Ficus-lovin\x27 Capybara N\x27 pals • 🌟 • 25 yrs ago
Hakim
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Comments by "Ficus-lovin\x27 Capybara N\x27 pals • 🌟 • 25 yrs ago" (@YourCapybaraAmigo_17yrsago) on "\"We need a mixture of Capitalism AND Socialism\" - BULLS#*T" video.
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Hakim I think you're great but life is complicated. The modern world is more complicated than ever. Economies are not simple things and are going to need a mixture of nationalization, private ownership and worker ownership, imo. This is going to sound cheesy but I think life is similar to golf in that there's not one golf club that works in every situation. I see something as complicated and multifaceted as a national or local economy as something that should be diverse and flexible in order to meet the needs of everyone. Even under private ownership, it doesn't mean Labor can't be protected and get their full profit shares, provided their rights are spelled out in the law.
That's where I'm at with it.
I think when we're younger it's easy to fall into a little bit of magical thinking "well what if ONLY we just had this" and I know how tempting that can be and I really appreciate the enthusiasm that young people bring, I mean it wasn't all that long ago for me I'm only 41, but you know when you do get a little older than you kind of realize okay, we have certain restraints on us just by the reality we live in, huge systems are already in place and they have their inertia and their protections, but that certainly doesn't mean we can't apply ourselves in the most efficient ways to try to achieve our desired outcomes.
Why don't we start by goals that we can achieve in our lifetime?? Full comprehensive labor rights under law. More welfare, for lack of a better word. Ethical tax reform. Comprehensive environmental safeguards. Green energy plus nuclear energy support. Justice issues, which will vary from country to country. (Do women even have anything approaching equal rights in the middle-east yet? I'm honestly asking- in the US it's gross racial issues)
I'm willing to hear criticisms of this approach but in reality, what else is there?? Anyhow for people who want to make real change we can always try. We got to try to come up through the existing system however. At least for now. Who knows where things will be in 20 years or 50 years, more options may be possible, but now we have to start where we're at. Meaning for me we have to try the political approach because really we don't have the means to force anything else- yet. That's just how I see it. I think a revolutionary agenda can be achieved more than one way.
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@ttmfndng201 maybe someday but not all business owners are bad. Some have worked hard to get to where they are, I can't ignore that. Sometimes they do provide a good idea or two. Some have real respect for their staff. We can't ignore that. It's not as simple as owners bad, workers good. Ofc workers are good, but not all owners are bad. You got small business, midrange local chains, small corps, and then the multinationals, who are indeed the enemy. The smaller players aren't all bad and many strive to run a fair business. Think of private preschools, doggy day cares and local furniture chains or eateries, the local photo store, the local glassworks studio, the local non-corporate market..... And etc. I have a big business problem - but I can't say I have a business problem period, bec that wouldn't make sense.
Do workers need profit share? Yes of course. Without a doubt. More guarantees and protections? Yes of course. All specified in exact detail in law.
I think there needs to be a limit on corporate business size, without a doubt, say 5000 persons, 100 locations. Not sure if this be done they legislation but I'm willing to try.
It's possible. Without a secret store of nukes we're stuck having to try to use the political process. I believe it's very possible to propagate legislation forward but it takes a long-term strategy. Ballot measures can help .... There are steep barriers yes, but that's why we need to organize and reorganize.... And organize again.
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@jessl1934 bruh idek. It just seems like in an information world (DC freaks notwithstanding) provided we get our message out to enough people and get organized enough, enough awareness will be raised and honestly any kind of armed backlash from the fascists or the entrenched elite class will be obsolete. I just don't think it will work anymore.
You get enough groundswell with something and you're not going to be able to stop it I don't give a fuk how many nukes or bluepigs you have.
If we want to go hardcore where is our secret army??? Right now we're just a citizens movement and that's fine, that's where everything starts. But that's all we got, which I figure given enough time and organizations should be enough. If not we'll find out but in a new century with new technologies and a lot of new people sick of old bullshit, I think so.
After DC gets its ass kicked by Brics in 20 yrs because it won't leave them alone, I think most people, of those who are paying attention, are going to see just how ridiculous the feds are and are going to reject violence as acceptable means of solving our problems.
I mean I could be wrong but I think so.
Of those who can be induced to vote or have political opinions, I think more and more are going to realize that only leftism is the moral way forward because it puts the common good and the health of the planet first, and why should anything else be acceptable?? How can there be anything else that is sustainable? And I know I'm annoying some people with the follow but I'm also for business but I'm for regulated business, a big difference in my opinion, because not all business is bad- we live in a messy world and it would be too onerous to expect everything to be centrally managed.
If we can't get it done through slower political means that I'm not sure how we expect to. We don't have a secret army you know what I mean?
Organization, outreach, building a movement, using technology, yeah I think it's totally doable. Quantum computers are on the horizon and fusion technology possibly by 2100- Rosa Luxemburg couldn't have imagined this world and I don't know I just think a world this connected isn't going to always behave the exact same way as a world whose highest technology was the early internal combustion engine.
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