Comments by "June VanDerMark" (@junevandermark952) on "The Majority Report w/ Sam Seder" channel.

This is what catapulted Jordan to instant fame. It is an opinion (supported by many people in religion) of the content with which I absolutely do not agree, and that is Jordan's opinion that the Canadian government is "forcing" him to use words that he refuses to use, when in truth, he simply doesn't have to address the subject at all. I'm a heterosexual, and I certainly don't feel "forced" to use new terminology that shows respect for a group that have in the past been so terribly persecuted. It would be my honor, to in turn honor them. I suggest that Jordan's problem to address those who are other than male or female, stems from his bible "usage," that a god is offended. I was indoctrinated in a Christian culture and know full well that devotees of Christianity (especially in the good old days) believed that "God spoke through words in the bible, that said that 'HE" created male and female ... period ... end of subject." From my perspective, in this era we should know better ... and go beyond religious archaic hyperbole ... to be respectful of each other's gender differences.
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Jordan sometimes weeps when he speaks the word "Jesus." From the book “God’s Bullies,” by Perry Deanne Young. That the religious were so concerned about other people’s drinking habits and sex lives said much more about them and their own minds than it did about those they regarded as sinners. In the name of Jesus and God, they had perpetrated all kinds of little cruelties on others and had meanwhile fooled themselves into thinking they could do no wrong because they were always carrying out God’s will.
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@Dubbadizzo86 Following are Jordan’s nefarious words (verbatim) “Gender identity and gender expression are not valid ideas. They are not true. There is no evidence for it. I don’t know what the options are, if you don’t identify as a man or a woman. There is an idea that there’s a gender section. I think that is an ill-informed opinion. Gender identity and sexual orientation are the same thing. I don’t believe these people, these terms, stand for good things. I think these people use these terms as a pretense that they stand for good things; as a pretense for them to carry on their nefarious activities.” Shame on Jordan.
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@Dubbadizzo86 I suggest that Jordan became famous on YouTube podcasts, because to followers such as evangelicals, who believed as he believed, that the bible clearly states that a god created male and female ... which of course doesn't leave room for those who don't fit that "design." However, had he been a Muslim promoting that idea, I suggest that he would still be back teaching his nonsense at the university in Toronto.
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In the name of one god or another, people in religion have been adjusting the genitals of children for eons of time ... and they perceived and many still perceive that circumcision for boys and girls as being not only natural ... but ordained as being HOLY and necessary ... to prevent EVIL behavior. From the book “A Singular Iniquity—The Campaigns of Josephine Butler, author, Glen Petrie. In 1858 clinics existed in many cities entirely devoted to Clitoridectomy. In boys, masturbation led to insanity and in girls it led to nymphomania and the brothel …(England).
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@Dubbadizzo86 No Atheist would find practical anything out of Jordan's biblical talk. I suggest that you are fibbing about being an Atheist. “I act as if God exists, and I’m terrified he might.” ~ Jordan Peterson
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@Dubbadizzo86 I don't believe you, or Jordan, so you might as well go post to somebody else because I am going to ignore you.
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@Dubbadizzo86 Okay ... I'm wide awake now, so I will carry on for awhile with your Jordan Peterson-"like" ramblings. Do you believe that Jordan is an Atheist? Please make your response "short" and to the point. "Yes," or "no?"
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@Dubbadizzo86 If Jordan is not honest about his religious "intentions" ... why would anyone trust him to be honest about any other subject? I suggest he craves to have a following ... period. You and I both know, that if Jordan said he was an Atheist, he would lose not only his Christian followers ... but his followers that are in all other religions. People in religion, do not trust Atheists to know truth of any sort ... period. Apparently, not everyone is convinced that Peterson is a thinker of substance. Last November, fellow University of Toronto professor Ira Wells called him “the professor of piffle”—a YouTube star rather than a credible intellectual. Tabatha Southey, a columnist for the Canadian magazine Macleans, designated him “the stupid man’s smart person”.
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@Dubbadizzo86 If the bible is full of wisdom, why did Catholics and Protestants kill each other in the name of Jesus? Does that mean that they couldn't find wisdom in the bible ... or that there never was any wisdom to be found in the bible?
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@Dubbadizzo86 I didn't see any questions in your post, but rather just statements.
