Comments by "June VanDerMark" (@junevandermark952) on "Proof, Something HUGE is Coming…" video.

Thanks for honoring my freedom of speech. If Jordan is serious about his faith in the existence of a god ... maybe rather than continually worrying his self and others ... he should be praying "Let thy will be done." “I act as if God exists, and I’m terrified he might.” ~ Jordan Peterson
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@studio28music97 Even when I was still confused by my religious indoctrination ... I never "could" swallow that religious story that others were evil or bad ... while "I" was "holy" or "good" in comparison. I suggest that we are all a mess of emotions and confusion. And that is why I relate to the following quote by Tom Peters ... "“If you’re not confused, you’re not paying attention."
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@scout2469 "Let thy will be done," doesn't mean to pray to a god to fix anything ... unless of course he WANTS to intervene. It just means "I won't try to pretend what god wills for me ... or for others." I'm an Atheist now, so I don't believe the scribes were taking messages from gods "in the first place" ... but I do believe they were all imaging what a god would say ... IF the god existed. Example ... from the book TALK TALK TALK By Jay Ingram … an investigation into the mystery of speech … If it sounds all too bizarre, take Jaynes’s favorite example, Homer’s Iliad. This epic poem comes down to us, Jaynes argues, from pre-conscious or bicameral times. He claims that there are almost no examples in the Iliad of anyone acting on his own free will, or making decisions of any kind that aren’t dictated by the gods. They never sit down and decide what to do. When Agamemnon steals Achilles’ mistress, a god warns Achilles not to retaliate. Gods start the quarrels that cause the war, gods plan the strategy, a god leads the armies into battle, a god whispers to Helen, gods do everything. When Achilles reminds Agamemnon that he has stolen his mistress, Agamemnon replies, “Not I was the cause of the act, but Zeus …” The Iliad is only one example: there are many others that can be interpreted as showing that people at that time needed their own auditory hallucinations to act.
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@kalburgy2114 So, if you believe you are not holy or good ... then you must believe that you are evil or bad. Religion doesn't HAVE any in between terminology. You are either one or the other. Moral ... Immoral Saved ... Lost Holy ... Evil God ... Devil Karmic debt ... Debt free Spiritually in the dark ... Enlightened
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@kalburgy2114 I don't believe Jesus was anything other than myth. But if you believe is real ... which religion do you believe he would support as being his one and only truth ... Judaism ... Catholicism ... or Protestantism? At 70 years of age, I became an Atheist. I'm 84 now. Thankfully … now that hundreds of members of clergy are leaving religion behind ... there is hope for everyone. From the book ... Apostle to Apostate: The Story of the Clergy Project … authors … Catherine Dunphy, Richard Dawkins When you are reared to think of your faith and its leaders as infallible, dissent can be an unsettling thing. This is particularly true for clergy, who have devoted their lives to the subject of faith. I therefore especially hope that this story reaches those clergy who have yet to articulate their doubts. As they struggle through this process, I am thankful that they can look to the Clergy Project as an example of community and humanism as an example of good. As former clergy who have left churches of every denomination, synagogues, mosques, convents, monasteries, and theological institutions, we stand as examples of the reasonableness of doubt and its thoughtful conclusions. I cannot help but think that we offer a compelling voice for why science and secularism do a better job than religion and superstition of answering the so-called ultimate questions.
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@studio28music97 Your words were "I didn't mention others. We should strive to fight against evil wherever we may encounter it. Within or outside of ourselves." And my suggestion to you is ... that you should never believe you see EVIL in others ... OR ... in yourself ... because that type of thinking drove many people to commit murder and suicide. If you think of yourself as being in the same boat as others because of having problems ... that removes the religious word EVIL out of your thoughts. The word EVIL was created by ancient men that were convinced that an EVIL DEVIL was REAL and was trying to LEAD THEM and others INTO TEMPTATION! Religion never was ... and is NOT ... good. Thankfully … now that hundreds of members of clergy are leaving religion behind ... there is hope for everyone. From the book ... Apostle to Apostate: The Story of the Clergy Project … authors … Catherine Dunphy, Richard Dawkins When you are reared to think of your faith and its leaders as infallible, dissent can be an unsettling thing. This is particularly true for clergy, who have devoted their lives to the subject of faith. I therefore especially hope that this story reaches those clergy who have yet to articulate their doubts. As they struggle through this process, I am thankful that they can look to the Clergy Project as an example of community and humanism as an example of good. As former clergy who have left churches of every denomination, synagogues, mosques, convents, monasteries, and theological institutions, we stand as examples of the reasonableness of doubt and its thoughtful conclusions. I cannot help but think that we offer a compelling voice for why science and secularism do a better job than religion and superstition of answering the so-called ultimate questions.
