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I can give you example, yesterday i was on main square with 4 girls and 2 guys from my college class standing and waiting for tram and i started conversation asking every one of them which path they are heading.
All of them answered except for one girl that was like,
- "why would you ask, why would you care, it's none of your business, it's my private life..." (she was just teasing, but still), i responded to her:
- "why would i not ask?, i am just making a conversation going. everyone said where they are going, what's the big deal" - i got an agreement form the group and whole focus was on her.
She kept teasing for a little bit more than she stopped for the rest of the night. I also told her in joking way that i will never ask her that question ever again because he clearly is upset by it (and i mean it). She gave me smile.
That also gives me fundation for future jokes. Simple line like: "I would ask you where are you going now but i said i will never do that again so..". That line will make her giggle for a bit.
The point is, as long as you act confidently and assuming that you are acting the way people should act in that social situation, you have nothing to worry about.
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It can't be pyhsically proved because everytime you make predicition, measurements fall apart cuze your interaction.. similar to quantum mechanics.
It would theoretically be possible from 3rd person perspective, from God's perspective looking at universe on a timeline, but from our point, impossible. It's like trying to see your back in a mirror by quickly turning around.
Having that said, determinism is only thing that makes sense. Free will exists within limitations of our being hence the laws, but absolute free will, not, not even the slightest. The way you decide to handle the situation and all of your internal desires, bla bla bla, is determined by past events.
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@bez1196 You are overrating religions (tho i am not familiar with all of them). Read the Bible once and you will be more confused than you were to begin with, because the wisdom is embedded in stories, which is "wisdom" but still not that helpful. It doesnt offer you any tangible reason why you should follow the teachings. This is were Jung, JP and others come with their articulations. They give you intellectually valid reasons to pursue the teachings.
Wisdom without articulation is not a real wisdom in my book. For example, you (or anyone), currently, in your unconscious, posses an incredible amount of information about the world, but you are not aware of it. The way it manifest itself is through intuition or gut feeling or conscience, you name it, but it's not a real wisdom.
JP said something like this: "You dont know what you dont know, but you also dont know what you know."
As far as origins of wisdom are considered, i believe it is similar to emergence of morality, through acting things out our unconscious mind detects patterns that lead to the best possible outcome (sustainable life for everyone in community), thats wisdom and thats what you read in stories, but it's not articulated.
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If you are really inteligent just rewatch the video again and you will get it. IQ is a predictor, not a rule. Obviously luck, your path in life and everything else will have the influence on zeros on your bank account, body fat, and so on. He never said that person with 122 IQ will in no circumstance be more successful than person with 142 IQ. IQ only gives you 36% (at most) prediction of life success, still other things matter.
You could say that EQ is just a "mix" between IQ and extraversion (Peterson said something like that), which means it's not separated, unique dimension of inteligence hence it doesn't exist as such.
Let me go with this analogy. There are 3 fundamental colors that we see. Red, Green and Blue. Analogously, openness (inteligence), extraversion, neuroticism, conscientiousness, agreeableness are fundamental properties of personality. By mixing colors and personality traits you get different colors and different people. Now you are arguing that EQ is real, while it is "real", strictly speaking, it's not fundamental color/property so there is not point of defining it (in psychology) because you get it by mixing two MORE fundamental properties.
It's like as if EQ was purple, you would get it by mixing red (let's say IQ) and blue (let's say extraversion).
Value of defining EQ is just as useful as defining different personalities like perfectionists or any other. What you have exprienced in your life are benefits of your different personalty traits along side your inteligence. There is only one inteligence. Inteligence mixed with different personality traits result in different range of success in different cirucmstances.
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@Daneiladams555 Exactly, it doesnt have inherit meaning, but this is cool part about your, mine and everyone's life. We are prisoners of our biology. What you feel, see, hear is determined by chemistry, physics, etc (this is not a cool part, stay with me). Considering evolution, what survives is the most compatible for survival, meaning that evolution must have taken care of the whole meaningless situation. There must be something within us (idk, neurotransmitter or hormone or both or perhaps something much more complex) that drive humans towards living. If there was nothing we wouldnt last till now. You dont have to intellectually attach meaning to anything abstract to live a meaningful life, your biology already takes care of that. Surround yourself with people who seem to do it right, copy them and you will probably get the same results. Check Jordan Peterson, he seems to help a lot of people in the same situation.
