Comments by "Ficus-lovin\x27 Capybara N\x27 pals • 🌟 • 25 yrs ago" (@YourCapybaraAmigo_17yrsago) on "Why the Justice System is Broken" video.
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@suhsnow yeah but do they? I wouldn't trust anybody behind a badge in this country. Just last year the LAPD responded to a report of a minor incident in a department store with a slightly agitated patron, a blue thug showed up and shot him for no reason, and then also accidentally killed a young girl because he shot into a busy store not looking where he was shooting and the bullet unintentionally went into a nearby dressing room where the girl was changing. I think the family is currently suing the department. But even if they win, and I'm sure they will that's not going to bring their daughter back. This kind of gross negligence is common with these psychos.
I'm sure that cop hasn't even been so much as reprimanded much less charged with negligent homicide or gross irresponsibility with a weapon. It is the LAPD after all, one of this country's most violent publicly-funded gangs.
I'm sure occasionally cops take down a shooter but I've also heard too many disturbing reports of where they literally just won't act. They literally will stand around and doing nothing while people die. They will refuse to do their job and they will never pay a price for it. The one time we need them to LEAP into action and supposedly use their training to stop a dangerous deranged killer, they do nothing.
These people don't care if we live or die, they are textbooks sociopaths. Look up the 77 minutes case and by now I'm sure you've heard of the crime against the community that happened in Uvalde last year??? There was a teenaged shooter who was holed up in a classroom shooting kids and for almost eighty minutes almost 400,yes you heard me right that's 400 badge thugs refused to move a muscle to step in. They did absolutely nothing and not a single one of them feel guilty about it. More kids died because they stood around and did absolutely nothing for over an hour. There was 376, yes this can be verified easily, 376 human fking beings who were armed and had law enforcement and public safety training on scene that day!
Also there was a similar incident at a McDonald's near the Mexican border in San Diego in 1980. Now maybe these are just isolated incidents, I would like to believe that, but the fact they can happen at all tells us something. It tells us that we CANNOT trust these pieces of shit who claim they care about us in any way, shape, or form. They exist to steal from us, exploit us and run right over us if they perceive doing so as being some kind of a benefit or career boost.
There are no good people behind the badge in the US, I wish there was and good luck finding them I hope you can, because to this day I have never seen nor heard of them. I wish it was different but I don't have the luxury of hiding from the truth. As far as I'm concerned they're all a bunch of opportunistic jerks, violent thugs, or trigger-happy nutjobs.
Edit: if there are good ones then I will recognize that but I don't hear any good stories I only hear bad stories. Not to mention my own limited experience with these people, mainly small-time types but they were still assholes who caused me problems for no other reason than because they could. It's all very pointless.
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@KingJuggernaux333 he's probably not actually traumatized; what he's saying is that it was a jarring and upsetting interaction.
My problem is your justification of the act of treating homeless like they're less than human and forcing them to leave where there are safe and aren't bothering anyone just because it's fun to pick on the weak and hurt someone in need. So you're sort of obliquely justifying sadism. Do you think people who need to sleep in their car out of necessity should be treated like animals?? Like trash?? Like vermin???? Is the mere act of temporarily being homeless mean you're not human anymore? You have no rights??? No needs??? You're somehow a criminal?? Somebody's the victim of YOUR homelessness now- but not you- right??? Because God forbid you're temporarily in financial need, so you should be treated in a dehumanizing manner??? Walmart has huge parking lots with so many places to go on the outskirts of those lots that wouldn't bother anyone but a person shouldn't be allowed because they should be treated like an animal..... because they're homeless right??!!????? Those spaces can be used to help people in serious need but they shouldn't because the homeless should be killed off right?? If you're homeless you're somehow not human and you shouldn't be able to sleep at night, right?? The cop should come around and just torment you all night by making you do dehumanizing things, is that right? Cuz if you're homeless you're not really human right? Everybody should turn you away, you shouldn't be able to sleep ANYWHERE, you should just be forced to walk until you drop then you should DIE because you became HOMELESS and that meant you're not HUMAN.
Right!??!!!!!?!? RIGHT!!!!???????!!?!
How comfortable, protected, easy, perfect, cosseted, privileged and lucky has your life been so far that you can be so dismissive to those that have known struggle???
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Punishing people with extreme censure for minor violations including including shoplifting or being late to an appointment is one of these monsters favorite things to do.
Yes shoplifting is a misdemeanor but it will stay on someone's record for up to three years in most municipalities which means it's possible for future employers to discriminate based on that. They shouldn't be able to but I've known people it's happened to. So for some tiny shoplifting nonsense, it can potentially keep you unemployed and broke. So if you want someone to become financially self-sufficient where they won't be tempted to shoplift, is setting them up for unemployment and homelessness really the way to do that? DOES THAT MAKE SENSE??? It's so disgusting. But they always want more feesh meat sacrifices to enter into the prison system. Their dream is to lock up 50% of the population. I believe they're deeply unhappy with their current levels of incarceration, they want extra supermassive incarceration, simple mass incarceration isn't enough for them. These are monsters who are possessed of an evil that we cannot fathom. They are all the devil's payroll.
Now you can see the inherent immorality and stupidity and cruelty of the system. It's shockingly immoral. It's all about cutting people's legs out from under them, then blaming THEM for not being able to walk, then locking them up for as long as possible. They do this in California with disgusting efficiency. Nobody seems willing or able to stop it. It's amazing because evil keeps winning on a large scale and it really is in mindfuck. The satanic demons won't be happy until there's a prison on every corner and everybody that country and their cousin is behind bars.
Shoplifting doesn't hurt stores. I understand that it is an annoyance but it doesn't hurt the stores and no one should have to be punished for it.
Negligible amounts of inventory loss are the cost of doing business and if stores don't like it, they can close. It's that simple. Government has no obligation to protect the stores greed or guarantee their profits. Sure, there's consequences for high-level theft, but petty floor theft shouldn't fact be treated that way. A given business's profits are business owners responsibility, not Uncle Sam. What about that free market they love to claim we should have? The free market includes ebbs and flows, including sales going up and down, customers making choices where they want to shop, and a small amount of leak. Stores owners really are pathetic people because they're so greedy they see every lost dime as an outrage and they want govt to destroy shoplifters as if the shoplifters were professional thieves taking their entire billion-dollar inventory and bank account. It's MADNESS.
Bottom line, shoplifting isn't a crime. It just isn't. The store's can afford to part with this material. it's not going to hurt their overall bottom line in any significant way. It's always less than 1% of their total sales which negligible amount, something they should just get over, accept and move on from. Besides, they'll have loss insurance so for them to get their panties in a bunch over the losses they claim they suffer from shoplifting, just shows them to be the disgusting liars that they are. Stores do not suffer from shoplifting, and that's a fact. So shoplifting should not be criminalized at all, it just kicks people in the mouth who are desperate and trying to survive and that's shameful.
Desperate people shouldn't have their futures thrown in the shitter just cuz they took a few petty items from the store that most likely that the store would have thrown out anyway. Stores waste a mind-boggling amount of inventory, which should be illegal because those things could go towards a needy family in their community. Useful items and food should never be allowed to be legally wasted by choice. There should be steep penalties for this.
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My close friend lost 18 years to the satanic Three Strikes law in California. His "strikes" were minor weed possession and two petty thefts. One charge was not legal to be used as a strike, yet it was.
