Comments by "Ficus-lovin\x27 Capybara N\x27 pals • 🌟 • 25 yrs ago" (@YourCapybaraAmigo_17yrsago) on "\"We need a mixture of Capitalism AND Socialism\" - BULLS#*T" video.

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  4. Hakim I think you're great but life is complicated. The modern world is more complicated than ever. Economies are not simple things and are going to need a mixture of nationalization, private ownership and worker ownership, imo. This is going to sound cheesy but I think life is similar to golf in that there's not one golf club that works in every situation. I see something as complicated and multifaceted as a national or local economy as something that should be diverse and flexible in order to meet the needs of everyone. Even under private ownership, it doesn't mean Labor can't be protected and get their full profit shares, provided their rights are spelled out in the law. That's where I'm at with it. I think when we're younger it's easy to fall into a little bit of magical thinking "well what if ONLY we just had this" and I know how tempting that can be and I really appreciate the enthusiasm that young people bring, I mean it wasn't all that long ago for me I'm only 41, but you know when you do get a little older than you kind of realize okay, we have certain restraints on us just by the reality we live in, huge systems are already in place and they have their inertia and their protections, but that certainly doesn't mean we can't apply ourselves in the most efficient ways to try to achieve our desired outcomes. Why don't we start by goals that we can achieve in our lifetime?? Full comprehensive labor rights under law. More welfare, for lack of a better word. Ethical tax reform. Comprehensive environmental safeguards. Green energy plus nuclear energy support. Justice issues, which will vary from country to country. (Do women even have anything approaching equal rights in the middle-east yet? I'm honestly asking- in the US it's gross racial issues) I'm willing to hear criticisms of this approach but in reality, what else is there?? Anyhow for people who want to make real change we can always try. We got to try to come up through the existing system however. At least for now. Who knows where things will be in 20 years or 50 years, more options may be possible, but now we have to start where we're at. Meaning for me we have to try the political approach because really we don't have the means to force anything else- yet. That's just how I see it. I think a revolutionary agenda can be achieved more than one way.
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  9. I love the Left and I want to have a utopian perfect world as much as anyone but I also think that there's nothing inherently wrong with private business, provided it has to abide by fair rules. I think it can become very very bad but in and of itself intrinsically no I do not find fault with it. I only find fault when the employees are not being remunerated there fair profit share or are being mistreated. Or environmental regulations are not in place. Yes I believe we can regulate away the problems in the private sector. Yes I'm sorry I do. Now someone tell me why I'm wrong. I believe in the modern West we can regulate away the problems yes I do. If anybody truly disagrees please tell me I'll definitely listen but as far as I'm concerned that is our only way at this moment to make positive economic changes. Positive social changes under law may be even harder. But only by trying to force new laws through can we hope to see a wide-scale change in our time. History has been amazing but unfortunately those who want to fight for social change now have to try to do it through the system. We don't have two million guns that we can fall back on. Anyhow I know somebody's going to call m le a neoliberal but I'm sorry I'm older- I live in the world. And please believe the last thing I am is neoliberal. Why don't we start with trying to get better laws passed first???? The ideal might be some kind of pure worker only state that is just not going to happen on this planet today, anywhere outside of small communes. Let's start where we're at- let's organize let's try to get leftists into office and let's try to get better laws passed, or let's push for more ballot measures. Obviously the red-blue purple uniparty grifting machine in the US is bogus but we CAN try to build an actual Left party here. Even if the ones in the past have petered out that doesn't mean we can't start again. An organized People always has the power- the problem is it's really hard for us to get organized. But at least we can try and I'm certainly willing to try. It starts with joining parties, meeting frequently, and doing whatever is necessary to try to build a genuine Left following. We can start with local issues because there's always a shit hot mess of those.
