Comments by "S Andersson" (@sandersson2813) on "Constitutional crisis: MPs consider Church of England intervention on same-sex marriage teaching" video.

  1. Why do you care about gay marriage? You're not marrying them, so why do you care? Doesn't affect you in ANY way.
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  2.  @aclark903  Why do you care if gay people want to marry? Marriage didn't begin with Christianity or even Judaism so it has no claim who can and can't get married. If you don't like gay marriage, don't marry a gay person. I dont get why religious nuts are so obsessed with sex. Also, why do you care what the bible says about gay people? You pick and choose what you follow from that shit book. That book tells you that a rape victim HAS to marry her rapist. You don't agree with that, or that a child who doesn't honour their parents should be stoned to death so why do you reject that, but accept what it says a out gay marriage? Beaten your slave lately? Your Bible allows it.
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  3. You can get married. There's nothing stopping you.
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  4. Who cares what the Bible says? You don't follow the bible, so why care what it says about being gay?
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  5. The church is a fairy tale book club
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  6.  @billveek9518  No it isn't. It's simply asking for EQUALITY. If the church rightly abandone the bible granting permission. For slavery, making a rape victim marry her rapist, stoning unruly children, gay people and adulterers to death, why is it holding on to this? No is forcing you to marry a gay person, or even attend a gay wedding.
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  7.  @billveek9518  Your "scriptures" say that a rape victim HAS TO marry her rapist. Do you believe in that? Maybe you believe in genocide , condoned ny your scriptures, or human sacrifice? Maybe you approve of unruly children being stoned to death? That's in your scriptures too?
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  8.  @billveek9518  Actually in the new testament it says that Jesus has not come to change the old law, but to fulfill it so that means the old laws, all 613 of them are still valid. If you don't care about the old testament, why is it in your Bible? You approve of the ten commandments don't you? That's old testament. What context is there for making a rape victim marry her rapist, or for allowing a slave owner to beat their slaves? What context is there for human sacrifice? Stop making excuses for this sham of a book "Slaves obey your masters" is new testament. The human sacrifice of Jesus is new testament. Couldn't your god think of a better way to make up for his own mistakes than sacrificing himself to himself? What does it even resolve? If I kill your wife, and you offer to carry out my sentences which is what you are saying Jesus is doing for us, how does that absolve me of anything? Substitutionary atonement is immoral.
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  9.  @billveek9518  I have read it, which is why I know it's an historically inaccurate, scientifically illiterate, immoral, out of date piece of shit. Still waiting on a context in which a rape victim should marry her rapist. How did Jesus "fulfil" the old law? There's no contemporary evidence he even existed so you haven't got proof of him actually doing a bloody thing. At best there was a man called Jesus, but there is ZERO EVIDENCE of divinity, miracles or resurrection. You believe something indistinguishable from a fairy story and as such that demonstrates to me that you don't care if your beliefs are true. If you did, faith would be WORTHLESS.
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  10.  @billveek9518  My immoral life? Ha ha ha. I'm more moral that the god of your Bible. Give me the best piece of evidence your god exists and that your religion is true. Our laws are NOT based on the Bible don't beridiculous.
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  11.  @billveek9518  That isn't evidence of a god, that is evidence of me existing. It also doesn't explain ANY God or that your fairy tale is true. I don't know how or why the universe came about, I'm not going to pretend I know it was a god like you have. How did you exclude every other possibility? For example how did you exclude universe creating pixies? Is that any less likely than a Christian god? I asked for the BEST piece of evidence that a god exists and that YOUR religion is true and you've offered NOTHING, which is exactly what I expected.
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  12.  @billveek9518  I didn't say I knew. I said you have no evidence which supports a belief in a god, and no evidence which supports your particular religion. Tell you what, considering the bible says that WHATEVER you pray for in god's name will be granted, why don't YOU pray for YOUR god to reveal himself to me by the end of the day? Then, when it doesn't show I will know that it doesn't exist or doesn't care. Let me ask you this, does your god want me to know it exists? Presumably yes right? Therefore it would know EXACTLY what it would take to convince me. So why doesn't it?
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  13.  @billveek9518  Well that's a day done and your god is still the hide and seek world champion.
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  14.  @billveek9518  Ha ha ha. Just DEMONSTRATE it exists. Why can't you do that? Your claims that your god exists are just as empty and unjustified as those from a Jew, Muslim, Sikh, Hindu etc. Believing as you do and in the manner you do clearly shows you don't care if your beliefs are true. It is in effect being gullible. It is indistinguishable from a fairy tale.
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  15.  @billveek9518  Of course I can't answer because I don't know and YOU don't know either. How did you determine a god did it? And what makes you think it was a Christian god? How did you exclude all other possibilities of how it all began?