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If you want to study Christian political corruption caused by biblical interpretation in the United States, I suggest you study history of the death penalty. Aren’t you lucky to have not lived back in that era? From the book … The Death Penalty: An American History … author … Stuart Banner. That glimmer grew into a blaze in the 1760s and 1770s, as more and more Americans began to question the appropriateness of capital punishment for property crime. “Who can avoid pitying poor young fellows, whose existence is cut off in the prime and viguor of life, for the paltry theft of a handkerchief, or of a watch, or for writing a few words on a slip of paper, with a fraudulent intention?” asked the Georgia Gazette in 1767. "More than two hundred death penalties are gone from the law books, but the texts that authorized them remain. "Bible Teaching and Religious Practice," Europe and Elsewhere" Mark Twain
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I'm a Canadian, and I'm very thankful that we no longer live under the laws of what were once imposed by the supposed god-fearing Christians. From the book … Drop Dead: A Horrible History of Hanging in Canada, author … Lorna Poplak. Capital punishment, the execution of someone found guilty of a crime, dates back to arrival of the European explorers on our shores. In those days, if you were condemned to death, quite a wide range of methods could be used to punish you. You could be hanged, or face a firing squad, or be burned at the stake. Although Canada remained a collection of separate British colonies until Confederation in 1876, a Royal Proclamation in 1763 replaced the prevailing Canadian legal system with the laws of England. By the end of the 1700s in Britain, however, the litany of crimes regarded as sufficiently horrible to warrant the death penalty had swelled to 220, including nefarious acts as keeping company with gypsies or skulking in the dark with a blackened face. In 1828, Patrick Burgan of Saint John, New Brunswick, aged eighteen or nineteen, received the death penalty for the double offence of stealing a watch and some money from his former employer and clothing from a sailors’ boarding house. Given the power and pre-eminence of religion in Canada at that time, your very life would have been in jeopardy if you were caught scrawling slogans on the side of a church. You could also be hanged for stealing your neighbor’s cow, which was the fate of B. Clement of Montreal. And just in case you thought that the law protected the young as it does today, think again. Children were regarded as miniature adults and treated as such — Clement was only thirteen years old when executed.
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I wonder if Jordan OR Dave would "go out to dinner" with someone who is transgender? My guess is both of them would decline.
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@Dubbadizzo86 The actual quotes are as I quoted ... and if you don't believe me, go to YouTube podcast ... University of Toronto Academic Forum on Bill C-16, and here the women quote him verbatim, after which he did not correct her in any way whatsoever. So I suggest that you stop lying. Following are Jordan’s nefarious words (verbatim) “Gender identity and gender expression are not valid ideas. They are not true. There is no evidence for it. I don’t know what the options are, if you don’t identify as a man or a woman. There is an idea that there’s a gender section. I think that is an ill-informed opinion. Gender identity and sexual orientation are the same thing. I don’t believe these people, these terms, stand for good things. I think these people use these terms as a pretense that they stand for good things; as a pretense for them to carry on their nefarious activities.”
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And it is obvious that you agree with Jordan that there isn't any identity, except male and female, which is also an absolute lie. From the book … The Seven Mysteries of Life. Guy Murchie The most striking example of a well-adjusted human hermaphrodite I’ve heard of is the individual reported in Lisbon in 1807 as having normal sperm-producing testicles and “some beard on the chin” but otherwise the appearance of a slim-hipped, attractive girl with graceful figure, adequate bosom and charmingly feminine voice, not to overlook the usual female organs which functioned well enough that she-he had already been pregnant twice between presumed affairs in which he-she may in turn have impregnated others.
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@Dubbadizzo86 I don't know about you, but I relate to the old saying ... "If you aren't true to one or two, you won't be true to me." Author unknown. A spoof on agnosticism Two agnostics sat on a fence Pondering on how humans are dense Wondering which way the wind would blow Losing their balance to fall below "If we fall on the side where religion is real" One said to the other "I will appeal To God's holy grace for having doubt Of his existence and his mighty clout." The other agnostic soon agreed That falling for God and his holy creed Would save them from a writhing hell Where forever they just might dwell. Soon they climbed down off the fence Convincing each other religion made sense Why would they want to upset God Who has all the power with but a nod So the two agnostics became believers No more would they choose to be deceivers Doubting Thomases they would not be Safe in God's arms for eternity. June VanDerMark November 27, 2017
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@Dubbadizzo86 I wrote the following June 10, 2017 An animal am I An animal am I ... grounded from the sky No gods to love or hate me ... no angels flying by My earthly journey is but short ... as nature has designed I pride myself for leaving ... all religion far behind Most of my life was squandered ... by confusion of the quest To know if a god existed ... or if it was a human test They taught us that religion ... demanded our respect But only if it was our own ... all others to reject They trampled each other to their graves ... as religious wars they fought Meanwhile they taught that God is love ... and knows our every thought If a god just happens to exist ... it ought to be ashamed The suffering of all forms of life ... should not have brought it fame As death draws near ... I understand that I will soon depart And so I give these words to you ... from the bottom of my heart Please teach your children to not trust ... that you have the answers When all you have are opinions ... and are naught but flighty dancers
