Comments by "Miriam Weller" (@miriamweller812) on "The Critical Drinker"
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@kateris1976 Still a stupid copy/past form better death game stories. The whole setup of Hunger Games is ridiculous and having good written antagonist is just as if not even more important than the protagonists.
The antagonists of Hunger Games are retarded just as their idea of the Hunger Games.
Concept like Battle Royal are fucked up enough, but if you got a fascistic regime, it could be believeable enough, that supposedly unruly teenagers are pushed into a game of survival as example and punishment, even more when it's a low budget thing.
Hunger Games meanwhile are a gigantic waste of resources and all that to just randomly murder children, what will push people to uprise, the exact opposite of what you want as a dictatorship.
Would even be easy to fix, just cut out all the fancy high tech stuff (when you got a nation with such high tech, why the fuck would they even care to feed far less effective slaves?) and put those in the Hungers Games which DID uprise as example what happens to those who break the law and go against the order. Voila, already far better.
Now don't make the antagonists retarded and instead let the protagonists need to have an actual plan and cut out that nonsense, that the other children or district are evil, because they actually try to win - or at least let your protagonists not kill at all and just try to survive and go against the game for really having a moral high ground and don't let the oh so evil dictatorship bend the rules for him or her, then you got a good base for a potentially interesting story.
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What's simply not true, just like the stories about the "male/female" brain. It's a human brain. It got a hell lot of influence from pretty much everything and your biological sex is a very, very, small one of millions.
That's actually the main point of what gender was about: to disolve the idea that an individual is just all about being male or female - what simply NEVER was true.
We just love to make up stuff about it.
There IS a biological sex which exists for just that reason: sex. Reproduction, what make it necessary, that a baby has to grow up somewhere and can't just be divided and glue together in the end. You can add some other points to that, like on averags different in strength - though overall in modern days, it's not like we need big muscles for much. Such clearly biological differences are fine and true.
But beyond that we make up a hell lot of additional rules. For example that men shouldn't show or even have emotions. What is just insane, but overall: we want to waste men and tools ans soldiers, so it's good if men don't have feeling about that or any kind of self value, what could make them thing about "hey, why do I throw my health and life away like that?"
The less value men see in themselves, the better for a society that wants to abuse them.
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@NowAndToEternity Most peopel are stupid and stupid peopel love to hate on things to feel better. ~shrug~ Funny enough, most stupid peopel love actual stupid things, because, well, it's on their level.
Most super hero movies are utter bullshit and only tolerable when you just see them as cheap, dumb entertainment and often enough not even then. But oh do people love that shit full of plot holes and idiotic characters and of course protagonist who are mainly just dumb and incompetent, solely losing by that - what just ruins EVERY story, because a good story needs both, well writen protagonists AND antagonists. If one of that fails, that's already enough to make a story bad.
Flash handled that well. Even the Kryptonians were a serious force which in the end couldn't be beaten. A step most stories don't dare to go anymore, to let the protagonists fail.
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In contrast to the just overall bad remake, this one would be easy to fix, especially because they simply put too much into it.
1. Cancel the whole 'secret lab' plot line (and all characters mainly involved there). It went nowhere, what includes the whole ghost containment unit, what played no role at all at the end.
2. Let Melody focus on the Firemaster. If you want some vague girl/girl romance/friendship/whatever this was supposed to be, just make the character female. Since the Firemaster bloodline is the nemesis of the Ice God, this would have made much more sense.
3. If necessary, let Phoebe stay the sudden outsider, maybe by going agains the whole "must bust all ghosts" thing and try to study ghosts more (to stay with the "against the family" thing), what then leads to her going with an offer from Melody to show her how being a ghost feels like - what is then abused the same way by the Ice God and Melod betraying both, Firemaster and Phoebe (redemption can stay the same).
4. With Melody focusing on the Firemaster, don't try to make it a bad copy of the Keymaster from the first movie. Keymaster and Gatekeeper were both just sacrifices, so there was no need for any power developement. With the Firemaster bloodline playing such a big role at the end, you can't just start with shady clown then go with a funny clown, stupid clown -> superpowered savior "developement".
Starting with selling stuff Grandma's stuff can be fine, maybe money probs, depressed (since obviously no family left and also seeing how Grandma had big secrets going on never telling about it), but at least keep some character and good will, so when he/she wants to sell stuff but realises that there could be more behind it, that there is some investment from that side - what could be abused by Melody to get what she needs for her master.
Overall not even big changes, but would already cut away a lot of unncessary weight and focus more on the core characters.
While you per se could cut Melody, too, it's fine to have a minion like her, since the big bad is a bit too big bad to play much of a role from the start.
Other question would be if you want to start something like the whole Firemaster plot, but overall, since the stories of demons and ghosts, cultists and sorcerer and so on in Ghostbusters DO get a long way back for quite a while, the idea of some ancient Ghostbusters who used mystical powers isn't a bad one.
