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Comments by "bighand69" (@bighands69) on "Batgirl Cancelled - A Sign Of Things To Come?" video.
I think they would be mad to go down that route. Make a stand alone Superman and a stand alone Wonder women with cross over but do not make affleck Batman movies because it will cause so much confusion in the minds of the movie audience. Affleck is a great actor and director and they should be getting him to make $20 million production movies and turning them into hits. Warner needs a stand alone Batman world and keep it seperate from the other content. Batman can be its own thing as it is very well established. Their recent Batman film made $800 million at the box office and the next film will probably push $1 billion. If they can find a way to overlap that Batman with the Joker movie they can really bring it in.
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@lennon7575 That $200 million would only allow them to break even and that would have be $200 million in the US. Outside the US that $200 million would have a lower return to the studio and US distributors.
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Fraser is not making a comeback people. He is 53 years of age, overweight and is facing an industry that is in collapse. The film industry is dead and you people have to just accept it. There is no turning this around. We are now entering an expensive capital market period with very high levels of inflation. There is not going to be any money to make the films that people are used to. Most theatres are not going to be able to withstand this. We have never seen anything like this before. The destruction of the theater industry, really bad movie production and a digital theater experience that is inferior to a film celluloid theater of 25 years ago. Imagine playing a video game console that is inferior to a SNES.
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Race swapping is shallow and the audience can see it. If it is a unknown character people do not mind especially if the actor is good. I did not mind Samuel L as Nick Fury.
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Top Gun did nothing for the industry as a whole. It may push Paramount to being a major studio again but I feel they still have it in them for destruction as they will make bad decisions down the line. The next decade is going to make the great depression look like a cake party.
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Those that love the message may very well be a consumer but they make up less than 1% of the population a whole. Seeing thousands of them marching down a street does not mean that they are significant within a population. Even those marching on the street may not even support the message and are marching for a one narrow reason.
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Warner DC new Batman and Joker theme is amazing. They really need to stick with that but they need to liven Batman up a little bit for the next movie and have the gotham still have that manky horrible dark theme. There seemed to be a real menace to Gotham that was not capture before.
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You have to understand the culture of modern studios. They are being dominated by people that have as much creative abilities as a local blue haired busker on the street. They just strum that guitar with the same two cords over and over and whine like crazy. The idea that they would make a $20 million movie that is about characters is as alien to them as it is to CNN reporting the news from an independent perspective.
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The problem with the new Rings of power series is that lots of causal people will watch it and it probably will be well made even though it will not have the soul of middle earth. I suspect it will be a show that has record numbers of viewers and will be good entertainment for those that do not have any knowledge of the Rings.
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@Shadowxx98 The modern movie industry is based on a cycle of reshoots. Normally what would occur is that the first version would be so bad they would go back and shoot again and produce a particular edit. They would go through several cycles of that before they get to the release version. They are so devoid of creativity that they cannot produce a first quality cut as the whole emphasis is on the message. The problem with this reshoot process is that the studios do not have the money they once had. Easy finance is not there to be tapped into anymore. It is the reason why there is a glut of large scale studio films going to streaming that are sub standard affairs.
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He is good but it can cause confusion in the audience having several batmans out there. It would be better to make it clear that he is an older version of Batman but the new Batman movie clearly presents the film in the current age. So confusion is abound in the audience. Affleck is a talent director and actor so giving him $20 million and saying go get em son would really be their best option.
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@No1name234no DO you think it would make 1 billion today?
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Warner has several franchises that could turn them very profitable, some great directing talent like Affleck and resources at the studio level to make their own productions without them being outsourced.
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What you are saying in terms of a new merger is playing a part but it really comes down to the fact they are carrying about $14 billion of debt on a market cap of about $43 billion with revenues of about $13 billion per year. There is no space at this point for them making mistakes and their main franchises really need to be handled with care. They need to build out their Batman franchises and they also need to do a series of smaller $20 million movies that are character driven and based on good writing rather than over the top special effects budgets and 20 different reshoot cycles of new version edits. The idea that fans would show up to watch a DC movie based on the quality rather than some overarching Marvel storyline would be so much easier to achieve and capable of dealing with the odd mistake. One mistake in an overarching plot can bring the whole house down. They have thousands of characters and stories they can build all could be living on the DC logo and quality.
