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Comments by "Be N S O N" (@Colddirector) on "Understanding Napoleon | 5 Minute Video" video.
flavione84 I actually kind of like Caligula, a lot of the “crazy” things he did were really to humiliate the senate, which he did in spades.
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@SC-zu6fe You constantly call the left fascist, yet the people who marched through charlottesville in 2017 saying the jews will not replace them overwhelmingly supported trump
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Mindblaster Mindblaster Antifa is fundamentally antifascist, the polar opposite on pretty much every political axis. It’s literally in the name: Antifascist Action
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Mindblaster Mindblaster Fascism isn’t just violence, it’s got a very specific definition, stated in a previous post. Antifa are overwhelming anarchist-left, which is as far from totalitarian right as you can possibly get.
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TheTriggeredDuck Trump is an individual who’s made his thoughts on many subjects very clear. that’s completely different to blanket statements about an organisation like Antifa. A better analogy would be trump supporters, which i have engaged in a lot of discussion with but nonetheless have not made a similar blanket statement about like you did for Antifa. My point wasn’t that you can’t have an opinion though, more that it’s foolish to paint Antifa as delusional or fascist when you’ve only consumed media about them and never actually talked to one about what they think & believe.
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john pepin I know I’m arguing with everyone in this thread but I’d also add Meditations by Marcus Aurelius to that pile. It’s a stirring, relevant and introspective read by a Roman Emperor and a great start on stoicism
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Daniel b Okay, for one: Stalinist USSR was an autocratic coup, it was originally meant to be a union of councils that vote on policies, not one man ruling all. Venezuela is a mess for numerous geopolitical reasons, up to an including CIA shenanigans. Second: the democrat party of the 1800s is a completely different animal to the democratic party of today. Not least of which due to a well documented switch with the republicans that happened over the course of the 20th century. Besides, leftists at most tolerate the Democratic Party as a bunch of pathetic neoliberal corporatists. If you’re looking for blind defence of the Democrats, you’re looking in the wrong place.
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@Interceptor Probably too much spine, their vindictive war reparations towards Germany created a perfect breeding ground for the Nazis.
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TheTriggeredDuck I never said you were all fascists, but between the alt right, the groupers, people like Steve King, your side is infested with fascists.
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TheTriggeredDuck I don’t think all conservatives are racist, but most racists are right wing, at least in the US. Since I’ve answered your question , answer one honestly for me - have you ever actually talked to a member of Antifa? Or are you just repeating what you’ve been told about them?
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Mindblaster Mindblaster That is a restriction on free speech they impose, which alone isn’t fascist but can be construed as anti free speech, but two things - 1. Very few people agree on absolute free speech - if I stand outside a trump rally with a sniper rifle saying I am going to shoot and kill the president, I very seriously doubt that rally goers would tolerate that, for good reason. 2. They aren’t advocating a state to repress this speech, they’re advocating individuals to repress it, while actual fascists would want the state to repress speech.
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john pepin The Nazis did indeed have some economically left policies, but did so while kicking women and minorities out of the work force and instilling a fierce xenophobic nationalism in the people. The socialist policies were at best a gimmick to string the people along
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Daniel b yes. your caricature. the one you’re using to avoid talking about the actual definitions of these terms. systemic inequality isn’t pseudoscience just because it hurts your feelings. sorry.
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@theseasnakewhisperer8649 The alternative was Paris being levelled by the Nazis. France really didn't have much of a choice.
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Studd Muffin More like the entire city, most of its heritage and subjected its population to a much worse fate than occupation.
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D DIESEL Russia’s scorched earth strategy overextended Napoleons lines and proved catastrophic for his campaign. France is right next to Germany, a scorched earth policy would’ve accomplished almost nothing.
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TheTriggeredDuck How am I fascist?
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Mindblaster Mindblaster 1. The Democratic Party, at least the mainstream faction, are neoliberal scum - economically right while slightly culturally left, actual leftists at best tolerate them. Neither of those two are “far-right”.
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TheTriggeredDuck how about you try actually understanding what I’m saying before laughing at what you’re being trained to laugh at?
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TheTriggeredDuck You can debate whether you believe they are accomplishing that goal, but that is the mission statement of Antifa and what it’s members believe they are doing. There’s no super secret plan to take over society, even if they wanted that they’re not organised enough to do it. They literally just show up where they think Nazis are.
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The Ultimate Chad You mean like the right wing terrorism that’s been on the rise in the US recently? Or the abortion center bombings?
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Lochness Monsta not a globalist. globalism is a neoliberal project. sorry try again.
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TheTriggeredDuck yet you feel comfortable making blanket statements about a group you’ve never actually interacted with. Why is that?
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TheTriggeredDuck not sure what you were going for with that, but I agree that men should have the right to relinquish parenthood during early pregnancy. A financial abortion if you will
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Daniel b It really isn’t a blind defense, it’s well backed fact that the parties switched over time. I’m really not sure how you think the Democrats are treating minorities like incompetents or children, so I can’t answer that. Also if you think the Democratic Party is down with communism, you either don’t understand what communism is or aren’t actually paying attention. The establishment dems are desperately fighting to keep Bernie and Warren out of the lead and they’re barely even socialist.
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Sol Yens you seem very dead set in your opinion, so do just one thing for me - search up “Richard Spencer Hail Trump” and tell me what you think
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TheTriggeredDuck You mean of alt right people that support Trump? I’ve got more if you want. Spencer’s just the most prominent - especially early in the Trump era.
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TheTriggeredDuck I wasn’t trying to “prove” anything with that post, I was debunking the other guys notion that no alt righter supports Trump. I’m trying to give you an alternate perspective. Should I just snort arrogantly at you and say “Oh, I’m above talking to you, CHILD. You’re just too IMMATURE to get it.”. Is that what you want?
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Sol Yens the “it’s just a meme bro” defense wears kinda thin when the guy doing it is an avowed white nationalist.
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Daniel b The benefits I believe you’re talking about are compensatory - attempting to adjust for systemic inequalities. It’s about presenting opportunities to people who never would’ve had opportunities presented to them. You can disagree that those structural inequalities exist, but nobody but alt-right idiots think that minorities are incompetent. I agree that this conversation is over unless you can see past your cartoon caricature of socialism and actually learn what it means.
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TheTriggeredDuck No, but you seem to think you are, considering you bringing up your age
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Daniel b Are you trying to say that Spencer isn’t a white nationalist?
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Sol Yens Alt righters are very stupid people, but they were also attracted to Trumps anti-immigrant populism. Stuff like the wall, and completely shutting down Muslim immigration, enough to look past his connections to Jews. And I’ve already explained that the benefits you’re probably talking about are meant to offset structural disadvantages, meaning those held back by factors beyond their control.
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Mykon PT I mentioned their beliefs to make a point the only thing that can be construed as fascist by Antifa is the political violence against fascists, and even then they generally, as anarchists, do not support a state suppressing fascist speech. Beyond that, their ideology and praxis are about as far from fascist as you possibly get, since fascists are auth-right and Antifa are overwhelmingly anarchist left
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Tuhljin Tampergauge Please quote the rest of that post, I very clearly elucidated that almost nobody, even on the right, is a free speech absolutist.
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