Comments by "David H" (@DavidHalko) on "How NATO Solves Its Abandonment Problem" video.
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@pmpowalisz - “you are ridiculously misinformed”
That is an ad-Hominem, a logical fallacy, a passive admission that you have a bankrupt position which can not be sustained in dialog.
I have been involved in the refugee community for 2 decades, before that, family lived there, and follow local news in foreign lands & personal life stories of escapees today.
I have a pretty good understanding, although I don’t know everything.
“extremely biased against Democrats”
I just call Democrats as I see them.
- The party of continual war
- The party of slavery
- The party who tried to split the Union, using the power of the gun, to keep slaving
- The party, who could not be coerced to stop slavery, until after they lost a civil war, and Republicans temporarily removed their states from the Union, to guarantee equal rights as per the Declaration of Independence
- The party who created gun control laws on a local level, to disarm freedmen, before their KKK community organizers would lynch the disarmed freedmen gun owners
- The party who introduced segregation into the federal government & revived the KKK during WW1
- The party who bragged about getting those N* to vote for them for 100 years
- The party of Nazi eugenics, who tried to sterilize & convince freed people to kill their own offspring through abortion
- The party who restarted the slave trade in Middle East & North Africa
- The party who had congressional law to intervene when terrorists annexed Iraq from Syria & refused to do anything
- The party who bankrolled Shia & Sunni international terrorism & armed Sunni Islamic Fascists
- The party who started shipping back fleeing Cuban refugees to Cuba, who arrive at the border, when fleeing Communism, but allowing everyone else in
- The party who is reintroducing racism into the Federal Government again, about 100 years later again, categorizing some people by genetic traits , to give them special privileges, and declaring other with different genetic traits have privilege & superiority
- The party who is now stopping refugees from Venezuela, from entering the United States along the Southern Border, fleeing Red Communism, but allowing everyone else in.
Democrats are not all this way, I know a lot of Democrats who are truly anti-war & anti-slavery & anti-racist & compassionate to immigrants… but they just don’t realize that the politicians they endorse have a different agenda.
“Extremely biased against… Shia followers”
Not at all!
When the terrorists took over Iran, they repressed the Shia peoples of Iran, from day-1.
Disagreeing with Islamists who conquered Shia peoples is not the same as bias against Shia people… I have very close relationships with many Shia people. Once I demonstrate a strong understanding of their history, they understand my perspective, even if we have different opinions, and the relationships continue (for decades.) We respect one another, even in areas where we disagree.
“no credible quotes”
When your good friend, who has Shia family members back home, had his brother disappear, and later government recovers his body from a mass grave, because Democrat Obama/Biden refused to hold the Iraqi border against the Islamic State soldiers who were invading with US training & US weapons… the DNA & weapons & training are credible sources.
When Democrat Obama/Biden decided to fund & train & arm many of those terrorists, who defected to the Islamic State, in order to carve out a Sunni homeland from the Shia governments of Syria & Iraq… one understands the mistake which was made.
Democrats wanted revolution. Sunni’s wanted regional independence. Either way it turned out, Genocide would be the result.
Primary sources, from human refugees, asylum seekers, broadcast video, local news… are stronger sources of evidence than people who have not lived or do not live or can not speak/read native languages.
I can back up everything that I have typed about with sources, if you like, but this may not be the right forum. I am willing, if you are interested.
“at least we agree on Putin…”
You will find it amazing, how much people of different economic & political persuasions can agree on, one we don’t attack the other person, and try to look at things objectively.
We also agreed on GW Bush’s mistake.
I find it disappointing that your historical perspective is sufficiently limited, where we can’t come to a reasonable understanding of some of the previous Democrat mistakes.
Democrats & Republicans all made decisions, some are poor, some are good.
The best decisions are made when people are trying to coerce you into something via a false dilemma, using a logical fallacy to make you do what they want.
Republican G W Bush fell for this. Republican Trump was more likely to find a different way, which infuriated the people on both sides, who would find profit from either-or decision, but they both get pissed when neither gets to profit from the decision. This is one of the reasons Trump was hated by Democrats & Republicans - he did not play their games. Trump being hated by both sides created a terrific check & balance, that we don’t have today with Democrat Biden, or previous Democrat Obama.
Trump did fall for a false dilemma during the pandemic, ceding too much power to Democrat leaning CDC, and it cost him his Presidency. Dumb move, to shut down the nation, with no quick way to unshut it (when the Democrat party of fear leveraged fear to coerce simple minded people into false dilemmas) sending unbelievable quantities of citizens into suicide, drug overdoses, students losing measurable man-months of education, creating unbelievable quantity of debt for our less-smart & smaller quantity of children to later pay back.
It might be good for you to better understand history, before accusing others of ignorance, or having bad feelings towards groups of people. Sometimes, we really just care about people, and don’t like when people are abused.
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@pmpowalisz - “did that New York Times article say the US government’s training and weapons program to Syrian rebels exist at the start of the Syrian civil war, I don’t think so.”
First of all, I don’t know how you could be 300+ messages into this thread and not read the news enough to understand what was said, even after I provided you name of the program, the administration who started it, the administration who canceled it, a trusted liberal source regarding it.