For that, a satanic judge very happily gave him 28 years to LIFE. For nothing. Not a rape, not a murder, just a satanic law. For this sentence, for doing nothing more than ever smoking weed and having two petty thefts, he was placed into a maximum-security prison for his entire 18 years with many actual violent offenders where he was given next to no opportunities to better himself. He's doing ok today and just trying to move forward with his life but because the lock-up system in California was so unfathomably evil, he ended up losing half his adult life to a cage, and for what heinous offenses? Nothing more than weed use, some drug use, and petty thefts. The system is and was bound and determined to destroy him and anyone like him by any means necessary; through manufactured parole violations or probation violations they looked for any excuse to lock this man up over and over and over again. His PO went out of his way to try to harm his housing and employment opportunities. They were down there way to find incredibly minor violations and then give him up to two extra years in prison for absolute nonsense non-violations. When I tell you these people are pure evil believe me I know what I'm talking about. I know I use the words a lot but it's because words start to fail when I try to report on the pure hatred of the monsters who work within the system to try to destroy people. I wish I could find other ways to describe them, but I don't have the best vocabulary.
They saw this man as a target from Day 1 and they all zoned in on him. You who don't know anyone who's been touched by the system CANNOT understand the hate that lives inside the heart of every PO, every CO, every judge, most metro cops, and every DA. They see a Black person and all they think is "torture, throw away, seek and destroy". I'm not exaggerating- talk to those who have survived the system. They'll tell you. The Pigs who put them there are absolute monsters and if you're Black they WILL force any charge on you, you won't be able to defend yourself once in court, and the DA will try to come after you for the worst possible outcome to scare you into taking a plea. Next thing you know you're doing 2 to 10 years behind bars for either nothing at all, or a minor incident where you weren't guilty of anything more than possibly yelling at your girlfriend. And if there is a female involved, NOT underage, then they'll try to get you for a sex offender charge even though you did nothing wrong. It's happened to deserve for people I know, coincidentally, POC. Those of you who haven't had any contact with the the system CANNOT understand it- I don't mean to be hyperbolic it's just that I have seen so much either firsthand or closely secondhand and it is as bad or evil as you can possibly imagine.
My friend has been made extremely poor through this process. He is able to survive on benefits today but isn't able to work the way he was before he was locked up or even five years ago. He would like to work again but he would need to improve his basic stamina, strength and energy first. Those aspects of health became more difficult to maintain the longer one is on a dialysis program, and he's been attending for nine years so far.
When he was detained I don't even think they allowed him to attend his parents' funerals. I mean you think you've known evil, and then you see the monsters who run these prisons and sit in our state Congressional halls. Maybe this is hyperbolic but it's also true, Satan owns this country through and fucking through.
He now deals with health issues due to getting older and has to undergo kidney dialysis due to not getting adequate treatment for yellow fever when he was in state prison.
He is brave and just tries not to focus on it too much and live in the present, but the California courts destroyed his entire adult life time and again for no reason at all. He lost everything he ever owned, he hasn't been able to buy a house yet (though he might be able to in the future) and all for what?? To fill a cage? To fill a cell with an innocent person? And who benefited from this- that's all I want to know. Who benefitted from this?!?
I frequently fantasize about hunting that judge down and blowing him to hell, or choking him out with my bare two hands. I have a feeling he's still alive. Evil has staying power. I want to be the reason he leaves this world and wakes up in hell.
So tell me this isn't the devil's agenda. Satan is some kind of all-powerful superbeing and he hates humanity with a passion that is unfathomable to us and he comes up with many ways and many agendas to destroy human lives.
Every DA is the devil's child, every judge, every cop who willingly participates in this system to destroy a maximum number of human lives, especially Black lives, I hope get the full measure of their evil upon their death. I hope in the afterlife they learn true pain. Let them see what it's like.
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@chrisperez3614 yes that's what usually happens. I'm sorry it happened to you. Our system is evil through and through. Unless you're privileged enough to afford a fancy lawyer you're fucked, my close friend found this out firsthand in a series of injustices is that I think even you would find hard to believe. PDs are worthless in this country. Either they care but don't have the bandwidth to handle all the cases that they're assigned, or they don't care, or they are too afraid to care. One of the above.
But think about it, if you wanted to design a system that was breathlessly efficient, one that was truly sociopathic in its efficiency at being a mass-production/mass incarceration system, you would create the one that we have, would you not??? Of course you would.
I can't even imagine another system that's EASIER to get caught up in, HARDER to defend yourself from and HARDER to get out of once you're caught up in it.
I'm not saying the truly guilty and truly dangerous shouldn't be held accountable, but we really have a system designed by very smart sadists. How many hundreds of thousands of decent people are caught up as meat sacrifices to this system????? It's happened to several people close to me. It's this massive evil that continues to just have this dark power and recharge year after year. It's been at least 40 years now since official mass incarceration began, but even before there were gross abuses and injustices. Sadly the US has always been an extremely savage barbaric country run by sadists, barbarians and evildoers at all levels who see human beings as easy objects to exploit and take advantage of.
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Why should anyone be locked up for using drugs??
We don't demonize alcoholics why do we demonize drug users???
I'm never understand why drugs came to be the big demon in this country... well actually I do know why. They couldn't subjugate thousands and thousands of poor people and POC without it. They could never sustain mass incarceration without it. It's literally the ONLY way we could have this satanic police-state we have now. It's the only way they could destroy thousands of lives with relatively little effort. Don't you see the only reason exists to subjugate millions of people, esp POC? If you don't see that as it's true agenda then you're just not looking close enough.
Drug addiction is unfortunate but that's why treatment exists. Nobody should be locked up for selling drugs to freewill buyers who choose to use. ITS THEIR BODY. Unless you want to bring back slavery, the government has no right to tell you how to use your own body and what you can and cannot consume. I mean it's just not a crime, I just don't know what else to say. It's a free will choice, nobody's forcing anyone to get involved who doesn't want to, I mean that's all there is to it.
Drugs are the only weapon this satanic Big Brother has against us to come in, steal everything we have and destroy our entire communities. It's truly mind-boggling what they've been able to get away with it these last 40 to 50-odd years.
Literally without trying to hunt down drugs Big Brother would have NO power to steal and destroy. And that is something they cannot live with. Our government is a satanic entity with only one goal- to steal and destroy as it wishes. I mean they have successfully demonized one of god's most precious plants ffs .... People are so weak-minded they still got people out here today believing there's something harmful about cannabis, that's how successful the last 50-years of rampant Uncle Sam shameless lies have been.
We with live free or we remain slaves for the rest of our lives. With mass incarceration as Slavery 2.0, we are STILL not free and that goes for poor white people as well, and it's only getting worse. Local, state, and federal agencies, local PDs, and various courts are full of those who want to control us and destroy people for fun. It's a sport to them. They have no respect and they have no conscience. This is all a fun day at the office for them.
I'm a libertarian and semi-anarchist and I think people should live free with as little government interference on the individual and community as possible. We REALLY don't need government in our lives at ALL other than to provide the bare minimum of a court system for us to report a genuine act of violence against us if it happens (and a few other limited functions). Just think about that. The more you expect some outside authority to be your Nanny/mommy and daddy the more they will continually take more power and easily abuse you with it.
I'm not saying let's have zero government at all, that's just not realistic and even if it was it wouldn't happen here because there are too many damn power-hungry predators here, but definitely I would wish to see a much much MUCH smaller boot than we have now, in fact really a non-existent boot. If we need help from the government that's something WE should be initiating, not the reverse. I don't believe the State has the right to initiate Force, for ANY reason other than rescue of human life.