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@kalburgy2114 Within twisted theology ... if Jesus believed that he was not good ... why trust him ... or worship him? The double-talk of religion, drove many humans to insanity and to suicide. Thankfully … now that hundreds of members of clergy are leaving religion behind ... there is hope for everyone. From the book ... Apostle to Apostate: The Story of the Clergy Project … authors … Catherine Dunphy, Richard Dawkins When you are reared to think of your faith and its leaders as infallible, dissent can be an unsettling thing. This is particularly true for clergy, who have devoted their lives to the subject of faith. I therefore especially hope that this story reaches those clergy who have yet to articulate their doubts. As they struggle through this process, I am thankful that they can look to the Clergy Project as an example of community and humanism as an example of good. As former clergy who have left churches of every denomination, synagogues, mosques, convents, monasteries, and theological institutions, we stand as examples of the reasonableness of doubt and its thoughtful conclusions. I cannot help but think that we offer a compelling voice for why science and secularism do a better job than religion and superstition of answering the so-called ultimate questions.
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@kalburgy2114 From the book … The Atheist’s Bible: An Illustrious Collection of Irreverent Thoughts … author Joan Konner From the point of view of a tapeworm, man was created by God to serve the appetite of the tapeworm. —EDWARD ABBEY
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@scout2469 For theologians to teach devotees that prayers will be “answered” … leads to great disappointments. And why would the devotees in the following story not WANT the soul of the child to go to heaven … if they believe that heaven is a desired place TO go? From the book … Does This Mean You'll See Me Naked?: Field Notes from a Funeral Director ... author Robert Webster Never have I seen the holidays more prominent than in the case of a minister's seven-year-old daughter. She was afflicted with erythroblastosis and finally succumbed, outliving her doctor's predictions by three years. She died in late November. This charismatic minister and several of his flock waited for me to arrive at the hospital to take his child to the funeral home. I placed her little body in the vehicle, and the entire group returned to their cars to follow me. The pastor-led mourners even accompanied me into the preparation room and assisted me in placing the girl on the table. My waiting employer and I soon learned that the assembled congregation planned to keep vigil while we embalmed the body. As soon as the doors closed, they began chanting, wailing, and saying desperate heart-felt prayers--and they continued for hours. I wept as I worked, hearing this heartbroken clergy, his wife, and his friends pleading with God to please bring their little girl back to life. Of course, it was not to be, and even I felt a little cheated on their behalf that God did not answer prayers so genuinely offered.
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Thanks for honoring my freedom of speech. I wonder ... when Jordan preaches from his Catholic or Protestant bible ... if he considers his self as being a theologian? It should be plain why theologians kept on preaching “KEEP THY FAITH,” rather than admitting that they didn’t have answers to why life exists. To this day … devotees are terrified of the “ALL-POWERFUL CREATOR’S” rejection … because they are certain that if they do not “KEEP THY FAITH” … their souls will SUFFER for ETERNITY. If a theologian were ever to admit that he didn’t have any answers … he … (and in this modern era … she) … would be immediately unemployed. Atheist ... "Do you know for certain that a god exists? Theologian ... "YES I DO? Atheist ... Do you know what the god knows? Theologian ... "NO!. I do NOT! What God knows is beyond all human ability TO know." Atheist ... "Then why are you pretending that you do know?"
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@joelandsharonoas7315 Which group of people do YOU believe are "the great thinkers?" Would it be those in your personal religion?
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@joelandsharonoas7315 I became tired of theologians of all religions pulling the wool over their follower's eyes, and so I decided to do something about it by exposing the lies. Atheist ... "Do you know for certain that a god exists? Theologian ... "YES I DO? Atheist ... Do you know what the god knows? Theologian ... "NO!. I do NOT! What God knows is beyond all human ability TO know." Atheist ... "Then why are you pretending that you do know?" ************************ Thankfully … now that hundreds of members of clergy are leaving religion behind ... there is hope for everyone. From the book ... Apostle to Apostate: The Story of the Clergy Project … authors … Catherine Dunphy, Richard Dawkins When you are reared to think of your faith and its leaders as infallible, dissent can be an unsettling thing. This is particularly true for clergy, who have devoted their lives to the subject of faith. I therefore especially hope that this story reaches those clergy who have yet to articulate their doubts. As they struggle through this process, I am thankful that they can look to the Clergy Project as an example of community and humanism as an example of good. As former clergy who have left churches of every denomination, synagogues, mosques, convents, monasteries, and theological institutions, we stand as examples of the reasonableness of doubt and its thoughtful conclusions. I cannot help but think that we offer a compelling voice for why science and secularism do a better job than religion and superstition of answering the so-called ultimate questions.