The math is pretty simple:
- 2011 - Syrian government ban on female veiling in universities enacted
- 2011 - Sunni protest break out
- 2011-2012 - Sunni military insurgency breaks out
- Summer 2012 - the period the NYTimes reports Arab states funding & weaponizing Syrian Civil War, US Democrat Obama CIA arranged weapons sales from Croatia to Saudi Arabia to Syrian rebels
- Summer 2012 - proposal by Obama CIA Director for Timber Sycamore Rebel training, but Obama initial turns him down (weaponizing the rebels seemingly was thought to be enough, from Croatia through Middle East ally to Syria Rebels)
- Late 2012 - date liberal NYTimes reports Obama CIA Director lectured Arab Allies on providing weapons to Syrian Rebels without coordination
- Late 2012 - lobbying from Jordan, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Israel (maybe others) eventually convince Obama to support the Syrian rebel groups with weapons & training - Operation Timber Sycamore identified with date, The Daily Beast
- 2012/2013 - Reuters, liberal The Guardian, German weekly Der Spiegel, are reporting the first 200 US funded & armed Rebels in Syria completed 3 months of training on 2013-03
- 2013 - liberal New York Times confirms US clandestine military training & weapons support took place, but reporters are too dumb to do the math since the first U.S. trained rebels had already been completed
There are more news paper reports of how the US was involved in the training & weaponizing of the Syrian Rebels. Someone has to be living under a rock to not understand what happened. It was one of the reasons the electorate turned on Democrats starting wars around the world towards Trump, to turn the war weaponizing & training & funding off.
“Why would Obama be so gun hoo in immediately supplying weapons to Syrian rebels when he only supplied non-weapons to Ukraine?”
This is a good question.
Why would Democrat Barack Hussein Obama supply weapons immediately to Sunnis in Syria to start a revolution and not to Ukraine being invaded?
This falls into the realm of speculation.
Maybe you should look to Egypt & the seating of largely Sunni Muslim Brotherhood leaders during his travels, just before the MB rise to power in Egypt?
The Sunni extremists in Egypt are, by some accounts, far more dangerous than Wahhabi of Saudi Arabia, since there is a degree of authority an absolute monarch has over them in Saudi Arabia. Once the dictator in Egypt was gone, the radicals are free to act, in a nation where Islam legally reigns supreme over a secular constitution.
I might suggest to you to read the history of Obama’s mother and her cooperation with Sunni Islamic revolutionary movements in Indonesia.
I had done extensive reading on this, pre-2008 election, in various Chinese state media, who at the time was pretty proud of the Sunni Islamists were put down in Indonesia, and Obama’s mother & CIA were on the losing end.
I might speculate, from Obama’s history, that Obama has a greater affinity towards Sunni Muslims than he does towards Eastern Europeans.
“The Iranian Prime Minister…”
Had a very short period of time in any kind of authority.
“The bay of pigs”
Was a failure by Democrat JFK, by pulling air support of an integrated operation, and the Cubans trying to take their nation back from a Communist revolutionary dictator lost.
Democrats did the same thing with Vietnam, after peace was signed under Republican Nixon, the North Vietnamese restarted the war under Republican Ford, and Democrats refused to supply funding for air support, as per the peace accord, and South Vietnam fell in weeks.
“… raising a stink about politicians and oil industry colluding to not keep oil prices constantly low”
Supply & Demand drives prices.
Raising a stink abroad is not helping that much for Democrat Biden, who previously cut the legs out of the energy industry in the US, by revoking permits and closing exploration. Energy is now 2x higher than it was under Republican Trump
“Simply absurd Americans have to pay high gas prices”
Agreed.
“Democrats aren’t destroying fossil fuel production, they are merely limiting it…”
Which creates high gas & plastics & asphalt & housing shingle & housing siding & floor planking prices… and many other oil derived goods.
By the way, I think Housing Prices also went up significantly, during the Democrat Biden administration.
“Environmentalism is a pretty big deal for Democrats…”
It is also a big deal for Conservatives & Republicans… we live in the same earth. Sometimes, people want the same ends, but with different means.
“pretending Covid-19 wasn’t a domestic problem”
The effort expended by Trump, with daily briefings, progress made on a daily basis, and making sure stockpiling was not interfering with availability of PPE was amazing, during his administration.
There was no pretending that it was not a problem.
“My mom…”
I am still sorry for your loss.
“most of the deaths were under trump”
Dec 14, 2021… liberal The Daily Beast publishes ‘800,000 Americans Dead: COVID Deaths Under Biden Now Equal Those Under Trump’
Dec 16, 2021… anti Trump National Review publishes ‘Covid-19 Deaths under Biden Surpass Deaths during Trump Administration’
With all the PPE, Vaccines, treatments, behavioral changes, and border security created during the Trump emergency actions… within 1 year, there was no reduction of deaths under Biden, just a doubling, and then increasing.
It could mean that PPE, Vaccines, behavioral changes, lockdowns, and Treatments meant nothing to stem the pandemic.
