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Armored cars irl: are actually armored, have NBC protection, can fit dozen guys, can carry a high caliber cannon or mortar, several ATGMs, autocannon, HMGs, sometimes all of the above at the same time, can swim.
Armored cars in games: best I can do is 3 dudes, open top, half of M2 and you'll all drown.
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>SUSAT is called old(surprised that we're at this point)
>All of the so called near pear opponents, who are not NATO members either have worse and less widespread scopes(China) or don't have scopes for the troops at all(Russia)
So how exactly is it obsolete? If you have infinite budget you can likewise buy one of those Boston Dynamics robots and give it a rifle. Does it make humans obsolete? Nope, you're just showing off with your finances:D All those thermal digital scopes with automatic correction for weather, barrel bend, Earth rotation, tine dilation and so on are 1)very expensive, heavy, fragile and need someone smarter then normal grunt to operate; 2)provide miniscule increase in effectiveness of the soldier. Compared to just making sure that they're fed, warm and rested that's placebo effect. Because soldiers aren't tanks, IFVs or helicopters, their weapons don't benefit from all that extra accuracy. You can mount Hubble as a scope to your pistol, it'll still be just a pistol. Just with almost two dozen tons of extra dead weight...
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@cnlbenmc there is an old anecdote from the 60-70's:
Border between West and East Germany in the open field.
Out of nowhere a tank bristling with antennas and cameras rides out from western side, crosses the field, makes a loop and goes back. There was alarm, there was small arms fire, there were a few shots, but all missed. Nobody got hurt. Apparently that tank is an unmanned drone. Commander comes in evening and berates everyone.
Next morning same tank reappears with slightly changed equipement arrangement, crosses the border, makes the loop and goes back. Now it got hit a few times, but it didn't care. Commander berates everyone again then gets a call from higher ups berating him.
Next morning situation repeats. More hits, but results are just as empty. A party member arrives and talks to commander.
Next morning is the repeat. Party member observes it and tells something to commander. Commander leaves and returns in the evening in a truck. Hauling an old long barreled high velocity 15cm AA gun. During the night soldiers and sappers construct a position for the beast.
Next morning the tank reappears, crosses the border and vanishes from this Earth. Party members leaves, commander gets a recommendation, soldiers get praised for high readiness and accuracy.
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1)WWII started in 1937 with Sino-Japanese War and americans were supplying chinese with weapons, other equipment and provisions, putting embargo on Japan and having reporters cover the events in the news. What was Poland doing in 1937-1938? Demonstrating the most incompetent foreign policies imaginable by helping Germany put a squeeze on czechs.
2)Finland realised the importance of military readiness, while Poland in 1939 had a parade military. When UK advisors told polish high command to retreat and entrench behind rivers, poles said that they know better. Finns meanwhile accepted all the advice they could get and already incorporated most of it beforehand because they were competent.
3)in 1991 Poland, Ukraine, Georgia, Romania and many other finally independent Warsaw Pact and USSR states had a chance to create a joint military commission to modernize their militaries and provide a competition to russian arms industry on global market. You preferred your petty squabbles instead. Instead all we hear about are fake projects like PL-01 that are aimed to steal budget funds.
4)Russia already attacked 2 GUAM members and haven't attacked Moldova only because Ukraine held. For now. If it keeps holding, they'll attack it again in 4 years. After that their sights would be on Baltics. Will Poland help defend Baltics, all of which ARE NATO members? Idk. But what I do know is that when russian cruise missile hit polish farmers, you've lied about it being ukranian SAM, which can't even glide and is optimized for fragmentation ie there would be no tractor left. You lied because you didn't want conflict with Russia.
So where does that leave us, eh? After decades polish government decided to finally have military budget, but it remains to be seen if all those weapons bought from US and South Korea would help you get an actual military or if it'll be a parade one like in 1939. And if your foreign policy attitude has changed or if you'll help Russia put a squeeze on Baltics when it'll attack. You scream on top of your lungs about remembering lessons of history instead of getting up and DOING something. I'll believe it when I see it.
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@peterj5083 kiddo, since you have internet, I'll give you simple directions - open Wikipedia, open WWII article, open list of conflicts that comprised WWII, open Second Sino-Japanese War in that very list and look at when said conflict started. It's 1937. If you disagree with that, all the pages have sources listed below. You're free to send letters describing your disagreement with them to all the (still living) authors. Until then, WWII started in 1937 and lasted until 1945(though some may say that WWII didn't truly end until Korean War). And as south and east asian economies grow, more people there can afford higher education, more and more historians would have more incentive to not focus on Europe alone, more and more sources would admit that it was 1937.
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@levilastun829 I'm not going to open up the whole comment chain to look up what changed in several months, but in case I didn't mention it or you somehow overlooked it:
1)M900 has much longer penetrator. If I was talking on this topic, I likely mentioned that I specifically mean 2A46Msomething on T-72 ie when it was heavily limited to rod length. T-90A has de facto the same gun, but due to reworked autoloader it doesn't have the same problem. Idk why people find it so hard to comprehend something as basic.
Okay, I'll give an easy example. Think of it this way, if it'll be easier for you - you can install 100mm D-10 in turret of T-34/76(1942), you will just need massive muzzle break, massive counterweight, you would be limited to using only low pressure ammo, you will need to cut a hole in the back of the turret for recoiling gun breach, you will be able to reload it only from outside because there is no space for human left inside the turret and you will need to pray before each shot. Does it make D-10 a worse gun on T-54 or SU-100? Nope. But we're not talking about T-54 or SU-100.
Warning! This is an analogy, an example to explain what I've meant. Please don't derail the conversation into it.
2)MRD stands for muzzle reference device, yes. First ever use by Russia was on T-90M in 2016, almost 3 decades after it became standard for NATO even on old refurbished tanks due to the requirements of increased FCS accuracy.
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@levilastun829 @levilastun829 I'm not going to open up the whole comment chain to look up what changed in several months, but in case I didn't mention it or you somehow overlooked it:
1)M900 has much longer penetrator. If I was talking on this topic, I likely mentioned that I specifically mean 2A46Msomething on T-72 ie when it was heavily limited to rod length. T-90A has de facto the same gun, but due to reworked autoloader it doesn't have the same problem. Idk why people find it so hard to comprehend something as basic.
Okay, I'll give an easy example. Think of it this way, if it'll be easier for you - you can install 100mm D-10 in turret of T-34/76(1942), you will just need massive muzzle break, massive counterweight, you would be limited to using only low pressure ammo, you will need to cut a hole in the back of the turret for recoiling gun breach, you will be able to reload it only from outside because there is no space for human left inside the turret and you will need to pray before each shot. Does it make D-10 a worse gun on T-54 or SU-100? Nope. But we're not talking about T-54 or SU-100.
Warning! This is an analogy, an example to explain what I've meant. Please don't derail the conversation into it.
2)MRD stands for muzzle reference device, yes. First ever use by Russia was on T-90M in 2016, almost 3 decades after it became standard for NATO even on old refurbished tanks due to the requirements of increased FCS accuracy.
Double posting this wall of text since YT will lilely shadowban any comment about weapons at random. Maybe second one will be visible.
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