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Consider this: if you play a chess game against a superinteligent AI, but you start the game in a way you pre configure inevitable win for yourself in just two moves, meaning no matter what it does, you have an ability to defeat it with only two moves, it doesn't matter how inteligent it is, you always win. It can't break chess rules.
We have an upper hand in it (we can set any configuration we want), and if we are cautious enough, it can't get out of losing position. Analogously, chess rules are laws of physics. That means that no matter how inteligent it becomes it still has to obey laws, for example, it can't grow extremities out of nothing, which is our golden opportunity to fully control it. That also means one little mistake might be the last one we ever make, but we are reasonably inteligent ourselves so... i am confident about situation.
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Silver Night it's just called evolution that species has to make to become 3rd type of civlization (by Michu Kaku).
It's apstract to us at this very moment, not something we usually deal with, but it doesn't make it wrong at all.
if you tried to explain internet to Mayans it would be somethign mindblowing to them, now you connect on internet without thinking about how fascinating that actually is to be able to speak to someone on the other side of the planet.
Immortality is not something that will happen tommorrow, we (as a species) will gradually get to the point of immortality. First you we will cure cancer (very soon), it will be topic of history, then we will be able to create organs from scratch, then optionally changing genes, etc.. It will blend in our society and it won't seem as fascinating.
Obviously immortality raises many questions along the way. Ethical side of the story will be dealt with gradually as well, i don't know how we will think in future, that is left to be seen..
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I wouldn't agree that my life would be any different if i encountered Jordan Peterson earlier. I mean, put your life in context. In my case, being 20 myself, i am hitting that age at which things like that become relevant to me and i actually have enough sense to think about stuff like that. Obviously if you are 50 it doesn't apply the same way to you, but the point is that, i think, some things he talks about are probably too complex ideas to be taken seriously by a 15 year old kid (high school kid). He would just ignore everything that is said to him. (I know i had completely ignored reading high quality books for grades in a high school. Now it's completely different story. Back then, they just didn't appeal to me and i guess it would be the same way with things like this.)
I am not saying education as it is right now is right, or that there is nothing we can do to improve, on contrary, there are some principles Jordan talks about that could be (and should be) thought earlier, but nothing too extreme i would say. What's mostly wrong with the education is the system of how they learn, not what they learn.
It's not that big of a deal, especially because a curious kid, who wants to hear things like that in first place and is willing to act them out, will find ideas like that on internet on his own. People who would find talks like that useful are actually finding them via internet. Including me, you and everyone else watching this. People who are not searching for videos like this are the one who wouldn't find intrinsic value in them even if they watched it.
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- - , i talk from an experience. I used to say that i "hate" small talks, but as it turns out, i just wasnt good at it, and i love them now. I am an introvert, btw. After a huge party, i need 3 days for myself, to be with my thoughts only, to energize, then i am good to go again (definition of an introvertism is not that you dont like socializing, but that you get tired by it, opposed to extroverts who get energized by it). I love every bit of socializing, but not too often.
You might not like small talks, but hate is too strong word. It's like saying: "I love swimming, but i hate getting wet." It makes no sense. You are lying. Small talk is just a medium to get to deeper conversation, a stage of interaction in which you build trust. You need it, i need it, everybody needs it, that's why it is there so let go off your ego and fucking get good at it. You dont hate small talks, you just hate engaging in an activity you suck at. Do something about that!
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@laxifax-8575 oh man, this is anything but deep. I went down the rabbithole. I gave it much more thought than that and i think i understand it.
Let me ramble for a bit then tell me what you think:
Every sane human being lives in a story, meaning that everyone has certain assumptions, beliefs about life. You see the world through the lenses of that story. The story is what shapes your perception. Change the story you believe in, you change your perceptions of the physical world. For example, if you thonk you are a loser and you are destined to do nothing in life, you will see the events around you in the context of that narrative. Change the narrative and you change how you see that event. You have certain beliefs about who you are, what you want, where you are going (at least unconsciously you have) and there are people and things in life that fill in archtypes of your story. There have to be arxhtypes because every story is fundamentally built of many archtypes interacting with each other. Thats what story is in its purest form. Stories are all the same, the difference between them is only the context, or what fills archtypes. There is an archtype of a father figure, mother figure, hero, villain and so on. You can literally fill them with your father and mother(..), but more often than not, other people (even things) fill in that role. Thats unique for every single human being and ultimately what makes you different than others.
