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Comments by "bighand69" (@bighands69) on "How Fiber Will Speed Up America’s Internet" video.
Nothing to do with monopolies in the US. It is just very labor intensive and expensive to achieve the last mile. Many people live with in a mile of fibre but the cost of connecting to their home simply is too high. If people were presented with the upfront cost of those connections they would run a mile from them.
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US built a fibre backbone. What people think of in fibre is the actual home installation.
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Easy for NYC not so easy for many other areas but the US will get there at some point.
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The distance from New York to Las Angeles is greater than the distance from New York to Ireland. Most people do not understand the scale of the US.
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Most of the communications companies have high debt so you are probably talking nonsense.
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Many in california have been enjoying coaxial (cable) since the 1960s and as a technology can go up to 500 Mbps. That means there is about an 85% cable coverage for the whole of california and in the cities it is 100% coverage. American media are really good at crisis creation so as to keep viewers.
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Most Americans would not like the quality of living of the EU. They simply would not like the poor quality healthcare, small cars, small houses, lack of career opportunities and so on. Income levels in the US are twice that of the best EU countries. The median income in the US is $70,000 and then there is one in three households that have an income in excess of $100,000 in the US.
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The last mile is not easy and is the most complex issue of them all.
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@theforester_ The US as a whole is higher internet speeds than Brazil. The US is an enormous place with a spread out population.
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The vast majority of America would not like to live in Sweden. US house prices are lower, income is greater, energy is cheaper, products are cheaper and there is just a greater level of services.
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Same in the US.
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All nonsense. Australia is a large place and even though the people live in the coastal regions they are still spread out. Take Sydney for example it is spread over 12000 square kilometers with a population of 5 million. London is spread out over 8000 square kilometers with a population of 14 million. The last mile is the most complex and expensive part of internet connections hence why it is so slow to get there.
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@WeirdNamja You are talking like there is some big political scandal or conspiracy. The only thing that is happening is that politicians are over promising. Australia is massive and the cost of such a network would run in the hundreds of billions. DO you honestly think Australian politicians can actually deliver on that promise.
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Coaxial is still a great service and far more than what most people need for internet.
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Would you rather live in Asia or the USA.
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I think it depends on where people live.
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Fibre is very expensive and NTL was not a profitable organisation and would have failed.
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@E69apeTheMatrix420 There is no such thing as a human right for Fibre optics. Most homes in the US do not have fibre in the home. In the US the main internet connection is Cable which can handle up to 500Mbps. And the US has had cable since the 1940s.
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The US has fibre optics problem is getting into the homes. They have been at it for 20 years and still not there yet. US figures on this includes rural communities as well and not just cities. Many countries only include cities in their data.
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The US already has a nationwide fibre network. The issue is how to get it into homes.
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America has a very widespread cable network that can handle high speed internet and it is the reason why the average speed in the US is 200Mbps. And the US has had that for the last 50 years. US has had cable commination's in homes since the late 1940s and it was routine in the 1970s. Replacing that will be a large job.
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Standard where?
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US data includes rural areas where many countries only include city areas in their figures. The US is an enormous place and it would take time to develop that with may ups and downs.
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Without private corporations you would have no internet.
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There would still be bottlenecks in the systems. Optical computing will someday be a reality.
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That shows how hard it is to install fibre. The US has the exact same problem. In the UK there is a fantastic fibre infrastructure and the US is the same but getting that last mile is really hard.
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Spain has youth unemployment figures of about 25% that would not be acceptable in the US. So the US as a whole prefers the free market even if that means a person has to pay $50 for an internet connection. Median income in the US is $70,000 with one in three households earning in excess of $100,000 per year. Cars, houses, clothing, food, appliances, tools and setting up a business in the US is far cheaper than Europe. If people of Spain want their government to give them cheap social programs that is fine but it will be at the expensive of other things.
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I think Americans would prefer cheaper cars, houses, clothing and better healthcare.
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In every other country it would be a state broadcaster doing it and that would just have the same issues because it would be political.
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The US is still better in every other sense to live in. Now Sweden is one of the better run countries in Europe even though everybody bangs on about the Germans.
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@adamwest7953 A lot of people will use these single case examples to say that they are better of than the US. The reality is that the median income in the US is $70,000 with one in three households being in excess of $100,000 per year. A VW Golf GTI will cost about $29000 in the US and in Germany the same car starts at $40000. This is the same through the whole of the US economy with things being far cheaper.
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It is not easy at all. Getting the cable inside the house is a complex slow expensive task. Every house is different with some having great cable containment and others having nothing at all. It is known as the last mile and is very expensive.
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@sfalpha What is your country?
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That is not even close to being true. The US has a 95% high quality healthcare coverage and India is nowhere near that figure.
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You are thinking wrong that is most certainly the case. Spain does not have 90% fibre to the home internet. People use infrastructure population coverage and not live customer connections.
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So you want government to buildout the last mile of fiber and into the home? What is the chance of that happening?
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You do not want more government interference in the marketplace.
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Bulgaria is not ahead of the US when it comes to internet. The media in the US does a very good job of making issues out of nothing. When counting internet speed and access the US includes rural living and many other countries only include urban. When it comes to index speeds of fixed line internet the US is in the top ten with a speed of about 200 Mbps and Bulgaria comes in at 78 Mbps. These comparisons are very complex because we have to take all the data at face value and not suspect that they could be telling little lies. There are people in the US that get crap internet and people that get good internet. Do you feel that there are people in Bulgaria that get bad internet?
