Comments by "Ficus-lovin\x27 Capybara N\x27 pals • 🌟 • 25 yrs ago" (@YourCapybaraAmigo_17yrsago) on "Fan the flames: Lahaina on fire" video.

  1. Hope this gets pinned because if all of this is true and at this point I'm inclined to believe it is, this is damn near a smoking gun I'd say. It seems very obvious at this point that all of this was deliberate.
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  2. As I've known for years, there is not a single soul with the DC apparatus that gives one single solitary shit about anyone in this country besides themselves and the billionaires and the Wall Street interests who pay them.
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  3.  @Ashakat42  I'm not there so I can't verify myself but surely these facts are verifiable somewhere. What I wouldn't give for a whistleblower from any of the public agencies in Lahaina at this moment. This isn't about kids being touched in basements under pizza parlors that don't even exist and some fictional wacknut Q guy, these are things that can actually be checked.
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  4.  @sabinereynaudsf  okay thank you for that clarification; as far as the other details that remain if they're even partially true they oaint an extremely disturbing picture. They seem to indicate that there was deliberate malice action taken to prolong the damage this fire will cause and maximize the chances that locals will lose their homes or even die due to be trapped in its path. It seems like some very very powerful well-connected people want to make a land-grab and the native and working class people are just in the way. Now I don't live there so I have no way of knowing personally, but if the local city and county officials are basically puppets for these elite interests then perhaps they indeed issued orders to block people inside the fire's path, and are currently doing everything in their power to help these elite interests take the land or get all of these properties for a song , and who then have plans to develop it into super high-priced real estate and/or hotels.
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  5. @@JFK-co4fq sadly I still have to explain to some slaves online why eminent domain is grossly immoral and should not be supported by anybody that has a conscience and doesn't work for a large corporation.
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  6.  @adamjohnson286  I believe John is mostly right but apparently the missing buses were used to evacuate tourists. As for why more buses weren't used to help the locals, I think that's a very disturbing question. Yes why weren't they???? Even in Katrina, the USs most shameful and disgraceful neglect of a natural disaster to date, they had many buses used to evacuate people.
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  7. Well I think it's clear what's going on, attempted local jena-side and depopulation and displacement. They want the land for real estate mega-profits. The same people seem to be reborn every generation. I mean look- this government was run by elites from Day 1 who were more than happy to commit genocide to take the land and resources they wanted, since even before 1776, but most certainly after it. I find it hard to believe there's an innocent explanation for all of the deliberate and incompetent steps that led to this fire being so devastating. From what I've read and learned so far, it all beggars belief that this was just mere unintended incompetence, and even if that's true those responsible should still hang because that's their job NOT to fail when 1000s of lives are on the line! But I think this was much darker, and much more deliberate. If something looks and quacks like a duck, and says "I'm a fkng duck", it's a duck.
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  8. Im sorry btw. Try to stay strong it sounds like you've gone through a lot in your life. I have too, tho maybe not as much as in your case, idk. Please stay strong.
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  9. Oh no really??? Why??? I was following his coverage. He took some down??
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  10. Apparently all the firefighters and the cops in Lahaina were totally cool with trapping their local citizens and intentionally neglecting them so they died in this fire??? Pretty chilling. I mean where do all these ruthless predators come from? That's all I want to know.
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  11. Volcano?
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  12. Well I think it's clear what's going on, attempted local jena cide and depopulation and displacement. They want the land for real estate mega-profits. The same people seem to be reborn every generation. I mean look- this government was run by elites from Day 1 who were more than happy to commit genocide to take the land and resources they wanted, since even before 1776, but most certainly after it. I find it hard to believe there's an innocent explanation for all of the deliberate and incompetent steps that led to this fire being so devastating. From what I've read and learned so far, it all beggars belief that this was just mere unintended incompetence, and even if that's true those responsible should still hang because that's their job NOT to fail when 1000s of lives are on the line! But I think this was much darker, and much more deliberate. If something looks and quacks like a duck 117 different ways, it's a damn duck.
