobs and we don't have to love them they should be something that we can have some positive feelings about. I'm really happy to see workers organizing and advocating on their behalf in any environment in any industry. You can never have too much of that. But at the same time, one has to ask himself if the prize is worth fighting for, meaning is a long-term position at a place like Amazon with an obviously hostile and toxic management was even worth having? I'm not saying we all have to love our job, but I think it should have to meet minimum tolerability standards. Even with a better pay, is a long-term job working in a floor position at Amazon even worth having? does someone really want to spend 10 years pushing packages on their factory floor? I've heard they're really resistant to promoting their workers into management. so what they really want is a bunch of human automatons not people with needs and aspirations for the future. It seems like a pretty dead end job to me. The asshole management is never going to come around, and from what we hear the pace of the work sounds completely abusive and excessive. Even if someone enjoyed the work of sorting and processing packages, and I could see how someone could, (I've worked production before and I didn't mind it) but in this case it seems like a completely unpleasant and undesirable situation. Totally hostile management, total disregard for worker safety or well-being, high stress from the unreasonable work speed required ... Sure 15 to $17 isn't a horrible starting wage but unless you're living in a rural area, that's not a lot to live off of. Its better than minimum wage but that's hardly saying anything. Sometimes a job just isn't worth it. I have to wonder if a lot of these people work at Amazon wouldn't feel a lot better about themselves if they just cut their losses, turned their back on that place and looked for a better opportunity elsewhere. Sometimes something isn't savable. Kind of like a bad relationship.
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  11.  @dorothygaydosh897  you're right about that. All Labor battles are worth fighting but sometimes people have to ask themselves how long they want to put up with an unpleasant work environment? I get I get we're talking about people who don't have degrees who are looking for more entry level positions, I don't even have a degree yet I end up doing military time for a while and then some other things happened after I got out and I haven't gone back yet. So I understand not everybody has the skills to choose from white collar jobs. If they feel they can't get better pay anywhere else, and unfortunately considering how shit wages have been intentionally suppressed for the last 40 plus years that's very believable, they may be willing to tolerate a high level of workplace nonsense. I guess it all depends on the person. If they don't mind the type of work and management stays out of their way other than once in awhile, I could see it being tolerable. My big worry is the speed demanded. I'm not sure if I was working there I could consistently meet that extreme pace. I don't mind a fast pace, but there's fast and then there's excessive. It sounds like Amazon's is clearly excessive. I had to put a production line job was because I couldn't quite make the speed required. After my first couple weeks my hands overnight became very painful and throbbing and that kept up for two or three days. Now perhaps in time that would have gone away but I had no way of no one. So I quit. It's possible everything would have worked out had I stuck with it and my hands would have accommodated to their new demands, but I was able to find some other work locally so I decided to do that instead. I could probably put up with loser management if I didn't have to interact with them on a daily basis but the excessive speed is something I'm not sure I can get used to. I wouldn't work in a place that is purposefully disregarding the worker safety, has an unfair attendance policy, and chooses to set a deliberately excessive and unnecessary pace, all practices that Amazon has been routinely accused of.
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