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I won't go so far as to say we shouldn't have any prisons bc there are genuine violent predators out there, a small number, that do need to be separated from the rest of society so they can't hurt anyone, ie serial killers, unrepented serial rapists, unrepentant DV abusers,, unrepentant child abusers, etc. You know, that group of people. But we both know that is not the majority of people are behind bars right now. We both know why our prisons in the US exist and why these crazy Pig Gestapos exist. What anyone of conscience wants to see is that prisons as we know them are ended and replaced with rehabilitative colonies. That's all. Communities which exist behind a wall where those who have proven their trustworthiness can be given work release and furlough. These are places where rehabilitation happens, not brutality. People are treated humanely, people are not abused or neglected or harmed. These places are where people are given every opportunity to improve themselves and get any help they may need. If someone is truly unreachable or incorrigible or "evil" for lack of a better word than fine, we can quarantine them for the rest of their life, but we still should do so under humane conditions. For all we know they are deeply mentally ill. Yes I think evil is real, however, I think deep and profound mental illness is much more common. Also we need to be much more abhorrent in the future about who we give prison sentences to. Human dignity needs to start to matter in in this fourth-world country. Right now we hand out prison sentences like candy and it's disgusting.
Yep I'm motherfuking disgusted. Beyond disgusted. Outraged really. So many POC and poor people have lost so many years to this ugly system at all for what? So some evil worthless prison guard can have a job?? Goddammit fuck that!!!
There were deep abuses prior to 1980 but this has all been going on mainly in the last 43 years ONLY. That's five years longer than I've been alive.
So just remember everyone, it hasn't always been like this, AND IT COULD CHANGE TOMORROW!
Change can happen in our lifetime and if we stay on the subject, if we stay put, if we organize and if some of us who really really really are committed to this issue STAY committed, we might have a chance of rolling back at least some of it in our lifetime. I live for that chance.
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@OrinSorinson I think out of all the monstrosities that these demons do, I think that's the one that sickens me the most. They hate to work with a blinding passion, their intrinsic laziness is beyond compare (I guess that's why they chose the job of a parasite, they don't have to work for 20-years while they get to suck off the taxpayer and then they get to suck off the taxpayer again in retirement), they're monsters who won't lift a finger to do anything!! maybe they won't even lift a finger to save their own life if it came down to it. I mean they're categorically opposed to exerting ANY effort whatsoever even though that's what they're being paid for. I don't know how to wrap my head around it.... Do you???? It's not about them doing violence on the street, tho some do, it's about their utter criminal negligence from start to end.
The Chicago PD wanted to go after Jussie Smollett for $10,000 and I some short time in jail because he made them work!!! Yeah he made a false report and he shouldn't have done that but big deal. Those Pigs are getting paid to sit ON their ass and commit evil either by omission or commission, and because they had to do 5 minutes of work he's the bad guy????
I'm sure him being black and gay didn't help CPD filth have any regard for him.
People think they would be terrified with no police precincts but I mean, are we any better off WITH them!?!? I fail to see how!!! The people who wear the badge in this country are Satan's soldiers- they don't give a living fuck about you and never will! Ask how many victims of DV felt like they could turn to their local police filth for help????
If there's somebody out there who has been actually helped by a capable investigation I want to meet them!!!!! I've never heard from them, not once!
I heard a case on an ID channel show where she was viciously attacked by a knife-wielding psychopath I think it was one of her ex's, she fought him off and no choice but to kill him in self-defense in order to protect her and her son, and so of course when it was all over she called the local police. She explained everything that happened. They questioned her and opened an investigation. These sub-human took six months to close this investigation. There was nothing to do! Everything in her story would instantly check out, she had no reason to lie to them. How long does it take to verify a crime scene, verify the veracity of the person reporting the crime, check what whatever little detail still needs to be checked which shouldn't be extreme, and close the fucking case!!! This poor woman had to wait 6 months before they closed the case, and fully cleared her from any liability..
Could you imagine having to wait that long after you've already been traumatized because a maniac attacked you and try to kill you and your child?? No I can't imagine that because I've never lived through it and he seems so extreme.
My point is that police are such demon dogs that they will take the most open-and-shut simple tastes and should take them 3 days at most to close a week at the outside and intentionally drag it out for 6 months were no doubt they did absolutely nothing all the file set on their desk while they took a piss on it every day and then they decided to call it closed six months down the road. There was nothing in this particular woman situation that would have justified anything near that amount of time.
These psychopaths will utterly refuse to help you even if you're dying and if they are working on an investigation will make sure they'll take a two-day case and stretch it out for 6-12 months. I guess so long as they could claim to have an open case when their Chief comes around to check on them, they can make it look like they're working on something when they aren't.
It's utterly gobsmacking.
Let's admit it – the ONLY reason Police department's exist is for show. It's the convince the safe white liberals who live in or around the suburbs that "their authorities are hard at work protecting them and making them safe so they better keep voting for whoever their local and state representatives!"
Let's just all admit it to ourselves, we'll all feel better: police gangs and police departments are 99.99% for show. When it comes time for them to do any work or to help us these psychopaths will be able to sleep perfectly well at night utterly refusing even when the victims are CHILDREN (Uvalde school shooting).
I wouldn't mind a state agency dedicated to Public Safety if those in it had a conscience and did their jobs!. Is that what happens with our local PDs? I don't think so. I've never heard a single positive report of somebody who was grateful to have called 911, who received all of the support and help they were looking for plus more, and or somebody who worked with detectives and felt that they aggressively pursued their case and did all they could to try to find the right person who did the crime.
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Perhaps a 100% police-free society is unrealistic, but we can certainly prohibit all street occupation and Blue crime number one (the "roadside rackets" aka traffic stops are CRIME [extortion, harassment, intimidation, theft, arbitrary detention, violence, etc], patrols outside of 911 should be absolutely prohibited, it should not be legal or acceptable for any cop to initiate unwanted contact with any citizen for any reason who isn't presenting an immediate danger to anyone), and instantly demand MUCH higher entrance standards, quality of training, training length, ongoing training evaluations, and actual legal accountability (details on what this requires to follow). All Pigs should should be required to be fully licensed and carry personal insurance. If they are accused and convicted of wrongdoing they pay out of their own pocket.
If this isn't sufficient, the city will pay the remainder.
Right now they are completely lawless and immune from any civil prosecution as well. I find this evil, outrageous, disgusting, and enraging.
I also support a maximum time limit how long one can work in the profession, I set it at 10 years. Why treat it as a career? Take away the retirement incentive and I think the coasting smart-ass abusive types won't be drawn to it because they know they won't be able to skate for 20 years and then enjoy it a nice pension for the rest of their life.
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@SuperDuckyWho I mean you could report it to the police but it would be medical personnel who would take the rape kit and try to give you treatment and comfort.
We just don't have many people if any in uniform who are professional, trained, intelligent, rational, compassionate or anything. If we did maybe things could be different but I have yet to see people like that in this country behind a badge. They might exist somewhere I just haven't been made aware of them yet.
Those people who say that to you are strange. The police aren't going away, at least yet, the point is just to try to delegate as many calls as possible to trained community workers instead of them. Most police don't need to take these calls- they've shown how they have no patience and no empathy and they don't care about trying to help somebody, usually; the moment they get the tiny bit inconvenienced they're just going to shoot somebody so they could go on to the next call or go home. When you don't really have a conscience or empathy these things are easy. I don't know if they're all evil per se or simply empathy-challenged.
Unless it's literally an active shooter or a report of a robbery in progress or kidnapping or a hostage situation or severe DV, what do you really need the police for? I mean what do you need them for?? Most 911 calls are non-violent; they're not serious and they can be handled by people trained in conflict resolution and deescalation. Nine times out of ten that's not a Blue in this country.