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@Dubbadizzo86 Theology will be a bore Come good Christians … own a Jew We will play that game with you We’ll tell you what you long to hear That a god will hold you dear Bring your money and your brain That we will train for our domain We will teach you how to fight To defend with all your might As theologians we are proud That you follow us and preach so LOUD There’ll come a day when you will see We lied to you … you will agree You’ll see that Jesus was a myth As were all saviors meant to lift To dominate emotions high And take them soaring to the sky When that day comes and come it will You’ll free your selves from our swill You will choose to fight no more Theology will be a bore June VanDerMark July 25, 2013
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@Dubbadizzo86 The Catholic myth Oh little child of Bethlehem You will not be a Jew Except in ethnicity I know that it is true Once you see the truth Of the Catholic MIGHT You will leave Judaism As a frightful SIGHT Now you I are best of Buds You know that it is true Because I am a Catholic And not a nasty Jew Jesus you are one of us A Catholic you see And we will be in heaven For eternity I hope I got your message right And no mistake I made I preach and preach with all my might That you have made the grade. Oh little child of Bethlehem I'm glad you're not a Jew Except in ethnicity And that you can't undo June VanDerMark December 25, 2014
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Another problem that arose in the Middle East, was when Donald Trump in 2018 (probably at the urging of his Jewish son-in law Jarod Kushner … other Jews … and Christians) chose to move the embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem … which pleased the Jews and Evangelical Christians … but in turn infuriated the Muslim Palestinians … who regard East Jerusalem as a future Palestinian State. Most everything the Jews, Muslims and Christians have done in the Middle East …“have” escalated the irritation among the three right-fighting religions of Judaism … Christianity … and Islam. Holy mission … and Holy land … it is NOT. If the haughty words … Judaism, Islam and Christianity were removed from the language ... all that would be left is naked human animals ... of no significant importance whatsoever … except to their naked selves. There is hope ... however … as there are now hundreds of ex members of clergy that have joined The Clergy Project, to find employment elsewhere. From the book ... Apostle to Apostate: The Story of the Clergy Project … authors … Catherine Dunphy, Richard Dawkins As former clergy who have left churches of every denomination, synagogues, mosques, convents, monasteries, and theological institutions, we stand as examples of the reasonableness of doubt and its thoughtful conclusions. I cannot help but think that we offer a compelling voice for why science and secularism do a better job than religion and superstition of answering the so-called ultimate questions.
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Gentle words, from a gentle man. From the book Starry Messenger … Cosmic Perspectives on Civilization … author Neil deGrasse Tyson … As you might suspect among branches of scientific inquiry, those most susceptible to human bias are fields that study and judge the appearance, conduct, and habits of other humans. Topping the list, find psychology, sociology, and especially anthropology. If they are to establish and preserve their integrity, these fields must engage extra levels of peer review and disclosure, with the express purpose of spotting bias. One day, we may discover or otherwise affirm no discrete categories at all, as the multidimensional gender universe unfolds along a continuum, like the colors contained in sunlight. This will significantly dilute the power of homophobic and transphobic bigots to declare that they are somehow separate and distinct from other members of their own species. Many people, who defend our cherished freedoms as citizens of the US, will argue against mandated masks, helmet laws, gun laws, seatbelts, and anything else that constricts a person from living the way they want. Odd that many of these same people will maintain or seek laws to restrict another person’s free expression of their gender identity.
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Religion divides people from each other. It never was "good" ... and never will be ... good. If you want to know where the hatred of Jews started and then spread around the world … Catholics published the first anti-Semitic Christian bible. If true ... the following words were quoted by John Chrysostom ... Catholic anti-Semite ... who by the way was given the title of "Golden Mouth" by those early devout Catholics. “Although such beasts are unfit for work, they are fit for killing. And this is what happened to the Jews: while they were making themselves unfit for work, they grew fit for slaughter. This is why Christ said: ‘But as for these my enemies, who did not want me to be king over them, bring them here and slay them’". And the following are words from the Catholic bible … Luke 19:27 Douay-Rheims Bible But as for those my enemies, who would not have me reign over them, bring them hither, and kill them before me. Had Jesus been real ... he would not have supported any religion but Judaism ... and his fictitious mother would have scoffed at the idea of being a Catholic saint ... as she also would have been faithful only to Judaism. The suffering put upon humans by those in religions is what really was and IS of the most egregious "IMMORAL" behavior. As a species ... WE should be ashamed!!!
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The point should be that all the people involved did not mean to cause any harm to others.
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