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Comments by "S Andersson" (@sandersson2813) on ""There's No Bodies To Recover, The Implosion Is So Rapid" | Former US Navy Captain on Titanic Sub" video.
@jarnec9428 Knowledge of the surface of the sea doesn't give any special insight into life under the sea and how harsh the environment is. We learn about temperature, pressure, currents etc from other means.
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@TheBanatter Sailing doesn't give you knowledge of deep sea diving
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@TheBanatter Of course, but if I'm below the ocean at 5000psi I need the advice of a submariner, not a sailor. Being a sailor or growing up on a boat doesn't give you any expert knowledge on dealing with this story. Saying "I grew up on a boat so knew they were dead " makes no sense. Growing up on a boat tells you the square root of fuck all about submersibles or the sub sea environment.
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@TheBanatter Jesus, growing up on a boat doesn't mean you know any more about the subsurface than anyone else. It gives you knowledge of the surface and sailing. At best being a sailor means you MIGHT have a better understanding about the size of the ocean and the unlikeliness of finding the boat. It tells you fuck all about sub sea hazards and dangers of deep sea submersibles.
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@TheBanatter No it doesn't, because you have NO IDEA what level of knowledge those people on land have. Just because you sail or grew up on a boat, doesn't mean you know a fucking thing about the ocean floor, sub sea communication, pressure, submersibles or anything else connected to this story.
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@TheBanatter So fucking what? It's all Ifs and buts. If I say I have a kitchen and you don't, it doesn't mean I know more about you than cooking. I'll give you another example. I work sub sea survey and geology for oil companies, but I don't sail. Who do you think knows more about the subsea environment? Me who works in that field daily, or someone who grew up on a boat? Just growing up on a boat doesn't mean a fucking thing. It's like saying "my dad was a mechanic, so I know more about cars than you"
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@TheBanatter I don't need to go to space, the jungle, the desert, the arctic to know how dangerous they are as environments or how serious they are to human life, but it doesn't mean there haven't been miraculous rescues from those environments. Being a bloody sailor doesn't give you any special insight that a normal, reasonably well educated person with the ability to reason and look at the situation with the available evidence wouldn't also have. It's OBVIOUS stuff and I think you're being spectacularly naive to think being a sailor gives you special knowledge just because it's water. Please note NONE of the news media reporting this story are courting interviews with people who have merely grown up on 31' sail boats, because they know NOTHING. A GCSE Geography school pupil probably knows more about the subsurface than a sailor.
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@clydecold9394 No one has anything to be sorry for. Whether people have died or not is irrelevant, doesn't mean we can't express and opinion or not or laugh at someone claiming growing up on a boat gives them special insight into highly pressurised sub sea environments completely unrelated to sailing.
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@TheBanatter Read them all. Just disagree that being a sailor means you know a thing about this story.
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@TheBanatter Why would they be more likely? Because they have done a bit of sailing? Yeah, that gives you a real insight into deep sea submersibles doesn't it?
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@TheBanatter The OPs original claim was that they knew they were lost because "they grew up on a 34' boat" that tells you NOTHING about whether or not these people were alive or dead. He subsequently added in "diving" because he knew he'd made a truly ridiculous claim. I don't know why you're doubling down on this. Sailing doesn't give you ANY special knowledge that a normal person wouldn't also have.
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@TheBanatter Yes, it's on the sea, but being a mountaineer doesn't mean you understand the geology of the mountain, not does it make you "more likely", like subsea to sailors it's a completely different and unrelated subject. You're making a conflation that because he grew up on a boat that he knows about the subsurface. There's no evidence he would know any more than anyone else. It's common sense information that EVERYONE with a brain knows. The sailor isn't in any more of an informed opinion than anyone else. You are not "more likely" at all. You've just surmised that on zero evidence at all. Sailing doesn't mean you go diving, and it certainly doesn't mean you go in a shambolic subsea submersible.
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@seanslattery6366 Yes he did. He said "as I grew up on a boat I knew they were gone" NO ONE claimed anyone could survive an implosion. An implosion is NOT the only viable reason for a lack of communication.
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@TheBanatter I was paraphrasing. He used his sailing experience as a boast that it gave him special insight. It doesn't. It gives him expertise in sailing, nothing else.
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@TheBanatter How does it? Sailing is not connected to diving other than they use water. It's like saying I drink water, therefore I understand whisky distilling. Initially his original claim was "I grew up on a boat, so knew they were gone" Why didn't he mention diving FIRST? I'd take his claims more seriously then. Bottom line is that sailing gives you no more insights, nor does it make it any more likely you'll understand the subsea environment any better than a non sailor. How many sailors were interviewed for their expertise? NONE
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@TheBanatter If i was wanting to convey that I might have knowledge about a subject, then you present the experience that gives you that knowledge, not one completely unrelated.
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@TheBanatter Sailing is not connected in the slightest to deep sea submersibles. It is like someone who has run for a bus trying to give an opinion on running a marathon. It has fuck all to do with it. Their views on running for a bus tell you NOTHING about running a marathon. Sailing a boat on the surface of the sea tells you nothing about being in a submersible at 6000psi. Don't be ridiculous.
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@TheBanatter You're trying to defend a stupid point. If I want information about subsea vessels, I won't ask a bloody sailor.
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@TheBanatter How are they more likely? Just because you sail, doesn't mean you are any more likely to understand pressure or sub marine vessels. That's a ridiculous claim. EVERYONE who has been to school and studied any sort of basic science KNOWS this information.
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@TheBanatter If that's the case they aren't going to learn anything from someone just because they are a sailor. You seem to be of a peculiar belief that you are only taught things in relation to your geographical location. You study geography, physics etc , not just the geography and physics of where you live. What sort of insular community do you think people live in? People thought they had a chance of survival IF the vessel was intact and IF the craft had a sufficiently long supply of oxygen and IF it could be found, no one thought people could survive an implosion, being a sailor doesn't give you anymore likely hood to be aware of that than a NORMAL person. PS, how do you know where people commenting on their survival chances live? You have no idea if they live on the coast or not or even if they sail or not. You're just pulling nonsense out of your backside.
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@jarnec9428 Yeah we do learn through experience and sharing knowledge, but that knowledge doesn't come BECAUSE YOU SAIL. His sailing is IRRELEVANT to this subject.
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It's about 5000psi down there, of course there's no bodies
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