Christianity is just one of the infinite amount of stories you can live out. Whether its the best or not remains for the debate. My strong feeling is that it's not the best although it is pretty good and it served its purpose for millenials. The reason i think its outdated is because if you dont understand what i am saying right now, truely believing in the story of Christ, you will encounter a lot of friction in your life due to science. You will believe the Earth is flat while in fact it's not, and so on. You will think the bible is a factual story. It's not and it was never supposed to be. This is the story of how Christianity came about:
Imagine yourself 2500 years ago as the part of some stable civilization. Humans are infinitely curious and when we formed civilizations, our chances of survival, as an individual, skyrocketed. Due to the conveniences of group living, we didnt have to spend our whole lifes thinking about how to survive on day to day basis. We, all of a sudden, got a lot of free time. At that time humans being humans started wondering, stared asking difficult questions and at the time, because there was no science, we had no way to answer those questions. Here huge problem araises. We are obsessed with knowing things. People are not comfortable not knowing, living in complete ignorance, but we could not answer them with logic. So what did we do? As always, we started to create hypothesis. We began to create stories of who we are, where are we going to, where are we coming from. Sounds fimiliar? Hold on, it gets better.
So how do we go from humans started to create stories to the masterpiece that, objectively, the story of Christ, is? It takes the path of everything, that is complicated, does, the path of evolution. There was a mini evolution among stories that originated from the western culture. They were told from a generation to a generation and only stories that made sense, that were great, survived or were retold and ultimately have been written as the bible. It is the work of the principles of evolution and many anonymous writers and editors. Thats what accounts for complexity of religious texts. You can make a masterpiece and dont know why it is a masterpiece. The best way to demonstrate how that is possible is to reflect on yourself. Youve probably tried to, at one point in your life, create a storyn a movie or a series or a comic book, something. And youve probably had some amazing idea for plot that was so amazing you could barely stand the excitement youve experienced at that moment. Everybody had that moment. The question is, why did that plot make you feel excited and not some other plot? What is about storytelling thats so exciting? The answer is the same that guided writers and editors to the story of Jesus and thats that we intuitevly know when we hit the jackpot in storytelling and when we dont. Hitting the jackpot is the moment when we nail the archtypes of the story and we nail the way interact between each other in the way that makes perfect sense. This is where wisdom lies. That "perfect sense" is your brain telling you there is something fundamentally important about that.
Through series of "this makes sense" moments, people can create the bible without knowing why it makes sense. When Jordan Peterson goes out there and blows your mind with insights he got from the bible, what he is doing is explaining and artixulating why it makes sense.
And this is not unique to the bible, every story that has ever been told can be artixulated and explained. The best movies and books and series of all times completely nail the archtypes and their interactions which means all of them are full of wisdom. You can learn from them as muxh from the bible.
I could go on, but this is where my thoughts are about religion atm.
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Not true, WIldCard.
You can't know before actually losing someone out of your life (not necessary dead). For example, i was so anxious finishing high school. I knew my path will seperate from my very close friends who were basically everything in my past 4 years and i thought that i would rather live with them around for the rest of my life then without them. Guess what, 1 year into college and although i am still contact them, i don't miss them much at all and i have never been in better place than right now.
You can't know whether you would rather live with or without certain person before you actually lose them, impossible. No matter how close you were, eventually time will erase your attachment to them and you will continue to live free from them.
Another example is when you are in love with someone. Of course if you ask person who is in love right now with someone if he would rather live with or without her that he would prefer "with", but falling in love is just a feeling that comes and goes. One moment you are in love with her, another you couldn't care less about her.
The point is that only reason why would you think that you know whether you would rather live with, certain person, than without is because you are too damn close to the puzzle atm, you are too emotionally engaged which blinds you into thinking you know the answer, but
You don't know, you can't know.