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  16.  @billveek9518  Ha ha ha ha. That's the sort of answer I'd expect from a 5 year old
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  17.  @ncrob391  You need to read your Bible it says a man who has "seized". It also says woman who does not call out whilst being raped is to be stoned to death. What if a man is threatening her with death if she screams ? Sorry I know your Bible better than you. There is also the "capture of all the mideanites who are virgin's" What do you think they'll do with them?
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  18. You don't follow the bible, so why bother with Christianity at all?
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  19.  @berniefynn6623  God didn't make a single thing as far as we know. There is no evidence a god exists, far less that tje Bible is true or worth following, especially given that we know it's mostly untrue and immoral.
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  20.  @debbiesmith8248  I didn't say god didn't exist, but there's no evidence to believe one does, far less one related to any religion. There is no evidence of intelligent design whatsoever. Couldn't you design a human better than us? The stories of flood in the world DON'T correlate as a flood described in the bible. For example just because a flood story exists in France for example, didn't mean it happened in Argentina at the same time. There is NO EVIDENCE of any flood in human history as described by the bible, plus there wouldn't be anyone left to tell the story of it actually happened would there given that according to your lying bible the only people who survived was Noah and his crew. They have "found" the Ark about 50 times and each time it's been found out to be a HOAX.
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  21.  @debbiesmith8248  You've misunderstood what I have said. There is NO EVIDENCE a god exists, just like there is no evidence for loads of things, therefore the logical position is to withhold your belief UNTIL evidence for a god is presented. If you believe something without evidence it tells me you are gullible and don't care if your beliefs are true. As for design, I asked if you could not design a better human being than we are. For example, I would design a human being where the reproductive organs weren't also waste organs, or that a breathing pipe wasn't also a food pipe. On the flood story, the whole point of the story was that EVERYONE bar Noah and his ark DIED, hence there would be no stories in ANY countries around the world. EXCEPT where Noah is from. If there was a global flood, there would be EVIDENCE, there isn't ANY.
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  22.  @debbiesmith8248  That isn't a fact, it's a story and there is no evidence it occurred at all. If there was a flood as described in the bible the evidence would be EVERYWHERE, but there is NOTHING. Do you believe in the ten commandments? Think carefully before you answer. Adam and Eve weren't real and didn't exist, like the flood ITS A STORY
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  23.  @debbiesmith8248  Give me the BEST piece of evidence. If you believe the ten commandments, do you believe the punishments for breaking them should be applied? Do you think what the Bible promotes is moral?
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  24.  @debbiesmith8248  No, there is no evidence the Bible is true. I asked you to give me the BEST piece of evidence. There are true things in the bible, such as place names, but there are real places in Harry Potter too, doesn't make claims of floods, Adam and Eve, exodus or Jesus to be true stories. Do you reise the Bible says that the punishment for breaking the ten commandments is death mostly. Do you agree a child should be stoned to death for not obeying its parents? Perhaps you think a rape victim should be forced to marry her rapist? Or maybe that we should be permitted to own slaves? How about you being worth less as a woman? I'm more moral than your god. I've never commanded genocide, I've never tortured anyone, I've never killed anyone, I haven't given rules for slavery etc.
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  25.  @debbiesmith8248  You do realise that Ken Ham is one of the biggest laughingstocks in Christianity and that Answers in Genesis is routinely discredited for coming up with absurd apologetics which are easily debunked? Is this really the BEST you can do?
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  26.  @debbiesmith8248  No, a "spiritual death" is NOT what it mentions. Your Bible directly states that you are PUT to death for not honouring your parents or for working on the sabbath, it doesn't mention a spiritual death at all it states that you are to be PUT to death. Would you like me to give you the verses or would you rather I saved you the embarrassment? I'm sorry that I know your Bible BETTER than you do. You should be ashamed of yourself for believing this nonsense without even knowing what your religion commands.
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  27.  @debbiesmith8248  You keep saying there's tons of evidence for a god, specifically your god, yet you run away and divert when I ask for the BEST piece of evidence. Why? Is it because you KNOW that you don't have evidence? I believe things which are supported by evidence, why won't you just give me your BEST piece of evidence? Why is that so hard? As for Noah, well there's no evidence he even existed and as I've said before there is NO EVIDENCE of any flood as described in the bible at ANY time during human existence. We know Adam and Eve didn't exist, so why believe Noah did?
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  28.  @davidphillips3708  Your Christianity is certainly a hypnosis. I realise you meant to say hypothesis, but it was a funny Freudian slip which better fits Christianity as an indoctrination.
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  29. And religion needs to keep its nose out of everything.
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  30.  @jonathandnicholson  Killing isn't illegal due to religions.
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  31.  @run2cat4run  You can be as evil as Hitler, Stalin or Mother Theresa (a vile human being) and still go to heaven.🤣
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  32.  @AvACyberSecurity  Religion SHOULDN'T attempt to influence society. If you want to be in a fairy tale book club and believe the demonstrable crap and immorality in the bible, that is fine, bit you don't get special treatment for it and you don't get to shoehorn it into society. Your beliefs like all religious beliefs are indefensible and unjustifiable, so keep them to yourself and your little club where they belong.