It could also mean that Democrat Biden ending border restrictions and sending millions of untested & sick migrants across the border on public transportation into the rest of the nation was a contributing factor for actually causing more deaths in the United States.
I tend to agree with you that vaccines & treatments were helpful in stemming Covid deaths.
This leaves Democrat Biden #SuperSpreader policy at the southern border at the core of why Covid deaths equaled Trump’s deaths within 11 months of Biden inauguration and then exceeded with 1 year.
“Trump not created a bogus treaty with the Taliban and pulled the US military…”
Military was not all pulled. Military was reduced under Trump after the agreement, and things continued to be stable, with no losses of US troops due to Taliban.
The major pull out of military support happened during the Democrat Biden administration. As military support was pulled back, Afghani region after region fell.
It was during the Biden administration that the US military base & airfield was given by Taliban to militaries of China, Iran, and Pakistan to use.
“could have lasted for decades… afghan people elect a functioning government”
This was the Trump plan, in writing.
Target times were given, dependent upon Taliban negotiations with Afghan government for a process.
But it did not work out the way US negotiators intended.
Democrat Biden decided to cut & run, said the Afghan government could hold it all together, the Afghan Government’s President’s son was a Democrat Biden Activist & Supporter, but Biden turned on him, Biden turned on the President of Afghanistan, Biden turned on the country of Afghanistan… and now Russia is hiring US trained Afghan special forces to fight in Ukraine.
“Trump’s final pullout deadline was in July”
The agreement literally said… ‘Coalition will complete the withdrawal of their remaining forces from Afghanistan within 14 months following the announcement of this joint declaration and the U.S.-Taliban agreement, and will withdraw all their forces from remaining bases, subject to the Taliban’s fulfillment of its commitments under the U.S.-Taliban agreement.’
So no, July was not a hard deadline.
The US could wait, indefinitely, ‘subject to the Taliban’s fulfillment of its commitments’, to negotiate with the Afghan government.
Democrat Biden pulled out, refusing to wait for Taliban & Afghan government negotiations to complete.
This is 100% of #CutAndRun Democrat Biden
“The worst thing I wrote about you were misinformed”
You did more than that. You omitted the word before “misinformed” in your accusation of me. You might want to see the accusations & attributions of my person to various unseemly groups. People can clearly read the thread. The personal belligerence towards myself from you is self evident.
So far, I have repeatedly updated nearly every point with citations from liberal news sources, your own standard, as well as primary sources (ie Joint Declaration between the Islamic Republic of Afghanistan and the United States of America for Bringing Peace to Afghanistan), so it is clear where the misinformation lies.
If you don’t like the way people treat you, perhaps you should treat them the way you would like to be treated (ie repeatedly referring to someone as “dummy”, “extreme”, “misinformed”, etc. does not help the cause for serious dialog.)
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@jordinagel1184 - “Trump discussed pulling out of NATO” after large European powers refused to live up to their end of the international treaty, for decades!
Trump gave them the ultimatum: live up to your end of the Treaty & not abandon it, or we will just acknowledge the major European nations leading & call it what it is… obsolete.
The reaction was clear: Trump moved US soldiers from nations, who were abandoning the NATO international treaty requirements, to nations who were meeting the NATO international treaty requirements.
Respect for international treaties, like NATO, comes from words & actions, and Trump threatened & punished nations who disrespected the Treaty, while rewarding nations who respected the treaty.
It was clear: NATO leadership needed to move East, as The Western nations of NATO refused to meet their treaty obligations.
Trump was right, and the nations not meeting their international obligations were wrong.
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@pmpowalisz - “Trump dealt with most dictators by saying kind words to them”
You mean like Obama, who bowed before the dictator of Saudi Arabia?
“straight up appeasing them”
Or Pelosi, who wore a head covering in Syria, where it was not customary for Christians to wear head coverings, before starting a civil war there?
“a sign of weakness”
Like Obama/Biden sending food & clothing as a sign of weakness, when Putin invaded Ukraine the first time?
Like Biden repeatedly promising not to send troops in an invasion by Putin, for months preceding the invasion?
Like Biden sending Harris, who bragged she had never been to Europe, to get Zelenskyy to capitulate, to an invading Putin?
Like Biden offering Zelenskyy a ride, when he wanted ammunition?
Weakness is illuminated by Democrats, causing wars by merely mismanaging world problems, repeatedly over the decades… many decades.
“Trump… wants absolute power”
If that was the case, he would be “President”, but he is not, and therefore your speculation is baseless.
“publicly looked up to Putin”
And privately told Putin that if he invaded Ukraine, he would hit Moscow.
“Our nation’s institutions…”
We’re demonstrated to be corrupt, by election processes not being adjusted by legislative bodies, but by autocratic executive branches, during the 2020 election cycle, states not abiding by their own constitutions.
“avoid being prosecuted and imprisoned for his various crimes”
Like the foreign election interference by the Democrat Party, using a UK source, to distribute Russian propaganda, in order to unsuccessfully try to sway the 2016 elections?
Like Hunter Biden, repeatedly breaking the law, and Secret Service disposing of evidence?