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  29. @@bnygxrl    fair trade between nations and private companies. The sourcing of raw materials and the various plants, farms, and factories that exist throughout the world. We all know that the global South has been exploited for centuries but it doesn't have to be this way. There's a way to conduct business that actually respects human rights and doesn't do this shit. We say that unequal exchange is the problem will let's force laws that mandate equal exchange. If Company X wants to source a given raw material from Country Y then let them pay a fair price for it and let that country demand that full labor protections are being met. Also from whatever first-world country company X is domiciled in (if they are from the West), they will be required to adhere to strict labor and environmental provisions anywhere in the world or they shall lose their charter. Of course the devil's in the details and these laws are meaningless unless they're enforced but let's presume proper enforcement occurs. If it does then the system will work well. Don't you see that it starts with the right laws? Business isn't inherently unethical or unjust but it is if it abuses labor and harms the environment. I mean business is really just trade and trade has always existed in one form or another. We need laws which fully protect all workers and the local environment. Now that's easier said than done but it's certainly not impossible. I guess I just disagree with people who take a more extreme view. Some forms of business are certainly harmful but that doesn't mean that we can't eventually prevent this. If business is properly regulated and controlled it can benefit everyone. If I do business with you in a small way and we both come away satisfied with the transaction you wouldn't say that was a bad thing right?
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  49.  @DeoMachina  I mean there's a small class of the super rapacious elite but that doesn't mean every business owner is like that. Most are just average people trying to find a small measure of success. We can't take them like that today. It would be nice if we could but honestly we really can't. We can have a more ideal world but no there isn't anything wrong with private business provided it isn't allowed to get too large and it's properly controlled. That's my agenda. Wouldn't you like to have a successful regional business? A successful family business?? I would. You would treat your employees well you would probably make them co-partners I know I would. Well maybe we just have to fight as hard as they do and be as determined as they are I mean there it is. If this is a battle of wills then we need to resolve to be in it for as long as it takes. If it's nothing more than a battle of wills then it's up to us to send a message that we can hang in as long as it takes because this is the right way to ensure society is structured so that it benefits everyone and not just those at the top. Small medium and non-malignant larger businesses aren't the problem. There is a small elite that is the problem but I don't know if that's ever going to be able to be fully gotten beyond, however I believe they can mitigated. There will always be that small number of people who are very greedy and only care about money. However eventually we can get laws which protect the rights of everyone and their impact will be relatively limited.
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  52.  @jessl1934  bruh idek. It just seems like in an information world (DC freaks notwithstanding) provided we get our message out to enough people and get organized enough, enough awareness will be raised and honestly any kind of armed backlash from the fascists or the entrenched elite class will be obsolete. I just don't think it will work anymore. You get enough groundswell with something and you're not going to be able to stop it I don't give a fuk how many nukes or bluepigs you have. If we want to go hardcore where is our secret army??? Right now we're just a citizens movement and that's fine, that's where everything starts. But that's all we got, which I figure given enough time and organizations should be enough. If not we'll find out but in a new century with new technologies and a lot of new people sick of old bullshit, I think so. After DC gets its ass kicked by Brics in 20 yrs because it won't leave them alone, I think most people, of those who are paying attention, are going to see just how ridiculous the feds are and are going to reject violence as acceptable means of solving our problems. I mean I could be wrong but I think so. Of those who can be induced to vote or have political opinions, I think more and more are going to realize that only leftism is the moral way forward because it puts the common good and the health of the planet first, and why should anything else be acceptable?? How can there be anything else that is sustainable? And I know I'm annoying some people with the follow but I'm also for business but I'm for regulated business, a big difference in my opinion, because not all business is bad- we live in a messy world and it would be too onerous to expect everything to be centrally managed. If we can't get it done through slower political means that I'm not sure how we expect to. We don't have a secret army you know what I mean? Organization, outreach, building a movement, using technology, yeah I think it's totally doable. Quantum computers are on the horizon and fusion technology possibly by 2100- Rosa Luxemburg couldn't have imagined this world and I don't know I just think a world this connected isn't going to always behave the exact same way as a world whose highest technology was the early internal combustion engine.
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