Comments by "S Andersson" (@sandersson2813) on "heretics. clips"
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@Reprobus3
The standard upon which you base anything has NOTHING to do with whether or not a god exists. Morality demonstrably doesn't come from a god.
So far you've presented no evidence a god exists, and nothing at all that would even suggest that it is possible let alone likely.
I have answered all your questions. We do not, never have and never will require a god to arrive at a moral outcome.
For example, I can name you multiple repulsive things in the bible that you couldn't possibly find to be moral, yet the bible condones, commands or approves of them. Is the bible not the word of your god?
You believe something indistinguishable from a fairy tale, and just as you can't convince anyone a fairy tale is true, you can't do that with your infantile belief in a god either.
Does a god exists? Perhaps, just like Santa Claus might exist, but until we are presented with evidence, how could you possibly hold a belief in one, even a deistic one?
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@charlesd4572 You're just talking utter crap.
You're attempting to defend ridiculous beliefs on the basis that in life we have naturally lower thresholds for what we accept to likely true.
If you tell me you have a dog, my threshold for believing that claim is low because dog ownership is common, dogs exist, I can see evidence of shit in your garden or hair on your shirt, however if you tell me that you have a pink dog which only appears when you are alone I require a higher standard of evidence for that because we have no evidence that invisible pink dogs exist.
You're trying to say that we all hold beliefs without the need for any evidence. That's just untrue.
Therefore I stand by my claim that believing things without evidence is stupid. If you tell me you have £100 in your wallet, it might be likely, but until you show it to me, I won't believe you. That is a rational position. If you tell me you have 1bn in the back of your car, the two require different levels of evidence in order to hold a belief.
Believing a god exists is absolutely preposterous in regards to the realistic expectation, based on prior evidence that buses exist, run on a timetable, stop at stops and we have experience of taking them. I do not have faith in the bus coming .
Beliefs are not equal.
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@charlesd4572 I didn't claim I was above it, I asked you to name something I would buy based upon the commercials spurious claim. Can you give an example? Thought not.
Human rights are subjective and based on society, it's why even US and UK have different human rights and different morals. These don't come from, and are not contingent on any religion or any god, especially as we now find the bible to be a deeply immoral book full of reprehensible and disgusting commands. If morals came from a god or a book, all countries would follow the same moral teachings over time.
Can you name any moral guidance that originated in religion? No, you can't, so not only can you not prove a god exists, can't give a good reason for believing in one, you actually can't justify what makes a religion worthwhile in the first place when there's nothing good done by religion, that can't be done without it.
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@b_uppy It doesn't stand up to reasoning whatsoever.
If a Jew, Mum, Hindu, Mormon etc made the same claims as you, you would rightly flat out reject them as just make believe nonsense.
You're claiming you know there's a bigger picture to this yet you can't possibly know about it because its the same as a fairy tale. I can't begin to explain how naive and stupid that is. You're starting from a point of not being able to separate your god from a fairy tale, so anything you subsequently claim about that god is in the realm of fairy tale, so how can you possibly claim any sort of credibility?
I get why you want to believe, bit it doesn't make it true, or even likely to be true. It is fantasy
I don't have to prove your claim isn't true, the burden of proof is on you and given that you didn't have to disprove every other god or religion, why do I have to disprove yours? I've simply said there is no evidence to support it, and you haven't presented any.
Could your god exist? Yes, is there any evidence which leads to that being a reasonable conclusion? Not in the slightest.
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