Like Biden publicly bragging about his role in getting Ukrainian prosecutor dismissed (who was prosecuting the company Biden’s son was taking oil cuts from), by threatening to withhold military aid, with a megalomaniac like Putin wanting to take over their country?
Like sniffing Biden, whose daughter wrote in her diary about her bringing little girls to their house and Biden having “inappropriate showers” with her?
Sorry man. I pine for the days of the US having a real President, like JFK & Reagan… not for the days of never ending wars, driven by ineptitude.
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@pmpowalisz - “biggest, richest, and most powerful”
NATO is HQ’s in Brussels, not Washington.
Until the Europeans figure out that they are the heart of NATO, and not just working girls looking for a handout from their sugar daddy, they place themselves in grave risk.
The US can not do much, from the other side of an ocean, by the time a well oiled armor machine rolls across Europe, the US would barely be able to get their armor across the Atlantic!
“Smaller members skimping on their share of obligation”
Germany is not a “smaller member”, they are huge, conquered Europe twice, running Europe long before the rise of the US, and was pumping their wealth into Russia [who was invading neighboring nations, for decades.]
The “smaller nations”, as you called them, were proverbially “sleeping with the enemy”, and was funding the invasion & reinvasion of Ukraine.
So was Biden, by the way, by shutting down energy exploration in the US, and passively watching Russia become the #2 oil partner to the US, surpassing Mexico… repeatedly promising not to send troops to uphold the U.S. end of a multilateral security treaty & sending VP Harris to get Zelenskyy to capitulate was unbelievable. Biden was shamed into supporting Ukraine, at least he did not just send blankets like he did the last time.
Liberal nations love dictators like Putin, not in their words, but by their deeds, and by the bribes they take.
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@lostcat9lives322 - “hatred of reality”
I hated the past couple invasions of Ukraine, as a result of Obama/Biden & Biden/Harris mismanagement; the civil war of Syria, as a result of Obama/Biden/Pelosi intervention; the civil war in Libya, as a result of Obama/Biden/Clinton intervention… so many more.
Hating war is not such a bad thing.
The Democrat Party has been the party of War, ever since it’s founder, Andrew Jackson, illegally invaded Florida… then WW1, WW2, Korea, Vietnam, the loss of Vietnam (when Democrats in Congress refused to authorize air support to the South Vietnamese government, who had experience an end to the Vietnam war under Republican President Nixon); the loss of Iran to an Islamist terrorist organization under Carter; the invasion of Iraq under Obama/Biden by The Islamic State…
War exists everywhere a Democrat fiddles with it’s fingers. The Democrats have long been the party of war, leveraging the Russian propaganda machine for their benefit during Vietnam & into the future.
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Hi @pmpowalisz - “President Obama waiting two years just to give weapons to moderate Syrian rebels”
Obama/Biden/Clinton overthrew pushed for Egypt Libya to funnel small arms into Libya causing the civil way in Libya in Feb 2011 and started funneling Libyan arms to Syria, whose civil war started in March 2011.
Obama/Biden/Clinton were funneling arms to drive the Syrian civil war, from day-1.
“Obama and Pelosi were respecting local traditions”
Syrian Christians did not need to cover in Syria, when Pelosi went there, to the site where previous civil wars started against the Shia regime, and this occurred before Obama was President.
“Trump withheld… from Ukraine”
He withheld nothing. This was never proven, which is the reason Trump was exonerated.
Actually, when Obama & Biden sent Ukraine food and blankets, Trump came into office and started shipping Ukraine heavy weapons.
“Shady investigation”
Joe Biden bragged on withholding money from Ukraine, until the investigation was dropped against the company involving Hunter Biden… idiots impeached the wrong person:
“guy was so corrupt he leaked the name of informants”
Sounds like the US FBI during the Trump Administration, who were so corrupt, that they knew Trump was innocent, but kept leaking names to the public on the fake Russia probe, which turned out to be Hillary paying a UK informant to pay a Russian propaganda artist.
“Trump praised Putin… changed his tune when Putin started shelling Ukrainian cities”
Trump bought time with sweet talk, tried to get Europe to arm up, tried to get Germany to stop funding the Russian war machine, armed up Ukraine, and then started talking hard with Putin.
This is not dumb… is trying to negotiate from a position of strength, after Obama/Biden we’re shipping blankets to Ukraine after the first invasion:
“Trump wanted absolute power”
That is bull. Trump had the same political positions, for 30 years. The times changed, to fit his perspective, Trump was elected.
“Trump appeased Turkey’s aggression”
Actually, Trump made the Kurds withdraw, then forced Russia to extend their lines & fight to the border of Turkey.
Honestly, it was genius. It caused Russia to have to spend treasure, they would have spent invading Ukraine, on dealing with Northern Syria, so the US did not have to.
Russia has the GDP of South Korea, every Bomb dropped drained Putin’s arsenal, and drained Putin’s treasure chest… which is likely half empty now, so the Ukraine war can not be fought any more than one more year, until Russia runs out of cash.