But if you do that, do it right - and don't make a clown story out of it. That's just sad, especially with the whole bad ass background, including his Grandma at start (obviously not only surviving the wrath of the God Prison, but managing to seal it again.
Overall odd anyway, that she just dies without telling anyone at all.
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@Snp2024 Not really, you can easily have good action without "jack ass" scenes. Many, many movies show this.
Often enough the over the top action stuff makes it look more stupid, because, yeah, normally humans would have a big problem with surviving his unharmed.
And all the car races are just ultra boring meanwhile anyway, especially because they don't really make sense and by that destroy the suspension of disbelief.
It's always the same: the race blindly through a city either completely void of cars or a clear path through them, so it's like "oh noes - ah, who cares, they make it anyway, as usual" and of course never any action of the police or even military, when someone is wagering a little private war inside their city. The drivers act like they are some magical beings who can see in the future, because they just know everything even before it happens. I mean, fine, then make a fantasy movie out of it.
Most of the time it's not even about giving a thrilling action scene, but mainly to show off what Mary Sue the character is, where the world bends around that guy or gal.
Good enough here and there, but it was done soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo often, it lost all color and taste.
It's simply lazy writing: "now the main char is doing the impossible, but succeeds, without explanation, because I wrote it."
Lazy writing is boring - and more and more annoying.
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Got the same problem as the first one: the villains are just as evil as they are stupid, what of course just leads nowhere.
This combined with the Nawi being savages with zero technology on their own while fighting an absolute high tech humankind, makes for the usual dumb fuckery you got in many bad stories.
See, it's fine to have an evil villain whose main power comes from being ruthless and it's also fine to have an antagonists, who is maybe even extremely powerful, but got reasons to not use that power and if its just moral.
IF you have both, well, then you have to go full Holocaust, means, if these humans are that evil and powerful, well, they will just burn those Nawi to ashes, easily, without any chance, because that's exactly what happens when a brutal high tech civilisation meets one that simply got nothing to put against that power.
If you don't do that, well, you get a stupid plot, where the evil super power guy just has to never use any of their power and never is ruthless beside against some nameless C level characters to show the "I'm evul!" part, then lose thanks to that obvious brain damage. Yay... thanks for being so fucking lazy, writers.
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Sad enough, while not being that annoying, that Mario movie also shows the big problem.
While Mario and even more Luigi are big 'losers' at the start, Peach is super competent and powerful to the point, where it doesn't even make any sense at all, why she even waits for Mario, since time is clearly not on her side. She watches that stranger failing a whole day (and overall: it's actually a wonder, how he improves in a single day that much), while she managed it instantly.
And the problem isn't even that she's that good and he's that bad, that she grew up there, while he's just a normal (small and overweight) guy from Brooklyn who isn't used to all this, makes absolultely sense.
The problem is, that there is nowhere to go from there for her. She is already peak level performance, super strong, pretty, beloved, everyone loves her, even the bad guy, so... yeah, what developement could she have? Even her 'weakness', the compassion for mushroom people, only leads to her becoming even more badass, but since you somehow need the other guys to also haver their big final fight, she then has to be pushed aside for the Kongs and Mario Brothers getting their moments.
Reminded me of that other animation movie How to train your Dragon 2. You got this bad ass dragon tamer, who outclasses all others by far and oh wonder, it's his mother. But after that moment, since she already started at that gigantic level of being better than all others, she's simply shoved aside, because if she would keep being that powerful and active, it would just take away from all the other characters.
They are like that one powerful NPC you sometimes got in RPGs, who would easily finish the whole story on his/her own, so something must happen to push them out of the story, your loser troop can struggle with and grow with it.
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@ventusbruma1039 Problem of Katniss is more the whole story. Katniss herself is more a playball and isn't really doin anything special. There is overall ZERO reason that the bad guys care about her. They could kill her as they please. The whole Hunger Games concept alone shows, tha the do not care at all how the districts think about them, since they literally just take random children and send them in there. If people don't rise up by that, why should the care for Katniss, who overall didn't do shit, she simply took part in the Games and won. The reason two survived wasn't here, but the bad guys let them. And the don't need a survivor, why should they? They can simply declare that her district one, because she died last and they get the promised stuff.
The whole story makes no sense at all.
Battle Royal was a much better and believeable setting by the fact alone, that they took "bad acting kids" there. If true or not doen't even matter, it sells it well and pushed people to hate these kids and try to not be like them.
Or take Running Man. The main point of it was, that the people who were put in the game weren't all criminals and that there was no way to survive it. That was the actual turning point, to reveal that. That the main char was innocent.
Would have helped Hunger Games a lot, if criminal kids (or even better adults) would have been put into the games, as example that people shouldn't dare to raise against the regime and its laws. Katniss or her sister could have been caught stealing and then like Richards maybe blamed of worse, that they are terrorist. Then her denial to kill could have raised the question, if she really is a terrorist and this could have led to the regime trying to make her part of their propaganda of rehabiliation, where they try to make her admit that she did this terrorism act, but repents. This way it would make sense, that she was build up to that big PR figure for example.
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