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@fp5495 American cars, Chrysler, Jeep, Dodge, owned by Italy.
Most of Ford range, deisgned in Europe, head of Ford design, Moray Calum, a Scotsman. Head of GMC design, a British woman.
Moving on...
It must embarrass you that China and India can do a better job of companies that USA used to own like Land Rover, Jaguar and Volvo when Ford had them . You were so shit at running them you sold them for a loss and theyre ten times better now.
You killed Saab and you nearly killed Aston Martin.
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@pistonburner6448 Ha ha ha. You just madw my point for me.
Rolls Royce, Bentley, Aston and Range Rover are all designed, engineered and built in the UK. EXACTLY the same as Chrysler, Jeep and Dodge are in USA, despite Italy owning them.
So in what waybare they different?
Is Budweiser not an American lager anymore because Belgium own them 100%?
Jeep, Chrysler and Dodge are OWNED by Stellantis, a mwrger of Fiat and PSA, Fiat previously BOUGHT Chrysler, JEEP and Dodge.
By the way Buick and Ford models are mostly derivatives of European models in terms of design and engineering, so are they not American?
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@victorstewart395 I think they are decent cars, but to suggest they are stillb miles ahead and the default choice is just a lie.
If anything other makers are usurping Tesla.
I'm not against Tesla per se, I'm against their lack of effort in design and build quality. There are plenty other good options out there.
You could have Polestar 2, Kia EV6, Genesis GV60, Hyundai Ioniq 5, Porsche Taycan, Jag Ipace, Audi Etron, BMW Ix3, Volvo C30, BMW i4, VW Id5 GTX, Skoda Enyaq, Mustang Mach E, Merc EQ, Fisker Ocean etc.
All more interesting than Tesla and plenty others in pipeline.
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@helpredisembiring2241
I've driven plenty. Poor design, poor materials, laughable interiors, outdated, uneconomical, terrible gearboxes etc i drove a Dodge Challenger and the bonnet rippled at 70mph.
Im not saying all European cars are brilliant, obviously they arent, but there's reasons as to why US cars arent sold worldwide, and European ones are. Burger King is owned by a Canadian HQ'd company by the way, Budweiser is owned by the Belgians, but I would say they are still American, but by your standards, you wouldn't.
Im not sure you speak English based on your writing.
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@pistonburner6448 Jesus, We were talking about luxury cars, of which Range Rover and Aston fit into that bracket.
I didnt claim or even imply that Aston or Range Rover were owned by the Germans.
You were the one who stated that Britain dodnt have any luxury cars. Who owns the company doesnt change the nationality of the car, as per example, Belgian ownership doesnt make that repulsive excuse for a beer, Budweiser a Belgian Beer. Its still an American beer, just like Rolls Royce or Bentley are still British cars.
Volvo haven't become Chinese simply because Geely own them.
ALL Bentley cars are made in CREWE, EVERY Aston IS made in UK, EVERY Rolls Royce is made at Goodwood and Range Rover all over the world (as many American cars are)
As for there being American luxury cars,ike what exactly? Luxury in Amwrica simply means big. Cadillac for example are second rate, as are Lincoln and are so bad that in most of the world you cant even buy them
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@aramzyf You're being narrow minded and missing the point.
Look at it from the point of view of someone who actually has the money to buy one.
They know that everyone as rich as they are could buy any car they want, could be better, could be faster, could be better looking, could have a more prestigious name, the difference is that they'll have something different, interesting and unusual.
If you look at money from the mentality of a Premiership footballer, you'll always go route one and pick the obvious choice of an Aston, Porsche, Mercedes or whatever, and it's boring to buy what all these predictable people would pick.
This is more of a thinking man's choice, someone with a bit more imagination, someone who wants to stand out a bit more, but still remain tasteful.
Well done Volvo.
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@MrEMIT777 Exactly, I'm not saying it would be my choice, but I can see why someone would go for it.
Whatever you buy, there's always a "better" alternative as it were.
Personally I'd rather drive something that Raheem Sterling or Jamie Vardy didn't and wouldn't even look at, so it would certainly be something I looked at rather than the somewhat tired and predictable option of an Aston, Porsche or Lambo.
Understated is much more desirable than something which will have people think you're just a wanker with too much money and no imagination or taste.
When it comes to a certain point in performance, its pretty irrelevant as you are constrained by the laws of the road and the presence of other road users, same goes for handling.
If I could afford a Polestar, I could afford to have another half dozen cars in my garage too, so it wouldn't necessarily have to be faster, better handling etc because I could well have that catered for by all the other cars I could afford.
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@victorstewart395 I did get your point about startups. I wasn't referring to top end cars like Lucid or Rimac, there are plenty others like Fisker, Alpha and a bundle of Chinese ones, besides Tesla has been around since about 2007 and is supported by more money than any car maker like Jaguar, Land Rover, Volvo, BMW etc, they simply can't use that as an excuse.
The Tesla S is yet another dreary design, blatantly derivative of the 2008 Jaguar XF.
Tesla delays are also due to chip shortages and issues with Chinese supply of other components. They have loads of factories so not being able to make them quick enough isn't an excuse either.
People have always bought boring cars to look at, look at the entire US or Asian production. No style and no soul. It's not a reason to keep selling shit, outdated designs is it?
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@victorstewart395 I'm not even really disagreeing, but you are making claims about Tesla that you're having to back out of.
My beef about Tesla is that if I spend £52,000 on a car I don't want it to look like it's 20k and put together badly.
Tesla is like a lot of things, it's made for the person with zero emotion or interest in cars, but that's mass market appeal isn't it?
Just like people buy a 911 as a sportscar, a Range Rover as an SUV, or a Ford F150 as a pickup, it's the boring choice for the unimaginative
Nothing wrong with Tesla, I just want to spend my money on something that excites me in ALL ways, and sitting in it, looking at it, doesn't match it's one good point, it's speed.
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@jorgeluiscapiello414 Yes, in exactly the same way.
Propulsion is only a small part of it. Fuel injection, 16 valve engines, catalytic converters, super chargers, turbo chargers, seatbelts, car safety, airbags, unleaded fuel, cruise control, sat nav etc have all had massive influences on .
Besides, Electric cars don't really solve a problem.
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