“Appeasing the Taliban”
The Taliban made an agreement to not host terrorists who would attack the U.S.- which was the reason the U.S. invaded Afghanistan after 9/11.
There was a protocol in place, the Taliban did not meet the protocol, and Biden withdrew early & chaotically, throwing the father of a major Biden activist (the father was President of Afghanistan) under the bus.
This demonstrated there was no honor among thieves.
“Why would Putin feel the need to invade Ukraine…?”
It was roughly the 100th anniversary of the Soviet Russian invasion of Ukraine, and Putin pined for the old Soviet Union.
It was the 100th anniversary under Trump, but Trump started arming Ukraine, pushing US troops farther East, pushing for NATO allies to arm up, pushing NATO allies to stop buying energy & filling Putin’s war coffers.
Biden did Putin’s bidding by shutting down US oil exploration & drive US imports of Russian energy, which actually helped to fund the Russian invasion of Ukraine.
“Reagan… Rewarding companies short term profits”
This is not the cause of a President.
It is the law that stock holders can sue a company if they do not put the fiscal interests of their stock holders first.
This problem is a Congress problem. That law can be fixed, or a company can decide to not be public ally owner. Some companies go 100% private, for that very reason; long term restructuring.
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@pmpowalisz - “Iran… Saudi Arabia”
The US was allied with both nations, until Democrat Carter screwed up Iran and Democrat Biden is pretty close to screwing up Saudi Arabia.
“radical Sunni Islamic religious sect… attacked the US”
Saudi Arabia aligned themselves with the US, where SA kicked out Osama bin Laden, and SA worked with the US against Iraq [when Iraq invaded Kuwait & were preparing to invade Saudi Arabia, when OBL wanted to declare a Jihad against Saddam, and OBL was upset with the US once SA went to the US & the US put infidel soldiers in Arabian Peninsula.)
It was after Saudi Arabia rejected OBL & aligned with the US that OBL writ an Islamic Fatwa for justification of global Muslims to war with the US [for US infidel soldiers being housed in the nation that houses the holy cities of Mecca & Medina], and Al-Qaida started attacking the US with the help of other Muslims around the globe:
- bombing of US Embassies in Africa
- bombing of USS Cole
- bombing of US World Trade Center using Iraqi bomb maker in 1993
- bombing of US WTC & Pentagon 2001
Democrat Bill Clinton’s inadequate response to deal with a global religious war against the US with local police response lead to repeated escalations & eventually 9/11.
Saudi Arabia partnered with the US, because the US helps SA survive, since Democrat Carter’s mismanagement of Iran in the 1970’s put Saudi Arabia at great risk.
By the way, Obama/Biden/Clinton partnered with the Muslim Brotherhood, which is a largely Sunni controlled terror group out of Egypt. The MB founder was an invited guest of Hitler in Nazi Germany, during WW2, and there was cross pollination, with Mein Kampf becoming translated into Arabic & distributed, and Islamic ideals feeding Nazi ideology.
Historically, Obama/Biden/Clinton’s Muslim Brotherhood partners aligned with Hitler during WW2, approved of extermination of Jews, raised 2 divisions of SS out of European Muslims for the Axis partners, and fought against the US & Allies.
I still can’t believe that the Democrats partnered with Islamic Fascists of WW2, in order to control Egypt and overthrow Libya & Syria.
There is a fine line between today’s democrats & Fascism. What a shame.
“Shia based terrorists only attack Israel…”
Not correct, at all… here are a few, another 30 or so that I did not include:
1982-1983 - Tyre headquarters bombings
1983 - US Embassy bombing in Beirut
1984 - United States Beirut embassy annex bombing
1985 - hijacking of TWA flight 847 & US navy sailor
1992 - Embassy bombing in Argentina killing 29
1994 - Community center bombing in Argentina killing 85
1994 AC Flight 901 attack killing 21
1996 Khobar Towers bombing, killing 19 Americans
1998 - Iranian assistance in US embassy bombings in Kenya and Tanzania.
2000 - Iran trained & provided logistics to Al-Qaida in Bombing of the USS Cole
2001 - Iran trained Al-Qaida in destroying large buildings in Lebanon
2001 - 8 of 10 hijackers travel facilitated by Iran border guards
Iran protected family members of Osama bin Laden post 9-11
Iran protected retreating terrorists retreating from Iraq when pursued by American forces
2003 - Iran complicity in 2003 Riyadh compound bombings
Many Many bombings & attacks on Americans in Iraq
2011 - foiled Iranian attempt to kill ambassador and bomb 2 embassies in the US
2012-02 - Iran bombing in New Delhi, India
2012-02 - series of bombings in Bangkok, Thailand.
2012 - two Iranians carrying explosives for terrorist attack in Kenya
2018 - France froze Iranian assets due to bombing attempt in Paris
2018 - 2018, Denmark foiled Iranian bombing plot
2018-12 - Iran plotted terrorist attacks in Albania
2022 - US foiled bombing plot against former national security advisor & Secretary of State
2022 - US foiled Iranian kidnapping plot against woman journalist in US
“Russia interfered in 2016 election”
Duh… I confirmed it a few times, Russia funneled propaganda through Hillary Clinton repeatedly, and it was being leaked throughout 2016.