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You are giving your anecdotal experience.
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People just do not want to pay for it but let me guess you want the 1% to pay for it.
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US has fibre and cable. They have had cable since the 1940s and have a near 100% cable presence in the cities. Cable can do up to 500 Mbps.
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@geoffwitt4227 When you talk about Coaxial you are really talking about the last mile and not the main infrastructure. A place like washington DC is going to be hard to get fibre into the homes. Most of the data from other countries is very misleading because it gives the impression that every home has it it installed when in fact it is their infrastructure system that has it not the home connection. A lot of these countries did not even have a well developed Coaxial system and rely on copper phone lines.
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@geoffwitt4227 Degradation of the signal can occur but it would not be that significant. The number of users on a cable would be of far more significance than the actual impedance of the connections. A Coaxial can perform up to 500 Mbps and with future technology it could be higher.
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Sorry but it is very expensive to put the cable into the homes and overcome the last mile. Many homes are not the same and do not have easy access ports. If you already have a cable connection that makes the issue of feeding to the home easier but it does not overcome the issue of the building not having good containment for new cables being added.
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@Todd.T Everything hinges on the area and how expensive it would be. If a dwelling has good cable containment then new fibre cables can be feed in but if the containment is already full up with cables there will be no new cables installed. Many properties may have sealed cable installations making it impossible. The issue with this is the varying degrees of complexity with installation.
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The US infrastructure has been fiber optics for the last 20 years. The issue is getting the fibre to the home which is the most expensive and slow part. For some people it could cost $20000 for that last mile installation.
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Every home in India does not have fibre. Where you live that maybe the case but not the whole of India.
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The distance from New York to Los Angeles is greater than the distance from New York to Ireland. The US is an extremely large place and they will get there with fibre optics. In the meantime the US has no shortages of energy or food which many other places are going to have.
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So are you including rural areas in Portugal? US figures include rural.
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@brunos7995 Fiber is not slower in rural areas as the speed of light simply does not have any significant signal degradation. Many countries are pretending that they have widespread fiber when they do not. Americans hear this and then get their briefs in a twist. Americans have always done this with many issues over the decades.
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@brunos7995 The video and your original comments were not about wireless systems. The video is about fibre optics. The US has wireless systems as well.
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The US has a very high cable internet availability. Most people complaining either live in rural areas or do not have cable and are not willing to get it. It would cost trillions to try and install fibre into every US home.
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@Atem_S. I would never say never because cables have already been installed in US houses so it can be done again. It is not an easy, cheap or quick task and will play out over decades.
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The switching of the networks is based on electrical signals. SO they would use conversion methods. None of this is really an issue because that conversion is done over very short distances.
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@JaimeWarlock Sorry you think africa the continent has better communications infrastructure than the US? Did I read you correctly?
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Most of those companies have debts and to try and fill out the whole system with fibre would cost trillions. Many countries when the boast of their fibre are leaving out the fact that they do not have it in the countryside but the US is including the countryside in their figures.
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@spencer5051 Fibre optic cables can be wrapped around powerline's or even run on pole that is for power. Even rural homes can get that but it takes time to do all of that. Many of these countries claiming they have higher fibre optics infrastructure are actually not telling the truth. Most of their data is based around the cities where as the US includes rural as well.
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Starlink is great for rural communities and small towns that are out of the way. There are other solutions to overcome the last mile such as using wireless systems to connect the home or even the neighborhood through wireless to the fibre.
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Do you have a spare trillion to give them?
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The US free market means that houses, cars, appliances, tools, food, energy, transport, clothing and about anything else you can find is actually cheaper.
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@nemesiszz The US is extremely large.
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There are people that were using it in the US 20 years ago.
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Nope the government needs to stay out of it.
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@HumbertoPatricio You are living in a fantasy world and quoting EU policy and PR. Most of Europe does not have a fibre connection and conveniently the data only includes cities and large towns.
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Not not all is needed but they can wire wrap fibre around electrical cables so that they do not need to set up new poles or dig new trenches.
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People are just making things up.
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@moctezumaaleg2008 The US gets life better in every other aspect. The US is number 7 on the global indexes of internet speed. The US is extremely large with a very dispersed population so it tends to mean that there will be areas that do not do as well in some areas of economics.
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US is ranked very high speed indexes. The idea that the US is slow is not even close to being true. Many of the countries that present their data tend to leave out rural areas where the US tends to cover them. Not every country does that but the vast majority do. People cannot expect to live in the middle of texas and get the same speeds as New York City.
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US has the worlds best education system.
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People were using it 20 years ago in the US as well.
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US has had cable since the 1940s.
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The US is not lagging and people need to stop believing certain media hype around issues. Trust me when I tell you that very few Americans would actually like living in other countries when they realize the differences and how wealthy life is in America.
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While the connections between the nodes of a computer may get really fast results from transferring data the actual circuits are still not going to be fibre based. Even Fiber optic networks still have to use traditional switching networks.
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EMAN67:RP forum US has had cable since the late 1940s.
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US is the same as everywhere else.
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The US has pharma, chip manufacturing, auto industry, energy industry, transport industry, military force and hundreds of other things. The reason it has this is due to the fact that government does not own everything and government has limitation. The average house price in the US is about $300000 USD and in Australia it is $600000 USD. When you include everything it is clear that the US is streets ahead and people just do not know about it.
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