All cops know how to do is arrest somebody- is there any for the adrenaline rush or the action they're never going to try to deescalate or simply talk somebody down- they literally don't know anything else. They're trained to do only two things in this country- throw cuffs on somebody and take him to jail and book them for something, or kill them. That's really it. They're not trying to care, they're not trained to deescalate, they're not trained to do any of that. Obviously this is a major problem. So until we decide to start training these people and have actual standards for entry, we need to find an alternative, and that alternative is social workers or community workers.
I mean a "good" person will take the time to try to talk somebody down, but I don't believe there's that many good people behind the badge. Most of them just seem not to care or to be actively unstable or have anger issues.
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@samspade8830 there's always some kind of abuse or mistreatment going on behind bars in our prisons. You may not be as aware of it as I, but I've been following now this issue for a good 10 years. It comes in a lot of ways. Unjust policies at the prison, lack of enough prison staff, forced work crews in exploitive conditions, financial exploitation out the wazoo, documented sexual assaults from staff, abusive treatment from guards, I mean the list just goes on. I'm not saying it happens to every inmate, some are lucky and are able to do their time in peace and go home relatively unharmed. But others are not so lucky. Had a friend of mine who was saddled with a horrifically unjust 20 year sentence for nothing; I talk about that elsewhere, he sustained an extreme assault by two guards one day, which left him with pretty serious injuries, all of which he did eventually recover from, and when he tried to report it he was quickly transferred to another facility. That's another thing that the prisons like to do a lot- they'll just transfer you around like a hot potato for no reason at all because they know it's disorienting to you and you have to get re-established each time and that can be quite an effort, and you're also leaving any friends behind so it's going to be painful to you. they do it to silence any inmates that may want to come forward about abuse or mistreatment. Did you watch the whole video to the end, because it talks about this. I already knew about it but it does discuss it in the video. I call it the Hot Potato Shuffle. Prisons love doing and it should be illegal. Once an inmate is assigned to a facility they shouldn't be transferred against their will to any other facility unless there's some legitimate need.
Getting accountability for abusive and/or violent prison staff is almost impossible for inmates. I could try to help him file a lawsuit now but I'm not sure if there's a statute of limitations in place, but it's something we may try in the future. Either way, it's definitely impossible for inmates to report abuse and mistreatment and get appropriate action while they're behind bars.
There's a large class-action lawsuit going on right now for female victims of past sexual assaults by male guards at Chowchilla women's prison in California. It's been going on for decades and nobody did anything because nobody valued the lives of those women, most of whom were black and brown and poor, and were there for poverty-related reasons or drugs, or occasionally for killing their abuser. See, in our justice system the victims get no empathy, only blame. A person who was in an abusive relationship has every right to blow the hell out of their abuser if the abuse is severe and chronic. If that abuser refuses to stop or get help, then they should forfeit their right to live. It's only fair. You shouldn't be able to get away with constantly beating on someone or sexually assaulting them. I'm sorry, that's just not right that anybody should have. You have no right to cause others to live in constant fear of your violence. So if a woman feels like she cannot leave, or she already tried and he came after her, then yes she has the right to fight back and defend herself and her children.
However the system blames the victim for that homicide calling it a murder. This is wrong.
And even now when all of these women are coming forward they're still not being respected as full human beings with rights. This class action lawsuit is being strangled by a restrictive time period for filing. That is one way that dirty judges disempower past victims from trying to get their full restitution. By placing a time limitation on this class action lawsuit that minimizes the amount of victims that will learn about it and thus be able to come forward within the necessary time frame. This is why statutes of limitations are totally unjust. These kinds of class action lawsuits seeking compensation for past sexual abuse should never have an expiration date or a ticking timer set on them- that is completely unjust. The same thing applies for lawsuits against corporate polluters and violators.
So this comment was kind of all over the place but the things I said are true.
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@samspade8830 sure I agree I'm sure sometimes people do a bad thing for a selfish reason. They know if they get caught there's going to be a consequence. But it shouldn't be years and years. Provided they don't shoot anyone or deliberately escalate the situation, I'll be willing to let someone go with no more than one year for an armed robbery incident.. During that time I would make all resources available to them and let them know they need to find a more constructive path. I would connect them to school programs, job training and benefit assistance if they need it. If they do it again they know that they're liable to face a harsher consequence next time- but even so, unless somebody was killed or seriously roughed-up I would not apply a long sentence. Sometimes it takes people a while to get the point, to break old habits and form a new identity for themselves. Sometimes it takes people screwing up more than once to turn things around.
I agree we have some good public assistance programs here and they are a lifeline for millions of families but I can tell you from experience they are definitely not always sufficient. They do help but there's a lot of issues with those programs; for various administrative reasons a lot of people who really need them sometimes cannot get them. They often don't go far enough. If we want to truly end poverty and insecurity in this country there are few key things that we could do tomorrow.
Specifically these are: raise wages to at least $24/hr, severely control rent, provide housing guarantees, provide more food assistance, provide more mental health support, provide guaranteed childcare and preschool, provide transportation assistance, provide low-cost or free college and skilled training programs, and provide guaranteed medical care, plus generalized infrastructure repair everywhere. These are the material logistics that are necessary to end the poverty rate in this country. It's about guaranteeing basic opportunities and resources to communities that have been denied them for too long. When you provide people with the tools they need to succeed in life very few will reject them.
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@GeorgeLiquor who said anything about having zero police, courts and prisons? That probably wouldn't work. In a small community it could work, but in a large complex modern society that wouldn't work- a minimum of those is necessary for the rare violent crimes.
But they can be cut way back, minimized, and subject to much heavier oversight. I would like to change a lot about how our courts are run, jury procedures, how judges are selected, number of judges on the bench, severely limiting the prosecutor's power, changes to reqd standards for criminal investigations, etcetera. All drug laws need to be repealed. I would institute sweeping sentencing reform.
The Blue street punks who prowl the street need to be abolished, I would abolish that today. That kind of prowling in our community is absolutely unacceptable. The roadside rackets by Pigs are piracy and crime, that needs to stop. I'm shocked they're still getting away with it honestly. Emergency responders can be kept for actual emergencies and the majority of calls can be handled by trained community workers. In this way we almost entirely abolish police as we know them, only using them for those very rare cases that need a quick armed response.
Most prisons can be shut down but we can keep a minimum number for genuine cases of real crimes. We should certainly reform conditions within prisons and all prison procedures.
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I mean I don't even feel that way (safe) and I'm an average-sized W lady. I won't say every average street cop is violent because that hasn't been my experience but they are assholes. They have no business being out there and they're looking for money that's what it comes down to. That, and someone to fuck with, usually someone homeless. They're looking to steal from you, either your vehicle if they can find some minor violation, or your money through a ticket extortion or even perhaps a on-site theft of whatever money you have on you after they intimidate you into an illegal and violative vehicle search.
The only time that I'm not worried is if I'm driving past in a car and they're clearly not paying any attention to me.
It's sad that so-called security officers or safety officers in this country make exactly no one feel safe. It's because most of them are sociopaths, many of them are predators, and they are in a criminal gang bound on exploitation, harm and grand larceny. Yes there are detectives who are supposed to investigate alleged crimes but let's just look at this comment section, how many people have felt validated, respected, and treated respectfully by responding officers and/or detectives?? I'm not hearing one story to that end. It may be happening somewhere and I hope it is, but I just never get to hear about it.
