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Ficus-lovin\x27 Capybara N\x27 pals • 🌟 • 25 yrs ago
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Comments by "Ficus-lovin\x27 Capybara N\x27 pals • 🌟 • 25 yrs ago" (@YourCapybaraAmigo_17yrsago) on "That Time the Soviets Tried to Abolish Money" video.
Their goals were noble but clearly mistakes were made. That's too bad. Forcing too much radical change too soon is rarely a good idea. Society is complex, and changes take time. Forcing too much through too soon usually creates a lot of unintended problems. I do think someday the world will move beyond money but we're not ready for all that yet. There still remains the matter of what to use as a medium of common exchange or how to purchase large amounts of material and how to pay people. You can't do that without some form of money. I do believe in more State control of some industries, but I don't believe any central govt body should control all industry. There is certainly a place for the private sector but I do believe in pretty heavy regulation based in common sense and protecting all workers and our common environment.
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@TheLeftPath yeah I wouldn't be surprised. I doubt any system is perfect but the jokes about food shortages in the ussr I'd be willing to guess are pretty exaggerated. The last big famine was in the 20s unless there's something else I don't know about.
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Interesting.... Sounds like the current system of how the EBT card works. It's essentially digitized money but it can only be used for non-hot, food goods, essentially grocery scrip. For those who get general cash benefits aka "welfare" they can use them for anything. It's regular money. Not sure if that's a perfect analogy but that's what it made me think of.
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Lolol. Well unfortunately in the US now the same could be about it (where I'm guessing we both live). Clearly there's still a lot of work to do before we find the perfect system that provides everyone with their minimum basic needs met on a daily basis, on an ongoing stable basis.
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@johnnynick3621 erm, no. Just because somebody earns more money than the next person doesn't make them a better person. As the other brother said there are a hundred reasons why someone earns a higher salary and few of them have to do with rank merit. Also in the first world we have never been more productive as a whole, and yet poverty is at an all-time high. We have more than enough to provide for everyone's basic needs whether they work or not, whether they are disabled or sick or old or whatever, and at a minimum, that is what I want to see. I don't agree that everyone should be paid the same, that I don't, but I do hereby state and affirm that everyone deserves to have their minimum needs covered by some sort of government provision if they cannot get it for themselves, or for whatever reason wish not to. So chew on that for a minute big hoss.
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@muha0644 that's true that did happen- and let me ask, how the literal fuck does the military turn on their own govt?? What the actual fuck. What did they want and why did they hate their parliament all of a sudden? ..... Is a question I would ask if you or anyone knows the answer. That's some crazy shit. A lot of people forget that happened. But I guess all military bosses are fascists.
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@Iv4Bez hmm..are you sure most of the public wanted (or thought they wanted) that fatass alcoholic known as Boris Yeltsin??
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@eric_864 true, but civilization is inevitable. Unfortunately sometimes it brings problems.
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@garethmartin6522 well what she's saying is, in the US for instance, there were a lot of raw materials and innate geography that contributed to its develop. That's not to say that other factors didn't play a part, of course they did, but without these natural buffs, the US may not be the dominant power it is today. Or it still may, who knows, but the point is, it would probably be somewhat less likely if any of these factors were different.
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@jordannewman177 well I do. Look it's not a simple black and white issue, naturally there were issues, but you sound like Joseph McCarthy over there. Why don't you sit down Joe? Why don't you have a seat??... Have a seat.
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@stonecoldsteveaustin9353 there need never be any losers in life. Sports, sure. Games, ok. But trade? No there doesn't need to be and there shouldn't be; it's just that due to the greed of some who dictate their right to take more and more and more and as much as they want and to harm other people to get it, dummies like you come along and say "oh well this is just totally natural". Yes some people are very greedy this is true but that doesn't mean we have to allow it. We don't have to agree with it. We can oppose it. We can create economic systems that provide for everyone. I'm sure there's no perfect system but you're way wrong if you think that it's natural that "some people" just have to "lose". Not by my values it isn't. You're out here thinking that human beings and animals are the same thing. Surely by now you know this isn't true.
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@ShadowSumac not that free. There is so much bogus subsidization of the largest and most profitable industries in the US they otherwise would totally fail or at the least would be much less profitable if they weren't completely and artificially propped up by their bought and paid for servants in the US congress. This being primarily oil and gas and Big Ag, altho I'm sure there are others. We live in a massive multinational transnational large-corporate oligopoly right now, a corporate totalitarianship and I think that sucks both my ass and yours. I think there should definitely be a private market but without controlling the large corporations, and setting high protection standards for Labor and the environment, we're just asking for them to f**k us right in the a**. Oh- and they do. This is bad.
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@ShadowSumac but why when it was on sale in the 99¢ bin??
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@CaneofLoxley galaxy facts Yep I agree
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@A_Haunted_Pancake yeah that sucks genitals but it's not like that anymore
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@volition2015 interesting. This was in reference to Afghanistan?
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@ShadowSumac oh, something about reading Communism for Dummies lol
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@CaneofLoxley there's certainly enough resources in the world I believe to provide for everyone's basic needs and you're right there's a small elite class always getting in the way of that. I do think it is unrealistic to expect good values from everyone tho. Some people are just crap and are very aggressive and only care about their own desires (let alone those who are basically sociopathic or worse). I do want to see a diverse sector of trade, business, and commerce but I also want it to be heavily regulated to protect the biosphere and all Labor. I would love to see a size limit enforced on corporations and hard wealth limits. I see no reason why we can't demand some sort of minimum material guarantees (MMGs) from any organized first world govt. We could end most poverty with those alone. So I won't say I'm communist per se but definitely socialist. I want people to feel free and able to create their own businesses provided they abide by strict labor and environmental standards. I would like to see heavy control on the banking sector. I would like to see a Green new deal but more aggressive and comprehensive than previously envisioned. Utopia isn't really possible but most definitely a sustainable green world is.
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And yet for some reason cannabis is still not legal the world over I mean.... What the literal fuck. Not really that apropos to this conversation but just kind of something I'd like to throw out there. That's God's plant right there and it's treated like the devil's ass cheese. I'm just tired of it. The criminalization of nature continues.
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@ShadowSumac oh lol it's not a big deal. I was just making a throwaway comment in response to where you told someone to read something other than communism for dummies lol
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