Other included:
- Russian ad for Bernie Sanders superhero promoting gay rights
- Russian ad endorsing Black Panthers as fighters against the KKK
- Russian ad for a Confederate flag and a call for the South to rise again
- Russian ad for yellow “No Invaders Allowed” sign posted at the United States border
- Russian ad attacking Trump
- Russian ad attacking Sanders
- Russian ads for “woke blacks”
- Russian page called “Don’t Shoot” regarding anti police violence
Everyone was well aware of the 2016 election interference by Russia…
“Democrats have been hating on Russia ever since 2016”
Oh no, it did not start in 2016, but with the Democrat Bill Clinton led NATO bombing of Orthodox Serbs during the revolution in Yugoslavia. Putin used the West [Democrat Clinton’s] attack on Orthodoxy & support of Muslims [who aligned with Hitler’s Nazi’s during WW2] to create a storyline.
The Democrat Clinton mismanagement of this & perceived alignment with Nazi’s re-created an antagonistic relationship with post WW2 Russia, and Putin came to power immediately after that.
Democrat foreign policy mismanagement created Putin’s Russia… and ultimately the seeds of the two Ukraine Invasions [Putin justifying the invasion for de-nazification] are the fault of Democrat Bill Clinton for mismanagement, Democrat Obama/Biden for emboldening Putin by sending food & clothing & nothing but defensive weapons during the first invasion of Ukraine, Democrat Obama/Biden/Clinton for supporting Nazi aligned Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt/Libya/Syria, and Biden/Harris emboldening Putin to invade Ukraine again [in their denazification quest] by promising to not send US soldiers when Russia invaded Ukraine.
“Trump… Ukraine”
You are speculating over a delay in shipment of weapons, of a number weeks, before a scheduled call, and there was never any threat of withholding weapons (like there was of Biden threatening to withhold aid if the prosecutor going after his son’s $$$ company was not fired.)
Once again, Trump was the first US president to authorize & send heavy offensive weapons to Ukraine, like The Javelin… while Obama/Biden sent food & clothes & defensive electronics & small arms
Trump told Putin he would Hit Moscow if Putin invaded, vs Biden who promised for months that the US would not send troops
What we know are the results:
Obama/Biden, Putin invasion
Trump/Pence, no invasion
Biden/Harris, Putin invasion
The record speaks for itself
“Why did they receive it months late”
If you remember, back immediately before the 2014 Russian invasion of Ukraine, the former Ukrainian President said he would sign a law to do closer trade with Europe, but turned on a dime back to Putin.
Trump committed to lethal Ukraine aid, that Democrats were afraid to send, Ukraine just elected a new President, and people were uncertain where Zelenskyy would stand.
Sen. James Lankford had just finished visiting Kyiv, and was asked why The Whitehouse was delaying, and said, “there was due diligence, and the administration has been active in trying to get lethal aid to the Ukrainians in the past.”
Anything else is pure politics.
“Bush… dismantling the old [Sunni] government”
I agree with you, there. That was the biggest mistake, not because Bush did not know how things worked there.
Bush had Middle East involvement for decades, he knew how things worked there.
Bush knew that regime change in Iraq would no longer necessitate the housing of US soldiers in Saudi Arabia (to continue Democrat Clinton’s containment strategy, which resulted in a religious war against the U.S. and justified the 9/11 attacks.)
Bush knew debathification would help remove Saddam supporters, to keep Saddam from coming to power again, after a new government was set up.
Bush miscalculated how Iran would turn Iraq into a puppet state, and cut the Sunni Middle East in half, with an Terrorist Shite line of power from Central Asia to the Mediterranean Sea between the Sunni Turks & Sunni Arabs.
This was my biggest fear, and it occurred.
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@pmpowalisz - “Shah… Iran… brutal dictator… Iranian people could vote… less restrictive towards women than SA was in till recently”
You have no idea what you are talking about.
You clearly were not alive back then.
During the time of the Shah, women lived reasonably normal Western lives in the cities, look at the photos & you could not differentiate them from Women in The West.
When the terrorists took over Iran, women were forced to cover, and they were beaten in public for non-compliance.
The terrorists took over, they never allowed people to vote for anyone the terrorist cell did not approve of. Representatives the people wanted were taken off the list & were stuck in prison. Iranians could never vote for who they wanted.
“Over the past decade…”
During the FIRST decade, after the terrorists took over Iran, Iran used kidnappings & prisons & assassins & bombings, both domestically & abroad, to control their citizens & other citizens.
The Shia started to radicalize, and in return the Sunni’s in Saudi Arabia started to radicalize.
When the Shia radical terrorists took over Iran, the Sunni radicals tried to emulate and tried take over Saudi Arabia, they performed a Siege of Mecca, and the Saudi government killed them.
During this time, Sunni’s in Saudi Arabia & other nations started to become more radical. It was after this point, women started to be forced to cover up, and the photos of women all over the Middle East & North Africa stopped showing normal Western lives in the cities and started showing covered women everywhere.
