Comments by "June VanDerMark" (@junevandermark952) on "Can Scientists and Religious Leaders See Eye to Eye? | Middle Ground" video.

It seems that at least some men of ancient times agreed with Stephen Hawking’s theory that the universe always existed … and never was created. From the book … 2000 Years of Disbelief … author … James A. Haugt … “None of the gods has formed the world, nor has any man; it has always been.”—Empedocles (495—435 B.C.E.), Greek philosopher and statesman (Noyes) … “The universe has been made neither by gods nor by men, but it has been, and is, and will be eternally.”—Heraclitus (Noyes) “The nature of the universe has by no means been made through divine power, seeing how great are the flaws that mar it”—Lucretius, ibid.
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From my perspective, we have two choices. We can either believe that the universe was created by an entity that designed suffering as part of its plan ... or, we can believe (as did Stephen Hawking, before he died) that the universe always existed, and will always exist ... no plan involved. I prefer the second choice.
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@acemxe8472 “I still believe the universe has a beginning in real time, at the big bang. But there’s another kind of time, imaginary time, at right angles to real time, in which the universe has no beginning or end.”—Stephen Hawking Black Holes and Baby Universes.
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@acemxe8472 “I regard the brain as a computer which will stop working when it’s components fail. There is no heaven or afterlife for broken down computers; that is a fairy story for people afraid of the dark.” Stephen Hawking
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@acemxe8472 From the book … Travelling to Infinity: My Life with Stephen ... author Jane Hawking ... The True Story Behind the Theory of Everything. Only a month later we found ourselves again in Rome, where Stephen was to be admitted by the Pope to the Pontifical Academy of Sciences, despite the heresies he was still preaching about the universe having neither a beginning or an end. I watched and listened from the sidelines and my heart sank as I heard it repeated again and again in some form or other. "Professor Hawking, what does your research tell you about the existence of God? Or "Is there room for God in the universe you describe?" or, more directly, "Do you believe in God?" Always the answer was the same. No, Stephen did not believe in God and there was no room for God in his universe.
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Now you've changed "your" story. However, you can't change his story.
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@acemxe8472 Absurd logic is a contradiction. It can't be absurd, and at the same time ... be logic.
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@acemxe8472 When the Catholic priest Georges Lemaître created the Big Bang theory, it followed that the Big Bang theory would be enmeshed with the idea that the universe was created by a god, as Stephen Hawking learned when he visited the pope. ... "In 1985, I attended a conference on cosmology at the Vatican in Rome. The gathering of scientists had an audience with Pope John Paul II. He told us that it was okay to study the workings of the universe, but we should not ask questions about its origin, for that was the work of God." Stephen Hawking
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Would you like me to appeal to your authority, rather than Stephen Hawking's authority, concerning whose system of belief I follow?
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@acemxe8472 Your statement was the contradiction. lol
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@acemxe8472 Do you believe that your soul is destined for greatness, while my soul is doomed to fail?
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