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  13. And they aren't getting it! And what about Puerto Rico six years ago??. What about the help for their tragedy??
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  14. What breaks my heart is who will help these people? When everybody in power is a villain, who will help the ordinary ones who are victims of this crime??? AND SINCE WHEN DOES FEMA HAVE THE RIGHT TO CONFISCATE DONATED GOODS JUST BECAUSE "THEY" DON'T APPROVE OF THEM!?!? ITS NOT FOR YOU!!! SINCE WHEN ARE AVERAGE CITIZENS NOT ALLOWED TO GIVE WHAT THEY WANT TO OTHER CITIZENS, WHO THEN HAVE THE RIGHT TO TAKE OR REJECT IT AS THEY WISH??
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  15. Holy shit... I did not know that. Christ where do these people come from?? They just want death is that it??
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  16. Most town meetings and City Hall meetings usually are. The deals are always done behind the scenes. The public sessions are for show. The public is just an inconvenience for these people. They don't give two fucks about the public yet we keep voting for these people. Isn't that odd?
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  17.  @kellikelli4413  yeah I agree an assisted living facility is usually a good thing so maybe there are more details to this story that OP has forgotten.
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  18.  @VincentPaulS  yep you got it
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  19.  @lynnjacobs9885  well let's hear them all; I mean I trust that most of us here have the basic sense to filter what they're saying and we can choose what we feel is believable or not. We understand a lot of them are in shock and grieving right now.
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  20. Toolsi says she cares about the people of Hawaii. That's a crock. Toolsi cares about Toolsi.
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  21. Apparently all the firefighters and the cops in Lahaina were totally cool with trapping their local citizens and intentionally neglecting them so they died in this fire??? Pretty chilling. I mean where do all these ruthless predators come from? That's all I want to know.
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  22. I think you're right. BlackRock seems to literally control the world rn.
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  23. Exactly like it!!!
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  24. And Puerto Rico from hurricane Maria. PR was completely neglected afterwards and was naturally preyed upon by disaster capitalists.
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  25.  @Shaylynne  crazy.... Yes I guess so. They have a death agenda. Crazy.
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  26.  @bnaka808  they are only powerless if they choose to be.
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  27.  @bnaka808  Well we are all lost if the FD refuses to be autonomous. I mean we are absolutely lost if they choose to bend the knee to their local PD. Pigs are famous for not having a conscience, for loving what is evil and carrying out any order no matter how amoral. If the FD can't be a check valve on THAT, then yes we are ABSOLUTELY F*CKED.
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  28.  @bnaka808  well now you know the problem when slave minds refuse to countermand criminal orders.... The inability of people to command themselves is a sad phenomenon.... People truly are genetically incapable of thinking for themselves aren't they??? And so crimes happen easily. If I was the fire chief and there was a God damn fire I would have had all my people out on the street doing everything possible to stop it I mean after all, that's my fkg job!
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  29. Exactly it boggles my mind. Both National Guard and all of our nearby military units should have been immediately deployed to help in relief efforts.
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  30. I thought of the same thing this is extremely reminiscent of that.
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  31. Amen to that
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  32. Okay I'm glad you're doing fine but a lot of these statements in here are deeply disturbing and I feel raise very important questions. Since I honestly don't know and I sincerely want to know, will you tell me what you feel is wrong about this video. You don't think that there's an underlying agenda with business elites and the current politicians and powers-that-be to stand back and allow the fire to do maximum damage in hopes that it will force more locals out of their homes so that big money interests can swoop in and take it over? I mean on several different unrelated sources I've heard that all key exits were blocked. Isn't this a crime against the people? They wanted the maximum numbers to perish in the fire apparently. Why in God's name would you block all the escape routes??? Are local news sources is reporting on any of this??
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  33.  benjaminvanzanten2205  So pretend none of these are true, other than the exits were blocked. Explain to me how there's an innocent explanation for all exits being blocked when there is a life-and-death natural disaster occurring. Unless the exits weren't blocked but that's been claimed bow by quite a few people. I've seen the footage of people who had no choice but to escape by going into the water.
