Comments by "June VanDerMark" (@junevandermark952) on "Unpacked"
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Salvation?
The secret to winning over the emotions of humans, is to tell them what they want to hear. The fact is, that before Judaism, there were many other religions with favorite myths of their own. At one time Jews believed in many gods, until one group of Jews decided that if they created the one-god dogma of monotheism, every person on earth would have to join their religion if they wanted to be "saved." As history proved, that worked against their story that the Jews were God's chosen few, when along came a group of Jews, that didn’t like being controlled by the all-powerful Jewish Rabbis, and thought about how they could leave Judaism … create a theology about a son of the Jewish god, that would materialize on earth to teach the one and only truth, that only through Jesus could anyone be saved ... and that was the start of the Gnostic Christian religion, with Catholicism becoming predominant. And then, the Muslims got in the act, claiming that the one God (Allah, which is the Islamic word for God) favored only Muslims. Then the Protestants got into the act, by claiming that only they were favorites of Jesus.
And now, we have the new age groupies, with their fables of Goddess love. What a mess.
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The Christian religion from the get-go, was based on antisemitism. The story told by the first "Gnostic" Christians, was that the Jews were liars, and that the Gnostic Christians were telling the truth straight from "God."
The secret to winning over the emotions of humans, is to tell them what they want to hear. The fact is, that before Judaism, there were many other religions with favorite salvation myths of their own. At one time Jews believed in many gods, until one group of Jews decided that if they created the one-god dogma of monotheism, every person on earth would have to join their religion if they wanted to be "saved." As history proved, that worked against their story that the Jews were God's chosen few, when along came a group of Jews, that didn’t like being controlled by the all-powerful Jewish Rabbis, and thought about how they could leave Judaism … create a theology about a son of the Jewish god, that would materialize on earth to teach the one and only truth, that only through Jesus could anyone be saved ... and that was the start of the Gnostic Christian religion, with Catholicism becoming predominant. And then, the Muslims got in the act, claiming that the one God (Allah, which is the Islamic word for God) favored only Muslims. Then the Protestants got into the act, by claiming that only they were favorites of Jesus. And now, we have the new age groupies, with their fables of Goddess love.
I suggest that there never was a creator in existence, but rather, the stories were all a result of human imagination gone wild.
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@andreegross According to YOU ... what IS this “Divine God's” moral code?
Please explain in "detail" ... (keeping "in ‘your’ own mind" for your own safety’s sake) … that if a god really does exist and you misquote him by taking his *WORD out of HIS OWN intended context ... you could spend eternity in your OWN afterlife suffering for eternity.
Because of their massive-sized egos ruling over their own common sense … theologians gave off the “impressions” that they knew what the creator of the universe was “talking about” … and therefore were not capable (or unwilling … because of the material PERKS attached to the JOB) … to apply the same logic to their own (personalized) theologies.
Hopefully … YOU are still able and capable of such “reasoning.”
There IS help … but it is NOT in religion.
Hundreds of members of clergy are now adapting to the system of belief that there never was a god judging human “moral” behavior, and that the theologians that in turn taught them … were simply “tooting their own horns.”
I can’t speak as an ex member of clergy … but if I was an ex member of clergy that was leaving, I would be saying to myself “I’ve been the slave of a theologian (doing all the ground-work of listening to the endless complaints of parishioners, and suffering complaints from the hierarchy that I never did enough to please GOD … and I’m SO thankful that there IS a way of escape for me now … OTHER than by suicide ... which was unfortunately the way out for so many other desperate members of clergy.”
From the book ... Apostle to Apostate: The Story of the Clergy Project … authors … Catherine Dunphy, Richard Dawkins
When you are reared to think of your faith and its leaders as infallible, dissent can be an unsettling thing. This is particularly true for clergy, who have devoted their lives to the subject of faith. I therefore especially hope that this story reaches those clergy who have yet to articulate their doubts. As they struggle through this process, I am thankful that they can look to the Clergy Project as an example of community and humanism as an example of good.
As former clergy who have left churches of every denomination, synagogues, mosques, convents, monasteries, and theological institutions, we stand as examples of the reasonableness of doubt and its thoughtful conclusions. I cannot help but think that we offer a compelling voice for why science and secularism do a better job than religion and superstition of answering the so-called ultimate questions.
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The Christian religion from the get-go, was based on antisemitism. The story told by the first "Gnostic" Christians, was that the Jews were liars, and that the Gnostic Christians were telling the truth straight from "God."
The secret to winning over the emotions of humans, is to tell them what they want to hear. The fact is, that before Judaism, there were many other religions with favorite salvation myths of their own. At one time Jews believed in many gods, until one group of Jews decided that if they created the one-god dogma of monotheism, every person on earth would have to join their religion if they wanted to be "saved." As history proved, that worked against their story that the Jews were God's chosen few, when along came a group of Jews, that didn’t like being controlled by the all-powerful Jewish Rabbis, and thought about how they could leave Judaism … create a theology about a son of the Jewish god, that would materialize on earth to teach the one and only truth, that only through Jesus could anyone be saved ... and that was the start of the Gnostic Christian religion, with Catholicism becoming predominant. And then, the Muslims got in the act, claiming that the one God (Allah, which is the Islamic word for God) favored only Muslims. Then the Protestants got into the act, by claiming that only they were favorites of Jesus. And now, we have the new age groupies, with their fables of Goddess love.
I suggest that there never was a creator in existence, but rather, the stories were all a result of human imagination gone wild.
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