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@hogghug It will only be better if they have good management. Their problem to date is that they do not have creative management at the helm in their studios. Most of what is produce is really outsourced with them acting as a glorified distributor. If they can make a series of movies at the quality level of Dune but at a smaller scale they could become very popular and very profitable. Paramount has been very successful in the meantime and may soon be the market leader. Disney is in the middle of complete brand destruction.
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I do not think it has anything to do with tax write off but that may be a story that gets circulated. Warner are now a new company with debt levels that are high and existing in a new expensive capital market were borrowing is about to get tight and expensive.
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I am not convinced they are realizing anything to be honest.
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What big name? Most of those that are under contract for the movie are probably going to be paid and with a promise of other projects.
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New characters? What on earth have you been taking. These companies do not like to do anything that is new. They are run by lefties that want to take tried and tested themes and turn them into woke franchises that they then can take to their Napa Valley wine tasting holidays.
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Not being finished with a rough cut would be enough when they have to then pumping in millions more. If the directors were just allowed to direct with no executive inputs they would end up with a better movie and costing a lot less. A certain actor recent told me that a movie he was in had hundreds of hours of shooting for just several minutes of screen time. He said that his shoots were so extensive that he believes a movie could have been cut from that alone. These 200 million movies do not have 200 million on screen.
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Top Gun is Paramount and they also have the mission impossible films coming up. And they have a few other hits on their hands this year. But never underestimate these studio who are not just glorified distributors to screw things up
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Remember Shazam was made in a different era and its diversity felt like it was just tacked on but never got in the way. The next versions of the film may be a lot more aggressive and make it the foundation of the show and its entertainment will be replace with a really bad set of watery weak characters. Now countering what I am saying it has the previous director so it may still be good.
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@TheStarMachine2000 Shazam was not made in the thick of a woke movie industry. It was made before it went completely woke. Shazam is a remnant of a pervious movie industry.
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Most of you simply do not have a clue as to what is going on here. AT&T who owned Warner let it go because they were $180 billion of debt even though the company is only worth $130 billion. Warner simply does not have any money and on top of that they are now in a period of expensive capital and high inflation. Warner and Disney may not even exist at the end of this decade and what we are about to see is going to make the 1930s depression era look like a summer camp. China is about to fail and their leadership know this which will prompt them to do desperate things. There is not going to be a global cinema market at the end of this decade.
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I suspect the directors had very little control of the movie and that executives really were shaping it hence why modern big budget films are so bad.
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AT&T is $180 billion in debt and clearly decided to off load one of their liabilities. The studios have destroyed the movie industry at both the theater and rental level of the industry. Every step that they have made has been one disaster to another disaster. They first of all participated in the destruction of the theater industry, Then blamed the streaming industry that they then all go into and destroy. They have not produced a film star in 25 years even though there is lots of talent out there that could easily be built into a movie star.
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Nope. They need to keep Batman simple. If they want to do say a TV show where those that watch understand it is not part of the wider DC movies that would be fine. In the way that Marvel destroyed their key franchise with end game they really have nowhere else to go. And with their new determined message they will sink even faster.
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The movies are probably not finished.
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I suspect they do not have the money to finish the movies.
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Warner may not have the money to make the films. They did not make massive layoffs in HBO max for the fun of it.
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My take is they did not have the money to finish these new movies that do not have the chops to make any sort of success. What was screen tested was incomplete movies that were hastily edited. The industry to date would just reshot and re-edit the movies into a new product after several rounds of executive internal competition. Warner is now out on its own and away from the protective shell of AT&T.
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An executive of Warner said that after the success of Dune that they intended to focus on the quality of the entertainment rather than raw box office. The problem with all of this is that Warner has financial issues in terms of not having the capital variable to them to make new content. They did not drop these new films because they dislike the idea of woke they simply do not have the money to finish them. If they use that money it will mean nothing having it for other films. They now have to choose wisely.
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