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  34.  @adamjohnson286  ok thanks
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  35.  @adamjohnson286     ugh.... So much gangsterism. How do we even stop this?? I am really not sure at this point that's what I ask myself every fng day. I mean how do we stop these ruthless white-gloved gangsters from taking over our city and targeting the rest of us when it's convenient?? Bruh I don't even know. People vote for these fucking people. Why is there NO public oversight over these people? How did we get to here? And more importantly, how the fuck do we change it?? Well I do have some ideas. So long as we stay under the thumb of a tiny group of people things like this will always be possible. Without full direct democracy where everything that passes has to go through public vote, we're essentially subjects not citizens. And that's bullshit.
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  36.  @jlhi808  yes ultimately of the county's money comes from taxpayers but people still should sue. Unfortunately we can't take them out the right way, meaning the permanent way, so this is people's only other option.
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  37.  @lilyfuzz1  I agree. Another vital question that needs to be answered. Sadly looks like nothing will be done because it looks like everyone in power was complicit. I doubt the feds will come and do an investigation and if they do it will only be for show.
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  38.  @jlhi808  glad ur ok if u live in Lahaina.
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  39.  @californigirl  you're right. That is disgusting. As if only charter buses would have worked. All those school buses I mean what fucking F. Nobody in power in this country cares about the average people that's a fact I learned a long time ago and it's proven and reproven 100s of times a week, month or year. They only care about themselves and the big money interests who fund them and bribe them.
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  40. Yes, disaster capitalism is well underway. Shameful.
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  41. That's right, OP.
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  42. I guess the rich and powerful want the locals to die to get them out of the way. This certainly appears to be deliberate ongoing slow-moving genocide.
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  43. When will destructive billionaire interests stop owning our political process and politicians?? Never?
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  44. Well look, both mainstream parties are two sides of the same ass, haven't you figured that out yet?
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  45.  @malenagarcia1757  I hope so. But... If FEMA swoops in to take what they give?? Idk I'm not there. I've never heard of FEMA literally stealing disaster relief and if it's true my mind is blown but I can't say I'm that shocked. I hope it's not true but eyewitnesses claim they saw it happen. But god bless all the kind people on the ground trying to help the victims in their community. That touches my heart.
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  46. So long as we keep voting for ruthless bribe-taking money-seeking narcissists who don't give an F about the public they claim to serve this will never change. Only full direct democracy short-circuits this.
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  47.  @JCSAXON  yeah it's a joke that's why I stopped going. They don't give an F. They're arrogant and they are for themselves, not us.
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  48. If we can't take back our power with guns than at least we can organize for political movements that put people first like communists, leftists and Socialists along with Left Libertarians. The right-wing is just the corporate wing so obviously any right-winger in office isn't going to care or represent any public good interest. Unfortunately in the US both Democrats and Republicans are securely right-wing.
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  49. Well the fact is City Hall as we know it shouldn't even exist. The moment you appoint a City Hall you the citizen have no more power. They will demand your money, your taxes, they will commit any crime against you of property or sometimes of violence; you are demanded to pay immediately or suffer and essentially you have no voice other than to vote every couple of years for a different crop or the same crop of dictators. Occasionally you get to vote on a local or state ballot on a few issues but the majority are still decided well behind the scenes or in halls where you have no voice. Only the voice of the 1% and the well-heeled lobbyists of the 1% are heard in the halls of politicians. The masses are ignored as irrelevant and worthless. This is democracy? Choosing a rotating group of ruthless or semi-ruthless corrupt dictators and being forced to pay for them or else?? Wow doesn't sound very democratic or liberating to me. Sounds like slavery honestly. Sounds like criminal abuse. But I'm just a hard Left libertarian what do I know?? I believe we have the right to be our own masters and anything short of complete direct voting on everything short of internal administrative matters is a rampant miscarriage of justice. So long as we continue to bend the knee to masters the masters will always shit right on our faces. How's that working out for us so far? Yes we can have a government that's necessary just for simple organization, but we don't have to have a city hall per se. We can have a "public center" of which within there can be a number of public administrators who suggest policies. This isn't the same as City Hall, which is essentially a hyper-corrupt small group on hire to the 1% interests within that particular locality. All the same public departments can exist as now, along with possibly more, and some current mandatory taxes can exist, while some don't. The key difference is that any policy or public change that is suggested or proposed by any public official must first be put to public ballot. Anything that gets more than 60% of the votes wins. Anybody can suggest a policy and anybody can suggest repealing a policy. Power isn't held by one or a few tiny corrupt set of grubby hands. Public voting can be held at regular intervals say every 3 months. This can easily work statewide and within the municipalities. For state policies they can set voting to a little bit less frequently say every six months. Honestly without this guys we are all little more than pseudoslaves to all the big money interests that operate behind the scenes.