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@barrypoontang I've had nothing but extreme problems from Street blues when they have initiated unwanted contact with me. I haven't needed them for a damn thing and my life would be supremely better off if I'd never crossed paths with any of them. When they come up to you on the street, they intend to steal something from you, push you around, violate your civil rights or cause you some other kind of aggravation, harassment, or harm. They're never there just to say hello so don't buy their bogus, obvious, insincere buddy-buddy attitude. It's insulting. They are a criminal/crooked syndicate in my eyes, nothing more.
Edit: I guess I feel I should say that sure sometimes a few them probably do try to help or are not overly abusive. Okay that's great really, I want to make it clear that I recognized the possibility of that, it is just my opinion but that rarely happens and that it's much more common that every single time they initiate contact with someone on the street it's for an overtly negative reason that I will call either unjustified or unethical. For those who respond to 911 calls responsibly and try to handle it without an arrest or force, unless it's unavoidable, and treat everyone on scene with some basic courtesy and dont end up making anything worse or act annoyed that they were even asked to show up as I've heard many times, then I thank them. Unfortunately it is just my belief that this is all too rare.
At a minimum in clear cases were obvious misconduct happened I want to see heads roll and they don't. Also the entire practice of what I call the "roadside racket", AKA patrols AKA traffic stops, I find outrageous from a moral perspective, I do feel it violates the Constitution clearly, and Im stunned that it's still legal. But we know I actually go because they intercept a huge amount of cash and valuables that way and they can easily find people to give a spurious arrest to that way. And one of their main objectives is to keep those jail cells full. If you take a look inside your local county jail at any given time, 99.9% of people are there for silly/minor charges, usually missing a court date for a similarly minor case, or just some general nonsense. Someone can ask, well why are they there at all? Well to make money of course. Not everyone brought to jail will be assessed bail, but many will. A full jail cell is in the court's eyes another opportunity to assess bail, which is how they make money.
I support the complete abolishment of all bail because it's a massive financial incentive and inducement to maximize arrests, which keeps the stupid cop-pigs on the street patrolling looking for easy targets, usually the poor and homeless. Street cops are nothing if not lazy to the extreme and they'll always choose the path of least resistance. And if someone really IS danger to the community they shouldn't be able to buy their way out! So any way you analyze it I find the very concept and practice of bail atrocious. It absolutely harms and penalizes poor people and it's just not morally justifiable.
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@alexalbuquerquerodriguesal108 thanks so much for this intelligent and articulate reply. That's impressive. And if you're in your early 20s that's even more impressive. I had low to no awareness of social issues in early 20s. Yes I forgot Brazil did have that military dictatorship back then. That must have been pleasant. I can't even imagine what that would even feel like. Such a thing would be quite unimaginable here. I may look up some of the some of the facts about that piece of Brazil's history, I'm a little curious now.
I agree with you with the rest. The demonization of minorities, refusal of those in positions of power to take aggressive steps on providing equal opportunity and closing the inequality gap, etc. I am worried about the fate of Brazil's indigenous populations. Ever since Bolsonaro was elected I heard that he was willingly allowing ruthless mining interests to kill them and the fires to burn in the Amazon. God, fascists are insane. Their only desire is to kill and destroy. What a crazy bastard. I don't know their current status or what steps are being currently taken to protect them and Amazon, if any. I know Lulu isn't perfect but perhaps he can try to help?
Not really related to anything, I had a chance to visit Rio for few days quite some time ago. I know there's a lot of poverty there but I did appreciate it, it was pretty special. I took many fantastic photos. I was actually in the Navy at the time. This was in 2004. It's hard to believe it's almost been 20 years. Sometimes when naval ships port in sensitive areas they're given special instructions. Our instructions were to go nowhere by ourselves and only travel in groups of six or more. They actually wouldn't let us to disembark unless we could point to a group we were in. I pretended to be in one group and that went off by myself lol.
I had a good time. I didn't run into any problems. I actually can't remember everything I did it even though it was four days... Which is odd . I only remember traveling to the top of the Sugarloaf mountain, visiting the Christ statue, and walking some of the side streets just to get a feel of the area. I know I had to do more than that because we were there for four days but I can't remember anything else. But I definitely appreciate it and stop over at the chance to get to know the city a little bit.
Some of us talked about possibly trying to plan a visit in the near future after we returned to the States, but unfortunately that never happened.
We have poverty hete, far too much, but I'm not aware of any place where you can look up in the hills and see favela districts. It's interesting here that it's kind of the reverse of what I saw in Rio, the more desired and fashionable locations for wealthy homes is often in hilly or secluded areas, a low-income neighborhood would more likely be down towards the city center. The more removed or suburban a home is here, usually indicates a higher value. There is definitely quite a bit of rural poverty here unfortunately but those are usually in areas that have a low population density and are quite rural overall. When a secluded or natural area surrounds a major city though, those properties are usually for the wealthier citizens. Think the Hollywood Hills or similar.
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@lillia5333 I believe that if someone is truly evil or criminally insane no amount of harsh treatment is going to change them, so why traumatize and brutalize everyone else for that tiny minority that can't change? And for that other majority who CAN improve and CAN reform (not to mention that percentage that doesn't even belong there, which is a big percentage here in this country in my belief), why shouldn't we have humane and positive conditions in these detention facilities?? By neglecting or abusing these people we are just maximizing the chance that they're going to reoffend either in prison or the moment they get out. Even from a totally selfish perspective, is this even smart?? If the end goal is to maintain supermassive incarceration in the answer is yes, but for anyone else who has a conscience and a sense of right and wrong, this pattern is not acceptable.
I see no reason why all the detention centers (prisons) can't be reasonably comfortable behind the wall where everyone is allowed to move freely and have some kind of a life. Also, why does everything have to be a concrete cell? I know, I know- in this country's human rights don't matter and it's all about what saves the most bank, but I'm done with that. Why can't we have dorms? They don't have to be fancy but can't they be comfortable in a simple and basic way?? Can't they be like sort of basic mini dorm-style apartments?? Why is that so unheard-of???
I have seen some cells in some reality shows that actually didn't look too terrible but we don't have to keep doing this. We can just use normal rooms. I mean why is that unthinkable?? Normal rooms- normal beds, carpet on the floor, a desk, a window, some shelves, why is this impossible??
And if the goal is to protect society from those who have chosen violence or done something harmful, then one, separation is the goal and that is achieved with pleasant or unpleasant conditions, and two, I know everyone here wants to fixate on punishment but why not allow these people to have a semi-normal life while they're doing their time?? As far as I'm concerned, all prisons here should be no more than minimum security. The wall will be full security but inside, the grounds should be decent and in the style of our current minimum security facilities- or even better. If they need to have a small area that's dedicated to higher security, that's fine but that shouldn't be the condition of the whole facility.
That's my vision for the future. Nobody's saying build a luxury camp for so-called inmates, we are just saying make it humane, tolerable and dare I say, positive?? You know, like a community college campus. What's wrong with that?? One with ample green space and access to nature and the outdoors.
Neglecting, abusing and warehousing people with little access to positive activity and forcing them to live in shit conditions is in no way going to help them rehabilitate or improve! Look, separating them from their family community and giving them time to serve, I think is punishment enough. Treating them inhumanely is just wrong. I have seen no evidence that intentionally unkind or cruel treatment of inmates ever leads to better behavior or better long-term outcome.
And like I said, for those who are genuinely evil (quote unquote) barbaric or inhumane treatment isn't going to make any difference on them anyways, so why allow that to be the standard. Why not treat everyone humanely and give the most of them a chance at getting better? That's my philosophy and it seems the most commonsense one to me.
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To OP: just like on a local level, state lockup is a vast moneymaking scheme. As you state, EVERY aspect and step in the process is based on maximum extraction and extortion.
It's a genius system if one is a sociopath and sees poor humans as cargo to be maximally exploited.
