Comments by "June VanDerMark" (@junevandermark952) on "Where Does God Fit in an Infinite Universe Brian Cox and Joe Rogan" video.

  1. I left my religious indoctrination at 70 years of age, because I knew that if a god existed, (because of suffering) I could no longer pretend to worship such a monster, and that if I had the power to create ... suffering would not exist at all. Image a god, with a conscience, planning on creating the following. The Grapple Tree (Harpagophytum procumbens) of South Africa produces a fearsome fruit called the “Devil’s Claw” which has been known to kill a lion. The fruit is covered in fierce hooks, which latch on to passing animals. In trying to shake the fruit off, the animal disperses the seeds but at the same time, the hooks sink deeper into the creature’s flesh. If the animal touches the fruit with its mouth, the fruit will attach itself to the animal’s jaw, inflicting great pain and preventing it from eating. Antelopes are usually the victims. From my perspective, we have two choices. We can either believe that the universe was created by an entity that designed suffering as part of its plan ... or, we can believe (as did Stephen Hawking, before he died) that the universe always existed, and will always exist ... no plan involved. I prefer the second choice.
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