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All that rambling while you haven't explained why we are obliged to act differently just because we can empathize. Where did you get that from? Bible? Intruding that opinion and your morals on someone else is actually against the fundamental law of being a human. You have no right to do that.
Life is a game. This is part of an evolution, there are no morals in the game of evolution, it is about survival of the fittest. We are the fittest,. the end.
People saying that is on the level of trying to force upon rules in war. It's war, there are no rules.
Only thing we should care about is how to improve our community thus our quality of life. And our community is fucking independent on whether there is a pig walking around or not so you can do to the pig whatever you want.
We should care about different things, like how to preserve bees and animals that we have use of... Those things like "oh, polar bears are about to be extinct, we should save them." Fuck polar bears, they are useless to us. Where would we get in long run if we were up to saving every fucking animal that goes remotely extinct?
Some animals are supposed to get extinct, it's called natural selection and as word say itself, it's NATURAL.
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Thomas, that first part of your comment scares the shit out of me like rarely something does. It seems that, as you get older, you lose ability to remain open minded. Einstein might be the most open minded person we have record of, he thought us how to look at fucking time, (as if there was something wrong in our perception of time, at the time) and so on, yet in his latter years of his life, he couldnt wrap his head around quantum physics insisting it was a complete nonsense. Now we know that Einstein's theories of relativity werent wrong per se, but just that there was more to life than that... i get the same feeling about Peterson,.. he is not wrong, but he fails to recognize (not open minded enough) that it's time to update some parts of his ideas, or rather, give a different dimension to it.
I value truth over anything else in life and whole notion that i could easily fall into closed minded mentality scares me. I was thinking a lot about it, how i could prevent that, and i came up with few ideas:
1. Stop identfying with anything other than what's factual about me. For example if i shared opinions of an atheist, i wouldnt call myself an atheist. By doing so you dont fall into "confirmation bias", "positive reinforcement" trap. Factual example would be something like, i am a human being, i am male, etc.
2. Use phrase "i think" a lot and dont let yourself get attached to your accomplishments of any sort because then pride gets you...
what do you think
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Mr. Note because it is.. life as a life is pointless, i completely agree on that part, but you can still find your purpose making it not fully pointless and making your life happy, which is basically ultimate goal.
It's apstract way of thinking.
On the scale of universe everything is pointless.
On the scale of emotions, life has a purpose.
Think of it this way. Think of the thing that gives you the most pleasure. For me it's comedy and football.
So what is the point of playing football? The point is to feel satisfication, to feel that pleasure and when you hit that state it makes you life pointful. You just ended "circle of purpose". maybe completing those cricles is pointless, but at least you will die as a happy man.
That's the thing with emotions, they are so strong that they make point themself.
I always say "think big, live small" refering to that. Think about universe, religion, psychology, history, AI, whatever you find the most intriguing, but live so that small things make you happy.
The situation we are in is not ideal, but why don't we get most out of the life we live in?
You never know, science might actually catch up with us so that we become immortal.
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what is the point/goal in football?
Only goal in football is to win thropy which is set by human. Does lack of natural purpose of football makes football any less entertaining to you? No, you still love every bit of it.
The same works for life in general, you set the goals and live happily ever after. You shouldn't be concerned about pointless of life on individual basis.
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About contribution to humanity:
The first of all we don't know what could and what will happen. Maybe we become immortal, there are literally no limits in life, everything is possible, we don't even know what's possible. Only way to find out is by keep improving science.
if you are not a genius yourself who can directly influence our improvment, at least be inspiration. They are countless of ways to do that (from being a great teacher, to being a good person in general)
For me, being inspiration for others is one of the most important things in my life and definitely the best way for me to contribute to humanity in general.
Don't ever understimate power of inspiration, everybody has to be inspired by someone even the greatest scientists of all time,.. read long time ago that Tesla got some idea on the river by observing some random guy.. That random guy is not even aware of his influence he had on human histoyr.
Isn't it inspiring that YOU, a single person who is part of something so huge (part of species that tries to survive in infinte universe) can actually easily change the course of human history?
Especially now, in era of internet, now easier then ever
Live happy life on individual scale, inspire people on the scale of humanity. You are part of something huge and very rare in universe. What more can you ask for?