I had family members, who were safe for decades in the Middle East, and only after the terrorists took over Iran and terrorists failed to take over Saudi Arabia, did they suffer risk of kidnapping. My family members were nearly kidnapped twice.
Iranian terrorist cells used the drug trade in Central Asia & Central America & South America, to fund their other terrorist operations.
“Over the past decade the Iranian government had…”
Continued the same policies of repressing people, except they were emboldened & funded by Democrat Obama/Biden sending them plane loads of cash, which Iranian terrorists used to finance their terrorist operations all over the Middle East, turning Iraq into a puppet state, killing politicians in Lebanon, fighting the U.S. Democrat proxies in Syria, starting a civil war in Yemen, helping hold Venezuela in an iron grip, and continuing to hold Iranian citizens in the same iron grip where they can not choose for the people they can vote for…
“Bin Laden may have left SA but was still supported and funded by influential groups within the country”
Just like Democrat Obama/Biden sent plane ✈️ loads full of cash 💵, to prop up Iran 🇮🇷, when Iran was on the ropes. Does that mean the policy of the United States was to support terrorists?
Just like Democrat Obama/Biden/Clinton & later Kerry funneling billions in money 💴 & weapons into Syria 🇸🇾, to pay Muslim Brotherhood to fight a civil war? Democrat revised Libya would eventually restart the Arab Slave Trade in Africa. Democrat funded & trained Sunni terrorists would eventually migrate to The Islamic State, who partnered with the Muslim Brotherhood, to invade Iraq & commit genocide & restart the Arab Slave Trade in Iraq & Syria.
Are Democrats or the US responsible for restarting the Middle East & Africa Slave Trade, since Democrats covertly restructured the Middle East & North Africa with money 💰 & Weapons?
The policy of Saudi Arabia was not to support OBL. In this way, Saudi Arabia was far better than the US government, controlled by Democrats, towards terrorists.
“To this day the Saudi Arabia. Government still allows the same radical religious sect that many Sunni terrorists still…”
The religious sect are allowed to exist, under a degree of control by The King. At the same time, they are powerful, and could overthrow the King, so there is a dance they play.
The US still allows Democrats, who fund terrorism in Central Asia & Middle East & North Africa, when Democrats overthrow nations & send plane loads of money & funnel stockpiles of weapons from overthrown nations to fight civil wars.
The US still allows Democrats to exist, even though the founder of the Democrat party was a violent imperialist, who invaded Spanish held Florida, and later became President… when Democrats fought for slavery in the US… when Democrats restarted the slave trade in North Africa & Middle East… when Democrats created a new class of slave in the US by flooding the nation with illegal aliens that they could exploit for their labor to bypass Equal Protection clause of the US constitutional amendment they voted against after the end of slavery & beginning of the civil rights movement.
Nations must find accommodations for large groups of wicked people, Saudi Arabia must find accommodations for potential Sunni terrorists, and the US must find accommodations for potential Democrat slavers & terrorist finders.
“Muslim Brotherhood was once a terrorist organization but the Egyptian branch has gotten a lot more moderate”
By staging Islamic Terrorists in Sinai Peninsula, hosting Al-Qaida in Sinai Peninsula, freeing terrorists convicted of bombing from prison once they took power, applying pressure to the US to release people convicted of bombing on American soil, Bombing Christian minorities in Egypt proper, Bombing MB dissenters in Egypt proper, Bombing Egyptian libraries & museums, Bombing tourist locations, threatening in Arab media to March Egyptian soldiers to Syria & overthrow the Syrian government.
Their reign of terror was overthrown by moderate Muslims of Egypt, who saw the MB “moderate” brand of terrorism - bombing all over Egypt. It was a nightmare, and the nation was brought to a stand still. The MB government was forcing the military to shoot their family members in the streets, when civilians who refused to work, and eventually the MB fell.
You clearly don’t have family out there, telling you what was happening. The main church in Cairo was bandaging the wounded Muslims, that the MB were trying to kill. I’ve listened to the stories of peoples & their families, who had to deal with the MB. Shortly after this, I spent a nice evening with a young Muslim university student, who came from the home town where the Fascist Muslim Brotherhood started, and he told me his adventures in trying to overcome the MB terrorists who tried to overtake Egypt.
“Cheered on by the nation’s politically inept liberals”
Because Islamic Fascism is bad.
No matter how much Democrats try disagree with it, there is some base instinct that calls them back to government power of the gun, to repress the people.
“I notice you don’t seem to care for elections”
There is a difference between rigged elections, in terrorist controlled states like Iran, where the terrorists hand pick who can run & not run.
There is a difference between elections, where those who come to power came to power through election interference (Obama/Biden/Clinton pumped money into Egypt to sway that election), elected officials free convicted terrorist to burn down the libraries, Bomb the museums, host foreign Islamic Terrorist cells in their nation, and try to sway the nation to invade a sovereign nation elsewhere in the Middle East.
It is also the right of the people to protest, and they did.
When the MB Islamic fascists tried to coerce the army to continue to kill unarmed [largely Muslim] protesters, the army decided their orders were illegitimate.