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@joelandsharonoas7315 The way I perceive it ... if a god exists that created souls it knew ahead of time it was going to reject to eternal suffering ... it's a horrible monster and deserving of ONLY scorn ... and most certainly NOT worthy of worship ... or respect. Of course ... being an Atheist ... I don't believe that such a monster exists. I do believe that it's as probable that an afterlife exists for humans ... as it does for mosquitoes, or bats or elephants ... or any other form of life ... which is ... not at all. I believe that if I try to treat others with as much kindness as each situation allows, I can't do better than my best and my attitude is "Let the chips fall where they may." I never could believe that story about salvation for some chosen few ... while most souls ever created were going to be doomed to eternal suffering. THAT ridiculous story is why members of clergy are leaving religion behind as being "unbelievable."
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@joelandsharonoas7315 I will ask you this question and hope for an honest response. Which religion do you believe Jesus would have preached ... Judaism ... Catholicism ... or Protestantism? And by the way ...when you believe that your soul is saved and other souls are not saved ... that is NOT humbling your self. That is being very arrogant.
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@joelandsharonoas7315 Those are all fictitious stories, myths, legends, fables and fairy tales. People in religions just pick the ones that fit best for their personal choices From the book … The World’s Sixteen Crucified Saviors … Christianity before Christ, by Kersey Graves … first published in 1875. Pagan Miracles And we have the same kind of evidence that the Hindoo Messiah, Chrishna, of India, restored two boys to life who had been killed by the bites of serpents, as that Jesus Christ resurrected Lazarus and the widow’s son of Nain; and as much proof that Bacchus turned water into wine, as that Jesus performed this act six hundred years after.
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@joelandsharonoas7315 Contradictions in the theology ... The first Gnostic Christians preached that Jesus was born PERFECT to a family of religious Jews. That would mean that if he later in life Jesus decided to preach Catholicism ... he would have become IMperfect.
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@joelandsharonoas7315 Thankfully … now that hundreds of members of clergy of various religious “persuasions” are leaving religion behind ... there is hope for everyone. From the book ... Apostle to Apostate: The Story of the Clergy Project … authors … Catherine Dunphy, Richard Dawkins When you are reared to think of your faith and its leaders as infallible, dissent can be an unsettling thing. This is particularly true for clergy, who have devoted their lives to the subject of faith. I therefore especially hope that this story reaches those clergy who have yet to articulate their doubts. As they struggle through this process, I am thankful that they can look to the Clergy Project as an example of community and humanism as an example of good. As former clergy who have left churches of every denomination, synagogues, mosques, convents, monasteries, and theological institutions, we stand as examples of the reasonableness of doubt and its thoughtful conclusions. I cannot help but think that we offer a compelling voice for why science and secularism do a better job than religion and superstition of answering the so-called ultimate questions.
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@joelandsharonoas7315 The first Christians preached that Jesus was born PERFECT to a family of Jews that were faithful to Judaism. If later in life Jesus chose to preach Christian doctrine ... which is very offensive to Judaism ... that would mean that Jesus had become IMperfect. You will only spot the lies, as I did, if and/or when you are ready. Religion is ALL nothing but myths. We are taught to trust our own myths while belittling other peoples myths. Religion divides people into right-fighters. It does NOT unite. And what does not unite ... can't be truth.
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@joelandsharonoas7315 If as the scientist Stephen Hawking believed before he died, that the universe always existed ... that does away completely with the theory that the universe was created. If his theory was correct ... then there wasn't any creator ... or plan ... and that would mean that suffering of all forms of life always was ... and is ... natural. It would also mean that energy and consciousness in one form or another always existed. And concerning that system of belief that the universe always existed ... Stephen was not alone. Example: From the book … 2000 Years of Disbelief … author … James A. Haugt … “None of the gods has formed the world, nor has any man; it has always been.”—Empedocles (495—435 B.C.E.), Greek philosopher and statesman (Noyes) … “The universe has been made neither by gods nor by men, but it has been, and is, and will be eternally.”—Heraclitus (Noyes) ... “The nature of the universe has by no means been made through divine power, seeing how great are the flaws that mar it”—Lucretius, ibid.
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@joelandsharonoas7315 Your own doctrine is based on the story that if I am not a Christian ... your god will reject my EVIL soul to a state of eternal suffering. I didn't make up that horrible story. The first Christians did. And if Jesus had existed, he would have said, "STOP insulting me by saying that I preach Christian dogmas. I am a religious JEW, and religious Jews preach ONLY Judaism."
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@joelandsharonoas7315 Maimonides was a Jewish Rabbi who lived in the Middle-ages and because he told the Jews what they wanted to hear … he was extremely popular. And he was right … that if Jesus gave up on preaching Judaism as his one and only truth … which was his birth-right … to in turn preach ANY Christian doctrine … Jesus WOULD have been a heretic and OF COURSE hated by the Jews. Just as the Catholic popes wanted the Protestants to be put to death for heresy … the Jews wanted Jesus to be put to death for heresy against them. I agree with the words of the now-dead Christopher Hitchens … “Religion poisons everything.”
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