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That's not the fundamental level you are talking about. You can't educate yourself if you have to work 12 hours a day to save you butt from starvation.
Try to empathize or at leas sympathize with people who don't have enough money for fundamental needs (you probably have since you didn't even consider that before writing down the comment). You don't even have to go that far. There are many people who eat the cheapest possible, unhealthy junk food every day because they can't afford anything better, they have terrible place to sleep on, and all those things, which would, even if they got proper education, restrict them from learning effectively out of it.
The most important thing is to make healthy lifestyle possible for anyone regardless of who they are by minimal basic income, then build on it by education. That way inteligent people will get an opportunity to reach their potential, and the less inteligent people would probably get stuck at the first stage, but there is nothing that can be done about that problem.
So first we have to deal with biological and physiological needs of every individual and then build upon it through education because education before meeting those fundamental needs is pointless and ineffective. No matter how smart you are, if you go 2 days without water you are not going to learn anything from the world class education.
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@KabzieMusic Things and objects are nor good nor bad, it's what human behaviour makes of them. Patterns of human behaviour are there, inside our psyche whether there are external things that allow it to manifest or not. An axe killer is an axe killer even if he doesnt have an axe around him. The solution in that case would be not to hide all axes, but to change the behaviour of the particular human being. The solution is not to not have social medias at all, but to change behaviour that makes people depressed. Just like in the case of the axe killer, behaviour is there whether there are social medias or not. All that social medias did was amplifying deeply flawed human instinct to the point it became obvious to everyone,.. and that's awesome, because now we have a deep insight into human psyche that we wouldnt have otherwise. Knowing it, we can adapt and change our lifestyle so we live a better life with less suffering.. how is that not the best thing that could have ever happened?
People who are suffering are people with a wrong, loser, weak mindset that would suffer regardless of the existence of social medias because, again, an object is never an issue, it's human's behaviour. If there were no social medias, they would have found something else to ruin their life with. It's their own responsibility to take care of their lifes. That might be cruel of me to say, but nature is cruel. The evolution (the truth) doesnt care about your feelings. You either have what it takes to survive (thrive) or you dont. It's a natural selection.
It's been like that for a looong time.
If you are suffering, it's time for YOU to take on a responsibility and change your mindset, not blame others for you addictions. Nobody else can help you if you dont help yourself. If you dont help yourself, you will continue suffering. That's the evolutionary deal.
So, in conclusion, i am extremely grateful for social medias because, now, i know more about what it takes to live a good life and i dont have to suffer as stupidly.
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My prediction, that i havent seen anyone saying so far, but is pretty inevitable imo, is that sports (current and yet-to-be-created ones) and competitions, of any sort, will become something we all just do all the time. The dude from above said there will be no jobs and that that will leave people with nothing to do, leading to depression, which is true, but solution is not that difficult. You dont have to earn money to feel like your time spent on an activity is worthwhile (they are countless of retired people who feel great doing one of their hobbies daily), you just need to be engaged in something, anything and that's where sports and various competitions come into story.
When you think of football, for example, it's pretty ridiculous to think about what footballers actually do, strategically kicking ball to score a goal. The sport is completely arbitrary with no greater purpose other than to entertain and yet millions of people find purpose in everyday training, dedicating their entire lifes to the arbitrary goal of becoming the best version of a football player as they can. Even after they've earned enough money for 10 lifes, they retire and become football managers for next 20 years. People can get occupied pretty easily so what will happen is that many new, arbitrary activities will be created in which people will find their peace.
Now, i am not saying that is everything to it, but you roughly get an idea of what people will be doing, after all, we are just bunch of hormones raising and dropping its levels, we are not that tough to fool. Ensure stimulation of dopamine, oxytocin and few others, and will be fine.. how hard can it be?
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Nonsense, don't listen to that.
What you have to do is:
1. Think about having perfect life, but really think about it. If you could have anything you want in your life what would you have? If you could have perfect relationships with your wife, childrens, friends, family, what would they be like? If you could have perfect career, what would it be like?, etc. That's your ultimate goal. The thing is that you are imperfect so you will never quite reach that goal, but the progress you make towards it will make you happy in general
2. Plan step by step (goal by goal) how would you attain such life. The smaller milestones, the better. Reaching those goals will make you happy and since they are small it will happen constantly.
