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Comments by "June VanDerMark" (@junevandermark952) on "Richard Dawkins vs Ayaan Hirsi Ali: The God Debate" video.
My most ambitious goal came about after believing for 70 years that the universe was created ... to change my system of belief to the scientific theory that in one form or another, the universe and energy always existed ... no creator ... no plan ... and to believe that suffering of all forms of life ... is natural. If people believe they can't be moral unless they have religion in their lives ... that is a sad statement about the mentality of humans in general. It's as though you are saying ... "I can't be moral unless I fear that a god is going to punish me if I'm not moral." I am almost 85 years of age now ... and I believe that if I treat each situation with as much kindness as it deserves ... I can't DO better than my best ... and "let the chips fall where they may."
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@chadhogan4979 There isn't any "remedy" for suffering on planet earth ... and according to those in religions ... suffering in the hereafter continues for wicked, EVIL souls for eternity. As an Atheist, I believe that suffering ends when the bodies die, as it does for all forms of life when their bodies die. Personally ... world over ... each one of us decides what is and what is not moral ... and it's plain that because we are selfish beings ...we all break our own and other people's concepts of moral codes. As an Atheist I don't have any authority to tell you that you are wrong ... I just have the freedom to debate with you that I believe your system of belief is wrong ... from my personal point of view. I suggest that you try leaving your religious cult to join a different religious cult and see how fast you are shunned by the people who now think you are evil and of the devil. Those in religions are not kind, if you try to leave them and their theology behind. They might even kill you ... while reminding you that you should not have insulted "GOD" by leaving HOLY TRUTH for EVIL LIES. When it pertains to the age-old theories of whether the universe was created or whether it always existed ... that can't be known by scientists or by those in religion. All we have is faith in our own theories ... and I went from investing my faith in the theory that a god created the universe ... to the scientific theory that the universe always existed. We can also put our faith in the theory that the universe started with a BIG BANG ... but no matter which theory we choose ... it's all theory and nothing other THAN theory. Thanks for the chance to converse with you, and I wish you the best no matter which theory you choose to believe.
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@dartskihutch4033 I used to believe that the universe was created ... but now I believe that the universe and electricity always existed ... no creator ... no plan ... and that suffering of all forms of life ... is natural. I don't believe in an afterlife ... but if you do ... that is your right. We can't prove it either way ... so ... as the old saying goes ... "It up in the air."
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@James-872 Thank you. Your support is much appreciated.
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