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Comments by "bighand69" (@bighands69) on "Shocking Reactions To U.S. Healthcare Costs From The UK" video.
Europeans pay 4 times as much tax as the median american income. And then are stupid enough to think they are getting free healthcare. How stupid can some populations be.
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People in the UK pay four times as much taxes as the median American income. So the healthcare that many think is free in the UK is not free. Not even close.
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As a Brit I worked in the NHS and it was a disaster. Anybody who thinks it is free has to have an IQ lower than average.
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@johnbaldock6353 US has highest average cancer survival rates. I have worked in both US and UK hospitals and have seen the difference in treatment outcomes at both service and clinical levels.
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@johnbaldock6353 No I suppose large numbers of Brits live in council houses with bad teeth and produce children that are mostly going to live in social housing. British people do pay for their healthcare only it is four times higher and hidden in taxes.
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@johnbaldock6353 Those not earning in the US are covered by medicaid and are entitled to use top ranking hospitals.
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@julienhennequart33 You are misinformed. In the US those that earn less than $20,000 per earn do not pay taxes. They are on 0% taxation. They are also covered for healthcare by medicaid which means they get to use the best private healthcare facilities for free such as the Mayo Clinic. The median income in the US is $60,000 and in france the median is $31,000. That means the average working person in the US is wealthier. The average median retired income in the US is $70,000 while in france it is $29,000.
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@fresch4395 America has the best health survival rates in the world.
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@timaustin2000 US has far better emergency services such as fire and Ambulance. US has a greater military, transport system, industrial base, better access to medicines and I could go on and on.
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@homan2329 Americans pay a lot less taxes than British people do. The US median income pays about 4 less tax.
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@Wordavee1 Median income in the US is $60,000 which would be taxed at 12% in the US. That exact same income in the UK or any other European country would be taxed at 40%. That excludes rebates. Median US healthcare insurance premium is $5400 (KFF) and the exact same US income applied to the UK would require a National Insurance contribution of $6000. Can you explain how it is cheaper in the UK if the contribution level is higher?
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@JoeLipman So you have lost the argument on marginal tax rates and now want to change it to effective tax rates. Is that the direction you want to take it in yes or no.
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What crap are you talking. Canada has massive waiting lists and most patients are not treated. And then to top it all of there are no private hospitals. You have a nerve on you boasting about Canada.
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Americans pay far less tax for median income than the UK. The average American retirement fund is 1.5 million dollars. In the UK state pension is £7000 per year and in the US average retired income is $70,000.
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The NHS is for a stupid population that pays four times as much tax as the median US income. It is not cheap nor is it free when paying four times as much taxes.
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@TheAli985 Those figures you quoted do not take into account taxation or procedure cost. They exclude UK private healthcare costs such as dental or care costs. They also exclude government health provision expenditure which are appropriate in taxation. The cost of healthcare on a per like basis between the UK and US are the same. Many US healthcare provision are not available in the UK. Take PPAR-gamma agonists as a treatment pathway for metabolic disease. It is widely utilized in the US but it is not available in the UK. People in the US pay for that but people in the UK do not as it is not available. There are many treatments in the US that are not available in the UK.
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@TheAli985 Average healthcare insurance cost is $5700 and average UK National Insurance cost $6000. Taxes are 4 times higher on median US salary.
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@TheAli985 They both pay for healthcare so they are relevant.
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George Job What is a no go area.
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UK is a poor mans working country. The median income in the US is far higher and the level of tax is far lower. Aneurin Bevan destroyed the average workers wealth in the UK. The median US retirement is 1.5 million dollars. That means most Americans retire as millionaires unlike the average Brit who retires with £7000 per year which is just shocking. And then the mighty NHS leaves old people on waiting lists for years suffering in the most horrendous pain. The NHS is disgusting at best.
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Hussain Khan The UK government spends nearly 50% of its budget on welfare. There are no excuses so stop crying.
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@jackkruese9929 US median income is $60,000 per year how is there income inequality? You are just repeating what the media promotes.
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@jackkruese9929 Median implies that the majority of households have that income. That would mean if you picked a household from the US it would have an income of $60,000. You would find far more households with $60,000 income than not. That means that 75% of US income is higher than the average European income. That means there are 250 million people in America than have a far higher standard of living than the average in Europe. That means there is a far more people in the US who have a higher standard of of wealth than anywhere else in the world. Comparing the bottom 1% of the US against the top 1% does not represent the 98% of the population.
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@hiddenknowledge2012 There are no assumptions. The median retired income in the US is $70,000 per year. With the median retirement fund being $1.5 million. Most working Americans experience a household income of about $60,000. With over one third of US households experiencing an income of greater than $100,000. Homeless rate in the US is 17 per 10,000 people in Germany the homeless rate is 37 per 10,000. There are no assumptions.
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@MBM1117727 The Median US retirement fund is $1.5 million. With the median retired income being $70,000 per year. Mean Average retirement savings in the US is $200,000. Not everybody in the US is rich but the living standards in the US are far higher than anywhere else in the world. It is much easier in the US to be rich than anywhere else in the world. That does not mean the streets are paved with gold but for those that work it is really easy. It is very common in the US for those with just a high school education to earn more than $100,000 per year. One third of US households earn more than $100,000 per year.
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@hiddenknowledge2012 As stated by you "the top 20% of Americans owned 86%". That is absolutely irrelevant to Median household income. Median household income in the UK is $36,441 Median household income in the US is $62,000 as of 2019. Median household income for Germany is $34,000 which is less than the UK. Median applies to the most amount of people. I know most of this tough to understand but stick with it and you will start to understand.
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@MBM1117727 No. Average life time health care costs in us is about $300,000 and that includes end of life care. Lifetime median income is $4 million (none adjusted).
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@MBM1117727 That is not your decision to make. In a free society people like me are allowed to make their own healthcare decisions. And I love paying lower taxes.
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@jackkruese9929 Median household income is the only way to measure wealth at a living level. An average income is not a true representation of real world income levels.
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@jackkruese9929 Average median is not the same as average mean. Mean will include those earning 20 million per year and will push the figures away from the majorities experience. So the vast majority of income will be more appropriately be experienced by median income. Even though one third of US income levels are above $100,000 it does not impact the median level.
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@Chatchann The median income in America is $60,000 with the median retirement fund is $1.5 million. 90% of Americans are covered by health insurance.
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Most British Hospitals are unable to deal with the number of patients that need healthcare. The UK has some of the longest waiting lists in the world. Old people are normally neglected by the NHS to suffer in silence for many years. And then the UK population pays 4 times as much taxes as the median US income. The US is a far greater country with far more wealth for the average worker.
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@BrianMcGuirkBMG "nobody in the UK is refused emergency treatment because they cannot pay." Clearly you are unaware of the US health system. Even illegals immigrants not covered by SS get emergency healthcare in the US. You really need to educate yourself before making such comments.
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@BrianMcGuirkBMG So let us get this straight are you saying nobody gets refused emergency healthcare in America?
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