Notice how often well-off or rich people end up behind bars - it's virtually a non-happening.
Yes the reforms I would make are vast starting with taking ALL of the profit motive and profiteering out of the system -ALL of it, from BAIL, to county court fees to state fees to prison fees to phone fees to commissary fees to all the specific work crew-based fees you bring up here. It's ALL dirty and it's all about financial plundering and it's just gross and I'm just sick of it. There's so much about our lockup system that violates human rights with abandon.
Companies make a killing using pseudo-slave labor and and inmates are saddled with small or large mountains of debt that can follow them outside the prison walls.
Yes I intend to stop this, by doing whatever I can. If if the state claims someone deserves to be detained, they shouldn't be able to make a goddamn penny off of them! So much for being about Justice and Public Safety, I think we see the true motivating reason behind maximum Lockup in the US. Besides generalized racism, it's naked profit, what else? Sure, it costs states billions to keep the maximum lockup racket going but clearly they feel they end up in the positive after they've soaked all the state inmates and county inmates for as much as they can.
Prison debt is routinely used in shitholes like Florida not to give someone's voting rights back to them. So there's also that, although I know not every state does that. But it is done in some.
It's all about keeping the hard boot of savagery and suppression on a permanent underclass- mostly POC and poor people.
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@jskyg68 a lot of our laws are unjust, most sentences are evil and are are done to provide maximum sadism and crush the human spirit, we have mass incarceration as a policy goal which is evil, most people currently behind bars DON'T belong there, too many prisons do not provide adequate or humane conditions and rehabilitation opportunities, the sadism in our system is increasing, abuse behind bars by prison guards is common, be it physical or sexual, policies used to extend people sentences once they're behind bars are common, debt slavery is frequently applied to inmates both inside and outside the prison grounds, the policies once someone comes out of prison are as inhumane as they were previously, people are routinely denied employment and enrichment opportunities simply due to a past conviction which is cruel and immoral, parole is an evil tool of oppression used to lock people up for longer and send people back to prison on the cruel whims of a power-tripping PO, private for-profit prisons exist, this alone is vile, profiteering exists before during and after Lockup in a million ways, Pigs are rewarded for how many people they arrest and charge, many of these charges are patently false or exaggerated. They're nothing but slave-catchers and jail fillers- they intentionally target black and poor communities at far higher rates than anyone else.
Need more? If you think any of these statements that I just made are in anyway morally acceptable, then you definitely have a problem with your moral outlook on life.
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@youtubesucksbutts I would be willing to hear that argument but if they paid for their mistake and made a reasonable restitution, idk I think people should be allowed to continue on with their life without any restrictions. If they pull a fast one again after time #2 then I could understand saying " ok you're doing this again, we don't like this, therefore we're going to take away your right to work in this field". But if it's their first conviction, where they make a proper payment for whatever they did wrong, then I don't have a problem with them going back into the same field because they might be ready to play it straight now and I certainly want to give them that chance. Some might say that's too forgiving but but I don't think so because that's what making restitution is for, you screw up, you pay your price, you start over..... Isn't that how it's supposed to work? if somebody makes proper restitution for their mistake then that needs to count. So I say all rights and privileges should be be restored once somebody makes a proper payment for what they've done. I'm sure there's room for a gray area and discussion of opposing viewpoints but this is my founding principle that I base my view of fairness on.
We all screw up, the only question is to what degree and are we going to be caught? None of us are perfect, even Jesus said so (im not religious). Provided we don't do something truly heinous, as long as we're willing to pay the price for our screw-up, that should be enough shouldn't it??
As for binding restrictions going forward I would need to have a longer discussion and break it down by each group of crimes/violations. I'm sure there's some limited cases where they may be justified but in general I don't want to have them.
So I would certainly consider exceptions but by and large if someone's paid their price and the price was fair then yes I want to see them go on with their life as if nothing happened. But I understand the argument for those exceptions.
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@jskyg68 okay I'll say this I partially understand where you're coming from, but by the same token, if there are problems with the way cops conduct themselves or if we oppose the whole damn system then it's incumbent upon us to try to unite and do what we can to change it. I know people are afraid of disorder and they think if we don't have this all-powerful blue gestapo that we have to comply with it allll times things will get out of control but I DON'T agree with that. I know there's a way to provide for basic public safety without trampling all over people's civil freaking rights. The question you raise is, should resisting arrest and fighting back against a police person be sanctioned? Yes I think so. These assholes start bogus interactions all the time and I don't feel like they should be impune from getting put in their place. If any police agency is intervening in a genuinely violent situation nobody would oppose them. But if you got these POS street punks initiating contact for no reason, or trying to make an unnecessary or an oppressive arrest, or everything else they try to get away with yes, I'm sick of it and I think people should certainly be able to defend themselves against Blue aggression. I don't think blue aggression should be sanctioned at all. This is the problem we have, it IS sanctioned and they're told they have every right to initiate force and mistreatment. This is the fundamental gross conceptual error I have with what these crooked politicians think.
I oppose policing in all forms. Policing is the active initiation of State force or police contact where it is unwanted.
This isn't the same as defending the public against a violent attacker- this is totally different.
The libertarians make a crucial distinction between defensive force and initiated force. They are right. There are exactly right. There was a dividing line between what kinds of force are acceptable in a civil society. Blue punks shouldn't be allowed to roam the streets seeking whom they may harm, rob, harass, spuriously arrest, kill, or mess with. It's not okay. It's wrong.
We need to end policing 100% everywhere today now. 911 yes, POLICING NO. That's the problem isn't it?? we have all been brainwashed to accept this constant violation of our rights by be forced to accept street occupation and Street extortion and piracy (the "roadside racket").
fyi sometimes people do get away from fleeing police if they have a big enough head start and they're fast enough. it happens occasionally. If you're in the middle of an unwanted police interaction it's usually best and easiest just to go along with it, even if it's wrong and imo it usually is, but I can't blame someone for trying to make a break for it if they think they can make it. It should NEVER be legal to kill a fleeing suspect, this is just an obvious fact that certainly shouldn't need any debate. Killing a fleeing suspect is definitely murder. You're shooting someone in the BACK deliberately, in the wild West that used to be a hanging offense, the worst offense possible. It still should. Cops have been trained to have no respect for life, this needs to change. None of us should find this acceptable.
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@Kyarrix (long post)
Part 1-
I can appreciate this point of view. I wish I could be less cynical, I would like to be, but it's hard given to apparent ratio of 99% scumbag pigs to that 1% who generally have empathy for the fellow man and do their best not to violate others' rights. And you know, try to help. I would love to believe that we all live in the Adam-12 or Officer Barbrady universe but we both know that's not true. Until we make incredible structural changes to our entire police selection, training, screening, and management system, nothing will change.
Until we make them answerable to somebody besides the local DA (the local elected sociopath) and themselves, nothing will change. We all know they will shamelessly lie and cover up for each other. Gangs protect their own. Imagine literally being so above any authority you get to investigate yourself with a sham department. I love it! If I was an unethical crooked abusive SOB I'd know where I want to work!! Get to be a parasite for 20 years and then get a sweet retirement? Nothing could be better!
The older I get the more politically radicalized I become. It just seems to be happening to me without my intent- I don't feel like I'm doing anything to honestly direct it. I just wake up one day and I can see things I couldn't see before and and all of a sudden I'm mad as hell. Ten years ago I wouldn't stress about stuff like this at all. It was nice not being aware, I often wish I could go back to those days. But now at 42 I'm old and crusty and can see it all so I can't unring that bell so I just have to go forward.