3. That's it
So the formula is.. Dream as big as you can, plan as detailed as you can.
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Somehow everyone thought that by goals i meant money, fame, etc. I meant goal as in pursuing things of higher values to you, like mastering skills youd like to attain, developing relationships with people you like, etc.
Biologically, we know that brain, due to neuroplasticity, changes all the time, since your birth till you die, thats given.. now, you can change in infinitely many ways and that's not good. For a sane life, you HAVE TO one way or another, consciously or unconsciously, determine states of mind of higher value (based on your value systems) and transform into that. That's your goal.
It is worth mentioning that the goal has to be idealistic so you can never actually reach it. Its not important whether you ever come close to the ideal, but you need direction in life and a goal of that kind provides you with one.
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@spinnetti goals give you direction, that's their only function. If you keep achieving goals, they are not high enough by definition. Be idealistic and specific. An example of a great goal: Wanting to provide every single person a free access to the internet.
Youll never achieve that, it's specific, it gives you something to work with, to do, to build your career on and so on. Now, you might not want to be a tech guy, so you find a goal that suits your interests. It might be a bit less noble like being a phenomenal spouse / parent. That will keep you engaged. Those are all goals.
Whatever anyone might say, Alan Watts had goals. He wanted to be an excellent teacher, to share his wisdom, hence the video. That was his goal (it can be yours as well). He wasnt living in some bs "now moment", goalless,.. nobody sane lives without goals. The whole point of having a brain is to pursue things (look around in nature) so people should stop spreading the hate towards the word "goals". It's a fine word, essential actually
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It seems to me as all that amplifying could lose its worth once amplifying becomes too common. We are perhapse in the sweatspot, so to speak, where certain individuals have more impact than ever before, but it looks to me that that could go back to normal standards due to potential overflood of information.
For example, those terrorist attacks have had really big impact at the time when they weren't as common as they are now. At the moment, every few weeks something happens,. so we became sort of used to it, which directly makes their attacks less impactful.
What i am trying to say is that if everyone has access to media, and that way countless of people, it makes the content you say less impactful since you are just one of many. Another analogy that i could make is the one Peterson already mentioned (if i understoof him correctly), .. printing machine, when it came, the very first books that were printed were highly influencial since there were only few. Over time there have been so many that amplifying effect lowered down. it seems to me like that's the future of social medias. We are at the begining of it when impact is the highets... but you know, you never know.
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I am more concerned because of the harm it does to an environment and the fact that is unsustainable in a long run than any of the moral things. It would be cool if unnecessary suffering was brought to minimum, but naah.. people are too empathetic, which is an awful thing to be. It goes deeper than what you think. You will gladly smack the shit out of a musquito if it landed on you, so killing, by itself, obviously is not an issue. There is something deeper going on. We can argue what but here are several facts to consider: Some mammals (majority, i would say), like cats, do not experience grief when their fucking youngling dies, none whatsoever! They just move on with their lifes like nothing happened. Cow would gladly kill you given the upperhand and decent enough motivation, and would experience no guilt or regret whatsoever, not to mention that no animal whatsoever is even close to the complexity of our experiences. You literally can't empathize with animals. The reason you dont care if you step on an ant, but you feel bad if you hit a dog is because dog is much more similar looking animal to human, so you think that you understand what is going through,.. no you dont, dont be an arrogant ass thinking you can play God deciding which animal is cool and which not cool to kill. You dont have that right. If there was an alien far more complex than chicken but it looked nothing like human, you would be okay killing it, i guarantee you that. The bottom line is that you are too empathetic about it, get over it
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It's obviously an issue of boundaries, how do you know where to cross a line between, "yeah, it's okay to kill a snake", to, "chickens have rights"? What is the exact level of complexity animal needs to have to transcend killing by us?
If you say "emotions", consider that every animal that moves, in any way, has, at least, a primitive emotional system. There is no black and white in nature, everything exists in a spectrum.. where do you cross a line in a spectrum?
People are not thinking this through!!!
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