Ficus-lovin\x27 Capybara N\x27 pals • 🌟 • 25 yrs ago
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Comments by "Ficus-lovin\x27 Capybara N\x27 pals • 🌟 • 25 yrs ago" (@YourCapybaraAmigo_17yrsago) on "How This Billionaire Couple STOLE California's Water Supply | The Class Room ft. @SecondThought" video.
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@tanawilliams7498 well that's well said.
I'm happy to try to work to build up a workable third party but will take time and no guarantee it will be able to change anything. We should still try, but in the meantime we have the same problem.
Yeah it sucks balls. It's a tough one. How to get politicos that aren't in it for themselves, don't want bribes, don't want cushy jobs as lobbyists themselves down the line, and how to stop or at least limit big business from having their lobbyist orderlies write the laws that then get rubber stamped????
Man I straight up don't know.
IS there a way??? I hope so. But your guess is as good as mine.
If politico will ALWAYS sell themselves the highest bidder, then the only surefire way that we have a voice is to demand full direct democracy. EVERYTHING has to be ratified through a public vote or originate thru a ballot measure.
Of course that would take a change in law in the legislature. Lol and when would they vote to remove their own influence? Pretty doubtful.
But IF a ballot measure was put forth under ballot measure rules to insist on those changes and call for a changing to the CA constitution, which necessitates a public vote, it may be possible.
I'd have to look into that because it seems the only way.
Same for insisting on uniform election standards, paper ballots, and strict limits on public campaign financing. The crooks will never vote to un-crook themselves but maybe if Left groups organize together and try to get it passed as a BI, a ballot initiative it may work. I'm sure they'd try to stop it somehow but if all the rules are being followed about BIs, I don't see how legally they could.
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@sodman4874 well without being legally sanctioned by a judge it's hard. If a group of people try to march on Nestle for instance, they would just call the local cops and say 'hey we're being threatened by these people we demand to be defended' and next thing you know cops show up and order everybody to disperse or threaten trespassing charges.
Protests matter. I could see a citizens' movement being made right outside the front gate of every Nestle facility that's using water taken from the local aquifer. I would definitely support something like that so long as the people involved are in it for the long haul and know that they may have to be there for months and months before anything happens. The problem is these big corporations expect to be protected by either local cops or the national guard. If they feel threatened they get special treatment that we as citizens don't have access to. If they feel threatened they'll just straight up call 911 or the mayor's office and the cops will rush over like they're defending the baby Jesus. Local cops don't care about their local community. They don't care where the orders come from. They are robots and they'll follow any order they're given because one, it's much easier than thinking for themselves and two, it's easier than having to work. And that's exactly why they became street cops to begin with. You do NO work, you get a good paycheck, and you pretty much have legal impunity from any bad behavior. What more could it good-for-nothing want?
Street cops are the laziest bitches EVER!! They do NO work and just menace people for a living. (Truthfully they shouldn't exist but people have been brainwashed for so long that they're necessary for safety sl they keep getting funded and re-funded and so on.)
So if they're ordered to go protect the Nestle plant from local citizens demanding action, they'll do it.
If they're it's a larger movement depending on how far it goes, Nestle might call up the governor's office and request backup by the National Guard and most likely the governor will only be too happy to grant their request, cuz all governors in this country are exceedingly corrupt and super bought-and-paid-for by billionaires and large corporations.
So any large corporate boss knows that all he has to do is call the local mayor or governor for some muscle and they'll get it.
So it's definitely an uphill battle to fight these kinds of interests because they have access to support systems that we don't have.
Still, sooner or later we should fight them. Doing nothing should not be an option. We can fight them on the street and we can also take them to court. Both ways are important and both ways matter. I would say the courts are probably the one to focus on more just because protests on the street can be forcibly dispersed by cops if they choose to, although if it's a large enough crowd the cops may have less success. Also, provided the protesters aren't on privately property, the cops have no legal basis for ordering any removal.
But I would say to focus on lawsuits and courtroom battles is the way to go. I wish we could overwhelm these folks with force but we just don't have it. Most people aren't plugged into this these issues. It is possible we could temporarily take over a plant if we had enough numbers however eventually, a local SWAT team or the National Guard would just remove those people.
So fighting these people in the courtrooms is the way to go. And it may take a very long time because obviously Nestle has very deep pockets but as far as I know that's the only other option. Sure a group could do guerilla terrorist actions such as stealth bombings and such on their property, taking care to avoid any human life, but Nestle would probably just step up security in response to that. I doubt that would be enough on its own to force them to shut down that particular location. Nonetheless for me it's a great adjunct tactic to deploy in addition to a long-term courtroom strategy.
And that's how you got to do it. It's kind of a triumvirate. Organized public protests, guerilla tactics possibly, and long-term lawsuits.
Does that help?
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We need to though (discriminate based on wealth) especially when it comes to fundamental resources like water. We're not talking about Big Macs here. It is a fundamental principle of humanist socialism that every human being who is alive should have access to clean water, enough food, decent housing, educational opportunities, medical care, social welfare care, and so on. These are my values.
Learn more about these issues and realize that thinking WE might be in their shoes someday is a harmful and deceptive belief prevents us from taking necessary action right now that benefits thousands or millions. It is a virtual statistical impossibility that any human being will become a multi-millionaire or billionaire, but even if it's true that a very few might end up with that kind of wealth, that still does not give them a right to monopolize a basic resource, at the cost of many thousands.
Also, I do not believe that any human being should be legally allowed to accumulate that much wealth in the first place. They don't need it and they'll never need it, so for me, that makes it morally wrong. I support legal limits on personal wealth and business size.
We all deserve a fair share to the resources out here. Nobody has the right to monopolize large swaths of our water supply. Water is a fundamental human need and a human right for all people. We need to distribute it fairly and equitably for all farmers and all our communities.
Bottom line, these people shouldn't be setting water policy or anything else. Neither they nor other elites or large corporations deserve preferential or monopolistic water privileges.
Watch more videos about these topics you'll see that and many of the elites are robbing the rest of us by buying off politicians in order to hog up huge chunks of water resources, or to demanding unfairly generous business deals or loosening of business restrictions which always end up harming the environment, the community, other industry competitors, or the state as a whole. Just keep learning more about this subjects. It's important information to be aware of.
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