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Comments by "bighand69" (@bighands69) on "Why China Can't make Chips!" video.
Knowing how to make something does not mean that you actually can make it. It is like saying you know how to design rockets to mars.
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That is what happens in an authoritarian culture that is not a market economy. Nothing is developed and there is no culture of behavior that enables creative thinking.
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Where do you think DJI gets the components to manufacturing their systems from. For example where do they source the microchips for the digital Cameras, sensors, signal processors and so on. A car can be assembled with a badge on it but all the components can be from other places.
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All the machines that operate Chinese manufacturing are from the US, Germany, Switzerland, Japan and Canada.
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It is because they do not know what they are doing. They think they are supplying you with the right thing but do not know it is just one random thing in a billion.
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Not even close to being true. The actual size of the transistor is not the defining factor in terms of how many transistors can fit on a chip. That is just a marketing ploy and when you look down into it you will realize that the transistors are nowhere near as small as what are claimed but certain feature sizes are at that scale so they get used in the marketing. Moore's law still has another 30 to 40 years before the theoretical size limit means they cannot cram anymore transistors on a 2 dimensional surface and will require different profiles.
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The US has already been retooling for the last several years. China is not even the US largest trading partner. Both Canada and Mexico are larger than China for US imports.
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Having the machines does not mean they have the culture to do it. Having an MRI does not mean that a person can actually operate that test system.
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@maniswil2 US did not get lucky. What you see as luck is part and parcel of the market economy. China does not have a market economy nor a creative culture. Taiwan and Korea are not as advanced as people imagine and are still years behind the US as their market economy is in its baby steps. The US per value production of chips is still far in excess of Taiwan. I know this runs counter to the media narrative that has convinced people that all chips come from Taiwan.
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You are living in a fantasy if you think the US cannot manufacture lithography based systems.
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It is Chinese assembled equipment based on western know how.
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Difference is that China is like a special needs kid that might be good at some narrow task but as a whole is not capable.
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@webluke Apple should have their semiconductor plants. They are sitting on $200 billion of cash and could easily build all their chip needs with about $50 billion of that.
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China specializes in low level controller chips which are toaster level capabilities.
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@PravinDahal China produces a billions bits of junk based on billions of western dollars and western designs. They are producing the lowest of the low when it comes to market value.
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What do you mean by indictment?
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It would cause a collapse in smart device chips such as ARM but not desktop or server level chips which are manufactured in the US and some European partners. The US is the world's largest manufacturer of chips when it comes to value but not raw numbers of chips. A machine that uses very complex chips sets is more than likely going to be using US based chips or subsidiary production through something like Siemens.
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The US still produces its own lithography machines but to boost trade and global robustness partners were sought out around the world to ensure that it would happen. Hence why so many countries are in on the act.
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@ranaashhad8040 Low quality what?
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A lot of products I noticed over the years started using PRC to throw people off or in some cases not even put on an origin of manufacture but all the details on the design company. I have started to notice more and more products made in India, Bangladesh and Taiwan.
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China is not a market economy.
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They lack the ability to do it. Even If China some how was able to take over Taiwan and get access to all their production capabilities they simply would have no idea how to get such a manufacturing system operational.
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Mass manufacturing chips from a creative start is a completely different ball game. That is the sort of thing that takes many decades to do and requires a free market to achieve. China is a top down culture and by the time they figure out how to do it they will still be 50 years behind the US.
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They are Chinese assembled equipment but there was a worry that they could put back door aspects on the networks. The real fear was not security in terms of hacking but was security in terms of reliability. Nothing worse than a countries communications networks going down because something was not correctly made.
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ASML is only one manufacturer or lithography there are several of them out there some are very unique and specialize in niche areas of lithography.
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They cannot cut of world chip manufacturing by taking down Taiwan.
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Culture can take 100 years to build. China was a failed empire that then become a communist state. That is not something that can change that easily.
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You are either misinformed or clueless.
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I am afraid the information science that develops computer chips is based on the same pool from the same culture. If they cannot do one they will not be able to do the other. That is not to say they cannot have an industry in a niche area like Taiwan does.
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How on earth are they going to build quantum computational models without being able to build binary computation models.
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