People need liberation and autonomy and that means the State needs to be either crushed, or barring that, deeply minimized. Will happen in my lifetime? No, but we can lay the seeds, or we can at least try.
I don't think there are any good police out there- there are less aggressive or more laid-back ones but they will still F you over if given half a chance.... They are programmed to do so and even if they don't do it with aggression or violence they're incapable of NOT doing it. I've had cops arrest me in a friendly manner before- I went along it smoothly - it was for stupid bench warrant for a petty case. And then I resumed my life. But it was unnecessary and the warrant never should have existed because the court case never should have existed. But none of these little road piglets could stop themselves from aggressing into my life even in a civil manner. Of course I made it easy for them as I was homeless at the time, an absolute favorite choice target of road porcine. Like moths to a flame they are powerless to resist the siren call of "fucking with the helpless destitute homeless person who's trying to exist peacefully and unobtrusively, a true public threat!". Yep, outstanding serving and protecting right there! Absolutely outstanding- come on let's double, no triple, that budget! F the schools - let's build a bigger center for these uneducated slackjaws!
Filth can't help bullying the weak, it's the only thing they live for.
I love farm piglets but road piglets need to be destroyed. They're doing a very bad thing, and if they had any personal ethics they would stop.
We all know how the courts operate- they're goddamn money making scam, so is county jail, so is bail, so is everything, and it's gross and I WILL fight it. I don't stay on yt all day I actually do things. I hope to place myself in a position one day to have a chance of bringing this criminal racket to a screeching halt.
I take the completely radical view (although I don't think it should be considered radical) that 99% of what we've come to expect as police work shouldn't even exist because it's wrong and abusive and unnecessary and it abrogates people's rights. Will I ever be able to change this completely? Probably not in my lifetime but I prefer to have these views that not have them, if for no other reason than they exercise my mind. And I will indeed do my level best in my lifetime to force these changes on a local level. I will organize, I will push for ballot measures, maybe run for office, maybe, and of course individual and class-action lawsuits are a perennial way to to try to shut this shit down.
I'm becoming more rabidly libertarian with every passing day it seems. I'm not saying there should be no public management aka "govt" I am just saying I'm coming to hate the State more with every passing day because, and your opinion as an attorney would be interesting to me, I don't believe people should have masters. I don't think people should live in pseudoslavery. I don't think poverty should be a crime. I don't think the corporate State should rule all. I don't think we should live under blue gestapo occupation of our roadways and highways.
In short government as practiced in the US is pretty effing gross most of it should not exist.
This doesn't mean anything goes. Nobody wants that, just most things go. Commonsense limitations apply ie, respect others property and respect their physical person. I would also add to respect the environment and the health of our communities, something every large corporation routinely violates on the daily and of course face no punishment for it because we live under the boot of the ruthless corporate State buttressed by politicians who are worthless puppets not public servants.
And that's just lame.
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@Kyarrix Part 2-
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Occasionally government's crimes against the People also go ruthlessly unpunished, IE the Flint water l soft genocide. The sociopaths who were the architects of that are living free as a bird today. They didn't even bother covering up the cover-up. You think the criminal fbi is going to do shit???? That's a good one! The FBI has the biggest thug game around. Same for DOJ. Those people don't work for us, they work for Wall Street.
It's hard facing evil. The advantage evil has is its utter lack of moral limitation of any kind. It's quite an advantage.. quite an advantage indeed.
Politics in this country is a show, it's a sport or entertainment. We don't have any say over what happens accept on limited ballot measures, the politicians are puppets and who pulls the strings? Well besides BlackRock, the big Banks and the big corporations. A few billionaires thrown in for fun. Who else?
Local mayors seem to be totally sociopathic and only care about pleasing the top 5% in their area, chiefly the rapacious real estate developers. God it's so shit. That's certainly true here in San Diego. This entire county has extortionate rent, a coincidence? Of course not. When your entire political club is for sale to the highest bidder, how can it be otherwise?
I want to drive a stake into the police state and the dominance of big money on a local level. I don't know if I'll ever be able to do so but I'm trying to strategize a way. It's so trash, and it needs to stop. Unfortunately the bootlickers seem to be a loyal and plentiful group, but they can be gotten around. Like somebody once said, there's a slave born every minute. Okay, a sucker- but same thing.
As I tend to repeat myself, I'll always admit that skilled 911 response is occasionally necessary, however having a roaming Street Gestapo is amoral and must be obliterated with nuclear efficiency. The Blues don't answer to anyone and this is obscene.
We can change this TODAY. We can reform all our public safety measures and destroy the incarceration state. Mass incarceration is ugly and a crime against humanity and why do we keep doing this? Close down 95% of prisons and send everyone home NOW TODAY. This needs to happen. The jail guard sadists are going to have to find someone else to brutalize and sexually assault.
Someone like me who sees the State as an 85-95% harmful entity will naturally run up against the dominant narrative of the need for State control that we've been fed most of our life.
Free simplify our legal code and only have corrective measures in place for a relatively small number of laws, then I believe for once, a civilized society can prevail. I see only a few genuine crimes, arms against a person, arms against another person's assets (but we can't use this as an excuse to have disgusting IP bogus overreach like we have now), harms against the environment including animal species, or harms against the community as a collective body.
Nowhere in this paradigm does anything justify restrictions on the autonomy of the individual. A person's body is their own, no human being or a State has the right to restrict how one uses it or what one puts in it at any time. How about the right to participate in consenting business ventures that do not harm another person? This includes the drug trade, the private trade of alcohol manufacture, forest goods, and so on. Perhaps if individuals had hard-and-fast civil rights in this country and not just rights of the filthy corporation, we could have a civil society based on human values for a change. The liberty of the individual to CHOOSE, to organize and do business has been trampled on a long time ago, not to mention the rights of Labor, oh boy, has that been shredded to the bone. We're all just corporate slaves now, the corporate State has many gestapo to ruthlessly enforce their will. This is gross. I will fight it, for whatever little bit I can do in my lifetime. Then I'll reincarnate and do it again.
Everyone knows it's not right to initiate unjustified violence on another or take what is theirs. Nobody would argue against consequences for that- provided they were fair. So funny how the Constitution has been turned into toilet paper in this country, the only maxim today's justice system adheres to is "definitely MUST do cruel and unusual punishment". And they do so joyfully because they're all sadists.
Laws should be simple, FEW, and based on universal moral principles that virtually everyone can agree on. Consequences should exist, but be humane and fair and adequate.
But thanks for your time. I'm sure as an attorney you're pretty busy. So you say that you are a justice-minded individual, does this mean you do pro bono??
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@Kyarrix I just now saw your additions. Please don't hold me in a literal way to these percentages, obviously it would be impossible for me to know an exact percentage of security personnel who I feel are "bad" especially since bad is a subjective term. I was being a little tongue in cheek there, but it is my opinion that the large majority of badge-toters are trash people who lack any internal set of moral principles and enjoy causing great harm to others. Either that, or they don't have any self-awareness whatsoever. Is that wrong of me?? I mean... It depends how much you believe the copaganda out there. People have been brainwashed by Hollywood to see these people as god-heroes and so some will of course we'll take issue with me on that, but it's because they've never lived the reality of an urban youth or a poor person or been the victims of these kunts and the oppressive and abusive jail and prison systems that they enable. In the 1800's Pigs were slave-catchers. Now, a lot of them aren't much different. They're slave catchers for the mass incarceration machine. It's pretty sad. Nobody's seen don't catch the genuine predators who have no desire to change, but the vast majority of people Street Porks go after are harmless people, they're just too poor to afford a fancy-pants lawyer to get themselves out of whatever bogus charge they're being r4ped with.