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  50.  @richibucto1    that's right. For some reason everybody votes for the same people who don't give a shit about them, arrogant a-holes who could care less if they live or die. I don't know why this is but it is. Republicans or democrats in this country there all the same- two sides of the same corporate-party ass. They're going to take the money and they're going to serve the Money and whether it's local or at the state level or certainly in DC they don't give an F about the 99.5%. I mean it's rule by hyper-elite anytime they're in office. Once they get into office all their pretty promises go right out the window. Once the big money gets the governors in their pocket or local mayors it's over, because mayors have local Pigs in their pocket and governors have the national guard and State troopers so I mean.... There it is. Sure people can fight back and demonstrate and be willing to risk violence and all of that, but then you get all these psychopaths in those groups I just mentioned who are more than happy to kill their neighbors because somebody on high told them to. It's definitely asymmetrical warfare. Pretty sad. Imagine being willing to kill, harm, abuse, or brutalize literally someone who could be your happy neighbor who's never done you harm simply because some worthless amoral politician tells you to. All for corporate money lust. Crazy. But some people are wired to do that ig and I think that's really unfortunate. These people are dangerous. Mindless bloodthirsty automatons. I do think it is possible to elect politicians of conscience who care about the public and not elite money but it hasn't happened so far.
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  51. Looks like the powers-that-be were just waiting for a natural event to capitalize on to get these people out of there. I am convinced now, it seems beyond doubt now. When you're a ruthless person, when you're amoral, human life has no value to you, especially human lives of color. They're just objects that need to be removed, not people with rights. If they send in the guns at some point I don't know how we're going to be able to stop this. The native Americans fought back and won many battles but in the end they were simply outnumbered by too many guns. Is that what's going to happen here???? I wish I knew a way to protect the native and ordinary people of Lahaina and Maui from predatory real estate interests and the worthless politicians who serve them.
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  52. I knew FEMA was purposely incompetent but I did not think they were evil. They confiscated the goods that were donated?!? And where are they now??? My god that's appalling. I mean these are necessary needs for those who lost everything. I hope these people burn in hell. FEMA and all them. It's hard to believe the natural evil they carry inside of them.
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  53. Yeah I mean he's clearly a mega corporate puppet, I mean this is so obvious. And then they did everything in their power to ensure the fire would destroy as many homes and kill as many people as possible? There is no innocent explanation for what happened with the fire come on. When Hawaii has one of the best emergency alert systems??? Chilling. They really want all that land and they really want all the locals to be driven out or to be killed.
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  54. FEMA should be sh1t at. I knew they were bad but I didn't know they were evil. I can't believe they would stoop so low as to take food and supplies away from starving and desperate citizens.
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  55.  @lynnjacobs9885  no it does, I mostly agree with you. Short of first-hand accounts of survivors and local residents on the ground, so far there doesn't seem to be accessible ways to independently verify these statements. But I do hope that changes. I mean this is truly disturbing. It didn't occur to me until earlier today that there could have been nefarious reasons behind this fire although I was starting to get a little side eye when I first heard claims that the exits were blocked.