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  33.  @AvACyberSecurity  The church doesn't have a job in society The church exists ONLY for itself, to keep the gullible, gullible, to make people fear death in irder to make them cling onto a series of preposterous and immoral beliefs like an afterlife or the ridiculous story of Jesus. If you want to believe the shit in the bible, that is fine, but you have no right to try and force your beliefs on wider society. It is indistinguishable from a fairy tale. There is NOTHING good done by religion that can't be done without it, so it clearly isnt necessary.
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  34.  @AvACyberSecurity  I don't hate your religion, I'm stating that you can believe what you want, but fairy tales have no place when it comes to influencing policy, taxation, education or laws. I know plenty about the bible, more than most Christians who don't know it at all. Given that we know so much of the Bible is simply untrue, and it teaches immoral things why bother with taking anything from it, like i said, there's nothing good done by religion that can't be done without it, so why bother?
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  35.  @AvACyberSecurity  The point is if we allow your fairy tale to have influence on society, we have to allow ALL fairy tales to have influence on society. You follow a book which condones slavery, genocide, incest, subjugation of women, human sacrificing, stoning people to death, so who cares what your religion thinks? It has no place in society.
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  36. You don't obey the bible. You reject 90% of the bible but want to follow it on this one point?
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  37. Christianity is indistinguishable from a fairy tale, like all religions.
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  38.  @peterjermey7235  There's is no such thing as sin. It's just a tool religions use to keep you in their cult.
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  39.  @aclark903  Ah yea, the Nile, another failed prophecy from the bullshit Bible. Never has dried up has it?
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  40.  @aclark903  So what. My point was the bible is bullshit and you know it is which is why you reject so much of it.
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  41.  @aclark903  Ha ha. You're not serious. Do you want to be beaten or owned as a slave? No Your Bible also condones genocide human sacrifice, incest, slavery etc.
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  42.  @aclark903  You're talking nonsense man. You know your Bible is immoral and you know you are inconsistent in your claims about the bible. If you think gay marriage is wrong because the bible is against gay people then due to what the bible says you should be in favour of slavery, genocide, subjugation of women, not eating shellfish, human sacrifice, murdering adulterers and those who work on the Sabbath, incest etc . You said the bible is dead laws, but you REJECT all these things because you know they are wrong and immoral. Why then, do you know those are wrong but care what the bible says about gay people?
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  43.  @aclark903  Why would you be in favour of it? Funny you pick the least controversial one. Your book condones incest. Do you?
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  44.  @aclark903  You have to ask why it's wrong? Isn't it obvious? From a genetic point of view it is wrong and your moronic god created a situation where it was the only option THREE times despite there being very simple solutions. Do you believe a rape victim should be FORCED to marry her rapist? Your Bible does. How about Human Sacrifice, your Bible approves of that.
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  45.  @aclark903  Why is god a moron? First of all you haven't proven there is a god, secondly you haven't proven i was created, thirdly you haven't proven your religion to be true and fourthly couldn't you design a better human being than us? Wouldnt a god with a brain actually just create a large and genetically diverse population rather than have the children of Adam and Eve (eve made from Adam, so even less genetically diverse) fuck each other? It's retarded.
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  46.  @aclark903  I didn't say it wasn't. According to your immoral Bible your god was fine with the children of Adam and Eve to procreate with one another, same as the 8 post flood survivors. Why use such a small gene pool if it knew we would find it out to be problematic? Scared to answer if you think a rape victim should be forced to marry her rapist?
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  47.  @aclark903  Ha ha ha. I'll take that as acknowledgement you can't defend it. There is no possible context in which it is moral to own another human being as property and to beat them as hard as you like. It is NEVER moral to allow human sacrifice, it is NEVER moral to force a rape victim to marry her rapist. You KNOW this, you're just too much of a coward to admit your Bible is clearly NOTHING to do with any god and demonstrably was written by men.
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  48. Why are the church so bothered about this part of the bible, when they reject so much more of it? Why just not accept the bible is also wrong about this as it is about so many other things. How can Christians pick and choose what they believe in it?
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  49.  @catherinedart4777  Catherine, do you realise your Bible tells you that an unruly child should be stoned to death? That you should be killed if you work on the Sabbath? That a rape victim should be forced to marry her rapist, that women are worth less than men, that incest is ok, that human sacrifice is fine, that genocide is commanded and that you may keep slaves, and you worry about whether gay people should get married in a building which approves of all those repulsive things in your Bible? That is hilarious.
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  50. Do you realise how immoral tje Bible is in the first place?
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  51.  @catrinholmes7026  It's a fairy story.
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  52.  @catrinholmes7026  I don't give a shit what someone CLAIMS he said. There is ZERO EVIDENCE a god exists.
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  53.  @catrinholmes7026  Jesus also said "slaves obey your masters", so do you approve of slavery?
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