I do believe we need to abolish the police as we know them, and replace them with an extremely limited 'safety force' that is held to extreme standards of accountability and responsibility. Also any Street patrols are evil by their nature and should never be tolerated by anyone a civil and free society. State agents should ONLY respond when they are called, they should NEVER be allowed to initiate unwanted contact. To do otherwise places us in an extremely submissive and subjugated status and I'm unwilling to accept that under any conditions, there's just no way. And I'll be fighting for this for the rest of my life.
Neoliberals love licking the police boot. I don't think you're a neoliberal but I feel your career has brought you in extreme and frequent contact with genetic neoliberals and privileged kunts have no idea what it's like for the rest of us and the other half.
I don't know if I said it in this comments string but I try to address the issue of police abolition/fundamental change with nuance and as much distinction as I'm capable of in other comment sections.
I take issue with a large majority of our laws, it starts there. So long as we live under a tiny super amoral corrupt hyper-elite group of puppet slaves AKA politicians we will never be the masters of our own destinies. Anything short of full direct democracy or every Law & policy has to be ratified by a majority of the public, isn't acceptable to me.
So long as we have blue gestapo who are going to carry out with ruthless efficiency anything the political filth ink into so-called law we're going to have a problem. That means if the politicians band the eating of bananas tomorrow to pigs would only two joyfully going around cracking people heads and throwing people behind bars for eating bananas. Do you not see where there's instantly sets up tyranny and evil?? Neoliberals presume all of our laws are just, when I say most of our laws are NOT just and many of them are very tyrannical or very wrong.
I guess it take issue with the very concept of a coercive dictating government itself.
I'm somewhat of an anarchist, I'm somewhat of a minarchist, a great deal of a left libertarian, and an autonomist. Yes we need to drown government in the bathtub but from a civil freedom point of view, not from a laissez-faire point of view. Laissez-faire only helps the top 1%, and we're all living with the consequences of that immorality. We certainly need reasonable controls on the private sector, that should go without saying. Social provisions, etc. But control of the individual? That should be almost nonexistent. Many communities know how to handle their problems themselves, if anyone feels that someone is harming them and they want help from the State they certainly know how to dial 911 or find a police precinct, but in no way should State thugs enter our communities or neighborhoods declaring our associations and our ways of handling her own internal matters are criminal or unacceptable by their tyrant standards. It's none of their goddamn business!!!! If govt thugs can leave corporations alone, they can leave our neighborhoods and communities alone today!!!! If someone is genuinely being harmed they should always be rescued, but again I stress, everyone knows how to call for help if they need it. Everyone knows where to go to report an alleged crime. Estate agents have no right to initiate Force for any reason, outside of rescue, or two into our communities or clubs or malicious or political groups with the aim of abatement, arrest, or other hostile act. People say games in the inner-city need to be dealt with, my responses why? Who's forcing you to join? It is a volunteer organization that in most cases doesn't export violence. If they do exporting violence then yes they should be dealt with probably, but they don't in general export violence. If there is violence is usually contained internally. It's not a government matter unless somebody wants to report a kidnapping a sexual assault or something of the like. Obviously all drive-by shootings and violence towards innocent bystanders should not be tolerated, this goes for any gang or any association.
The problem with the sick filthy feds is that they feel that OUR property and assets are their property and assets and that OUR private business is their business. It's just beyond all reason. They want to control everybody and everything and it's entirely 1984 and it needs to stop. I'm far from the only one who feels like this. There are many thousands of others like me who refuse to accept aggressive State authority, we just won't. We'll die first and we're not afraid of prison. I know I'm not. We're not saying you should be allowed to harm others, that is not in our agenda in anyway, but we do demand literally self mastership and self ownership. Bending the knee to government feels is not in our agenda. Forced taxation in most cases is wrong- but there's nuance to this issue when I go into it in detail elsewhere. Everything the way government is handled right now is nothing but warmed over gross tyranny. So I'm with a group that's going to push back against that no matter what it takes. Politicians are pathetic filth who are bought and paid for by elite money, who would only too gladly sell their sister for a dollar, and the presumption that I should passively accept them as my masters I find astonishing. No thanks lol. My civil libertarian heart isn't going to bend for anyone.
Ultimately its about how much State Force do we feel is acceptable. How much government am I supposed to get on my knees for? And I draw the line extremely narrowly. I want the absolute LEAST government that's possible within an organized society, and I feel that's a very small amount, and I talk about that more elsewhere. We need government on the corporation, and that's about it. Any government on the individual beyond the bare necessity of saying "don't hurt others, don't take what isn't yours, don't pollute, fair IP law", is unacceptable in my view.
I won't say we're to the point where we need zero organized state force, because there are those rare circumstances when there may be no choice but to deploy armed persons but those cases are rare. The large majority of 911 calls that cops are currently deployed to can be taken over by empathetic, responsible and trained community workers.
Our national policy should be MINIMUM incarceration not supermassive ever-growing incarceration. Humane rehabilitation and detention, not brutality and neglect.
Anyhow I can always go into more detail if you like, I'm sure we're both busy but these are issues that I feel passionately and deeply about so if you have any questions just ask.
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@Kyarrix I know we can have a valuable discussion because I appreciate your POV where you've seen things from the other side and so you have a valuable perspective. We don't have to agree on everything to have a productive discussion.
I'm under no fantasy that I'm going to be able to wave my magic want to change things the way I want them to be however I am making plans and decisions today that I hope will put me closer to a position where I can make some changes that I believe in.
I do oppose big brother in most things, I impose supermassive incarceration, I oppose inhumane detention, I oppose the way our courts are run and conducted, I oppose the existence of a city hall and not a "People's Hall", I oppose a disempowered public that doesn't vote on every issue, I oppose the lack of human rights being inked into law-
I guess you could say I oppose everything... Because I feel these things are inherently cruel and unjust. I oppose the corporate State, I oppose a 1984 State. I oppose all forms of non-defensive State violence.
I oppose rule of the 1%. I oppose representative rule AKA 'we should all just be passive slaves to punkass self-serving representatives who don't give an F about us and who take their orders from Wall Street and dark money'..
I see the need for radical change. I oppose the existence of masters and slaves under different labels. I oppose Pig rule. I oppose government control over all aspects of our lives. I oppose most forms of mandatory taxation- but not all, details matter, I explain this elsewhere. I oppose the idea that some people should be the subjects of others. With minor exception, NO class or group has the right to rule over another.
No one is inherently qualified to rule or obey.
I'm with the Communists, I'm with the anarchists, I'm with the libertarians, I'm with Labor, I'm with everyone that wants to shrink the State down to their rightful size. The abuse today is rife. Watch IFJ- I knew it was bad but I didn't know was that bad and I will eternally thank them for waking me up to the true scope of the abuse out here.
There's a place for organized public management (an alternative name for government), but it shouldn't be in service to Wall Street, rapacious real estate developers and gentrifiers, and a supermassive carceral tumoric complex with its loyal blue Nazis keeping its wheels turning.
Also with a simple changes all poverty could disappear tomorrow.
I love that you're an attorney and I hope I have what it takes to get my law degree too. I can't wait to be a broke-ass mf'er defending the disadvantaged from unjust charges. I mean they deserve help too, and they almost never can get it. PDs won't or can't help, another one of the ugly fatal flaws of our kangaroo court legal system- where DAs and judges reign supreme with unquestioned absolute power but defendants don't have the right for a vigorous capable defense- sometimes I wonder what century we're living in. If only we didn't have a third-world legal system in this so-called first-world country.
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