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  56.  @lynnjacobs9885     Well that's brilliant see I didn't know that cuz I really don't know much about Hawaii or Maui other than the broad strokes of how they were essentially kidnapped into being part of the United States. Well ty for telling me no doubt you're exactly right, what is good for cattle may not be so good for fire management. And if their money can control the political process then they get what they want everyone else be damned. Same story just a different damn day. And people do vote for all these crooks all the time because crooks are excellent liars and people just keep voting for the liars in both parties. I don't know why.... everyone thinks THEIR politician is the sole good guy amongst a sea of crooks. So everyone keeps voting for the same usual suspects always thinking oh no its the OTHER guy that's bad. What people forget is that with rare exception THEYRE ALL BAD!!!... and it is the height of naivete to pretend otherwise. (So what's the solution? Well a different actual people-first party for one that could help. But we can talk about that later.) I am now wondering because of all of this terrible news that has come out if the fire was deliberately started but even if it wasn't, the way that island has been land managed over the past 100 years clearly contributed to high fire conditions. When the big money is allowed to dictate public policy this is exactly what happens everywhere all the time. It's literally a crime because thousands or tens of thousands of people suffer because a few pieces of shit wanted things their way. Do you remember the big fires in Northern California few years ago that destroy the town of Paradise? Now I'm not a 100% certain but I live in southern California and believe those were started by negligent maintenance from PG&E. PG&E is essentially a criminal enterprise at this point which has complete legal immunity because they buy our governors. Doesn't matter which party, they buy them all. The parties are the SAME that's what people can't seem to understand. There's no politician whose Red or Blue in this country that serves us, well there's a few but it's very few and they're not enough to make a difference; the vast majority serve MONEY, not us, period end of story. Why can't people get this after last 150 years of this being true? That is why all these disasters keep happening. Look over the past 100 years of natural disaster I'm the US, I bet you'll find an underlying pattern because I have. All of them could have been avoided or greatly reduced in severity if local and state governments had managed even halfway ethically. But it didn't matter because they were bought and paid off and they didn't give an F about the public not a single F. So they mismanaged public resources for the big pockets and then when the natural disasters hit, The fallout was way worse than it had to be because all of the countermeasures weren't properly maintained or had been removed entirely, such as the mangrove wetlands outside of New Orleans which allowed Hurricane Katrina to become much worse than it would have been otherwise (and due to other factors such as delivered and obvious neglect of the city's levees). If we keep electing psychopaths and criminals and narcopath crooks and willfully terminally stupid dangerous lunatics, we're all going to suffer and I don't think we want that so I'm really hoping and praying something changes but you know, I mean it hasn't yet so I don't even know what to say at this point anymore. I'll be fine but it really breaks my heart to constantly see these disasters that for the most part don't have to happen , not to mention all the other mess that happens in politics.
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  57.  @lynnjacobs9885  let me know if yt blanked my reply to you
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  58. Please be less naive, dear. He would care even less.
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  59. No one in DC cares if the rest of us live or die. Sad but very very true unfortunately. They have their own destructive agenda and the rest of us do not factor into it.
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  60. Yeah .. idk.... That's a fair question.
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  62. Almost exactly like what happened in 2017 in Puerto Rico. What did the feds do for them???? NOTHING. TOTAL ABANDONMENT. The feds always show how psychopathic they are.
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  63. I'm sorry FEMA let you down but as fucked up as they are I find it hard to believe they are discriminating relief on the basis of race.
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  64. Yes... Right.
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  65. The feds indeed seem to be uniquely psychopathic. A massive purge is indeed needed.
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  66. It's when politicians are amoral and wholly in the pocket of ruthless big money interests. Are they willing to commit local jenna side? Without a doubt. There have been many local attempted a jenna sides in the US by now haven't there??
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  67. You can argue with me but I swear to god I'm not lying. Red or Blue are the SAME and they do not serve you.
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  68. Whether it is or isn't climate change is real I don't know why you hate facts
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  69. Wtf dude
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