In the US, we have a little thing called Freedom of Speech, freedom of Association. The military has a little thing called the Geneva Convention. When government calls for violation of the Geneva Convention, the government become illegitimate.
When Muslims call Muslims to unjustly kill other Muslims, the Muslims called to do the killing consider the ones giving orders to not be obedient Muslims, and they are overthrown. Egypt is a place where the Islamic Law reigns supreme over Secular Law, and good Muslims have a religious obligation to rise over the terrorists, paid for & advocated by foreign actors like US Democrats.
“Imagine if Republicans were allowed to re-write the US Constitution”
They would put teeth into it, to keep Democrats from profiteering the #NewSlavery, when Democrats get their new slaves by facilitating entry of illegal aliens, to live in a 2 tier legal system, where they are forever trying to get civil rights, and are coerced by Democrats to do what they want in order to hopefully get a bread crumb thrown to them.
Democrats are disgusting, the way they refuse to apply the same laws at the ship ports, the air ports, and the southern border. Democrats always hated Equal Protection, fought against the constitutional amendment, and hate Equal Protection even today. Democrat Slavers in the beginning, Democrat Slavers to the end… Republicans need to end the slavery Democrats do.
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@pmpowalisz - “if Putin used a weapon of mass destruction in the Ukraine”
It is really a good question.
The US is tied by international treaty to guarantee Ukraine’s sovereign borders, in exchange for Ukraine giving up nuclear weapons.
David Patraeus said the US should sink the whole Black Sea fleet.
If the US decided to abide by their treaty and protect Ukraine’s sovereign borders, could that be a reasonable enough response?
If the US wants to get out of their treaty obligation to protect Ukraine’s sovereign borders for Ukraine giving up their nukes, as the US avoided for almost a decade, perhaps Ukraine should be allowed to have nuclear weapons back, for their retaliatory use, with the decision to how & where they could use it?
A radius the length of the Kerch bridge, on the other side of the Russian Kerch bridge, looks like a reasonable place to retaliate for a first response for Ukraine.
A tract of land, the radius of the land bridge across Southern Ukraine, on the Russian side of the land bridge, may be another good retaliatory strike area.
These are things that I don’t have good answers for. Whatever is done, it should be done by the Ukrainians, because it is their nation which is being taken over by Russian invaders, who broke their international treaty guaranteeing the sovereign borders of Ukraine.
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Hi @pmpowalisz - “You know Saudi Arabia funded Isis along with many other Sunni rebels in the first few years of the civil war”
And Democrats Obama/Biden/Clinton did, from the beginning… and then Obama/Biden/Kerry continued in earnest.
“If only Obama had just funded the more moderate rebels from the start”
I had already pointed this out, several times, Democrats Obama/Biden/Clinton funded & weapon used the rebels in Syria from the beginning, with Sunni Arab allies.
The covert CIA program:
Timber Sycamore
The public military program, which happened later:
Syrian Train and Equip Program
“You claim I lack understanding of history”
Because you keep saying things like the Arab countries were funding things & Obama did public funding later. We are talking about weeks to months, from when Obama started covert CIA funding & training & weaponizing… along with the Arab allies.
“the most liberal party”
Liberal and Conservative have no meaning without a standard. Today’s Republican Party conserve The Declaration of Independence, Constitution, Amendments, and Faith Traditions which founded the nation. Todays liberals, liberate themselves from those things.
“an extremely egotistical… is not to change it for the better”
The policies were absolutely correct:
- energy independence (not dependent upon Russia & Middle East)
- energy export (to help allies in case of war, which we now see is 100% right!)
- tolerance for both renewable & carbon energy (the more diverse our energy, the better for the world!)
- protection for US Solar industry from China
- trade deals with China to balance trade deficit (which unfortunately, fell apart after weakening of former President)
- strong border security, discouraging illegal entry (distracting border patrol from blocking slavers & drug traffickers)
- sending more judges to deal with asylum cases at southern border
- path to citizenship for dreamers (rejected by Democrats)
- migrant protection protocol, discouraging abuse of Amnesty laws
- NAFTA replacement with USMCA (fixing issues with financial & information & patent arenas)
- piping energy from North West US, instead of using Train (trains inflate cost & supply chain delay of food & manufacturers goods)
- piping energy from Canada, across the border, to make Canadian energy better available to US & Europe & Mexico
- expand exploration in Alaska (Alaska Pipeline in running around half full, due to lack of exploration)
- heavy weapons shipped to Ukraine (javelins have done very well against Russian armor & air)
- agreement of Taliban to not host/protect terrorists targeting America (reason for Afghanistan invasion)
- defunding of Obama/Biden/Clinton/Kerry covert CIA funding & training & weaponizing program to overthrow Syria secular government [with an Sunni Islamic government]
- recognition by multiple Middle East & North African nations of Israel, officially ending hostilities post WW2 (Middle East peace)
- encouraging equal treatment of people, regardless of skin color (conserving the Declaration of Independence, Constitution, and Amendments)
“We need a leader with…”
Agreed, but we have not had a candidate like that since Republicans like GW Bush, Reagan, and Democrats like Carter in recent history.
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