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HEY THAT’S MY CAR! 😍😍 It’s definitely surprised a lot of people I’ve encountered that they still make this. I’ve been super happy with mine over 3.5 years and 50k miles. I understand the space constraints relative to, say, a Civic hatch, but it’s had all the space I’ve needed (have fit whole bikes inside with the front tire off and the back seats down) and the only passenger I’ve driven who hasn’t fit in the back seats is my 6’3 dad. Driving wise, it does lean more toward the luxury/refinement end of the spectrum, but it can hang if you want to hustle every once in a while. The manual was super easy for me to get used to, but my only issue with it is with the more efficiency-focused gearing, the gears are fairly far spaced, which, with some of these Seattle hills, can be annoying. Hill start assist is a godsend, though, as is radar cruise control with the manual for road trips. Drove mine from LA to SF, SF to Seattle, and on countless trips now from Seattle to Portland and back. Best efficiency on the highway I’ve seen is 37-38 mpg. Overall, Realistick mentioned this in his review, but this is one of those very precisely and specifically targeted cars for a particular customer, but if you are one of those people, there’s nothing else quite like it. Would be a great new car for someone coming out of something like a 6-speed Volvo C30 or Audi A3. Ok, thanks for coming to my owner’s TedTalk.
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HEY THAT’S MY CAR! 😍😍 It’s definitely surprised a lot of people I’ve encountered that they still make this. I’ve been super happy with mine over 3.5 years and 50k miles. I understand the space constraints relative to, say, a Civic hatch, but it’s had all the space I’ve needed (have fit whole bikes inside with the front tire off and the back seats down) and the only passenger I’ve driven who hasn’t fit in the back seats is my 6’3 dad. Driving wise, it does lean more toward the luxury/refinement end of the spectrum, but it can hang if you want to hustle every once in a while. The manual was super easy for me to get used to, but my only issue with it is with the more efficiency-focused gearing, the gears are fairly far spaced, which, with some of these Seattle hills, can be annoying. Hill start assist is a godsend, though, as is radar cruise control with the manual for road trips. Drove mine from LA to SF, SF to Seattle, and on countless trips now from Seattle to Portland and back. Best efficiency on the highway I’ve seen is 37-38 mpg. Overall, Realistick mentioned this in his review, but this is one of those very precisely and specifically targeted cars for a particular customer, but if you are one of those people, there’s nothing else quite like it. Would be a great new car for someone coming out of something like a 6-speed Volvo C30 or Audi A3. Ok, thanks for coming to my owner’s TedTalk.
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I’ve got a manual one of these 3 hatches with the base 2.5, and I thought about one of these Turbo models but decided against it for a couple reasons. As you said in your last 3 Turbo review, manual is definitely more fun and it’s also important to support the manual new nowadays. But also, as aware as I am that Mazda’s a small automaker with limited resources, I do think they missed an opportunity here to make this more of a hotter hatch. That’s not to say I wish it was a Veloster N/Civic Type R kind of rival. I think this could have been a great, say, AWD Japanese GTI in the balance between luxury/comfort amenities and driving enjoyment. This leans a little too much toward the former for me. And think about what happened the last time Mazda offered a quality, reliable, Japanese interpretation of a fun, sporty European icon. That recipe sound familiar???😏 I really think that could have been a hit for them, and I confess myself a little bit sad at this premium comfort/luxury angle Mazda’s taking and all the edges they’re smoothing over. We’ll see how it works out for them ultimately, though.
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The 3rd gen 3 was one of the cars I think of as foundational to my automotive passion to be honest. I was smitten at how good it looked, and it was honestly thrilling just to read about what a hero of a driver it was in all the magazines and websites. It was amazing to me that a small, yet might company like Mazda that had just gone independent could engineer such a brilliant-to-drive compact car that looked like a million bucks and had a segment-top interior and yet price it competitively with the competition when Toyota and Honda had been phoning in the Corolla and Civic. Fast forward to when the fourth gen came out, and I was looking for a fun stick shift compact (not necessarily hot) hatch. I ultimately decided on a manual NA FWD version of one of these 4th gen hatches, even though it isn’t quite the driver the 3rd gen was. I wanted something NA instead of, say, a Civic or a Hyundai/Kia with a 1.5/1.6T, and I preferred this overall to a Corolla hatch (for primarily interior and torquiness of the 2.5 vs. the Toyota 2.0). Though I’ve been very happy with it, don’t get me wrong, I’m a little saddened at this whole premium/luxury shift happening with Mazda, and that was the primary reason I decided against a Turbo hatch. If I wanted something with this much power, I’d just get a hot hatch personally, and as aware as I am that Mazda’s a small company with limited resources, I do think they missed an opportunity here to make this a hotter hatch. That’s not to say I think this needs to rival, say, the Veloster N and Civic Type R, but I think this could have been an amazing AWD Japanese GTI. And here’s why I say that - think about what happened last time Mazda offered a quality, reliable, Japanese interpretation of a fun, sporty, European icon. That recipe sound familiar??? Sure, that was 30 years ago now, but with how controversial the Mk8 GTI has been, I still think that really could have been a hit. And I think Mazda is putting a little too much pressure on themselves to grow up to be honest. They can have the luxurious, premium amenities AND the fun, sporty character AT THE SAME TIME! It’s been done before (that’s the whole thesis statement of the GTI, is it not?), and I think they could have achieved that balance in a little bit more of an enthusiast-friendly way with these Turbo 3’s. But then again, there are aftermarket companies like Corksport up here in the PNW that can help with that, if that’s what you’re after. Let’s see what the RWD models bring. Ok thanks for coming to my Mazda owner TedTalk.
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Still love the Stinger GT. If I wanted a fast, fun, practical 4-door for ~$50k, I’d head straight for one of these and wouldn’t think twice about it. No, it’s not perfect, but none of the slight shortcomings would be dealbreakers for me personally. And as much as I try to stay above discussions of brand stigma, image, perception, stereotypes, etc., what I do think there’s something to be said for in that respect about the Stinger GT is that it’s off the beaten path. It’s an insider’s choice and shows that you’re an intelligent buyer, and to me that’s worth more than any Audi or BMW or Mercedes logo.
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The futuristic film analogy of the final thoughts is a great one. Hadn’t looked at it that way but it makes a lot of sense. This S Class, to me, represents what happens when an automaker gets too caught up in consumer trends and market pressure without any critical thought as to whether it actually makes for a better, easier-to-use, enjoyable-to-drive product. With so many other luxury automakers making the tech-everything dive, I wish Mercedes would put their foot down, take a stand, and approach their interiors with a “tech in moderation” mindset. It may not be giving their target market exactly what they say they want, but it would absolutely make for less distracting, more user-intuitive vehicles, especially in the long term (though yes, I know hardly anyone keeps these long term). Not holding my breath, though.
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Cool getting to learn more about you and your journey to TheTopher/WR/DM! Funnily enough, even being in grad school for engineering now, I still have a lot of interest in getting into automotive YouTube/content creation, and sometimes I wish I had just gotten onto that path from the beginning lol. I could definitely see myself contributing to a channel like Daily Motor or something in the future. Probably on the side to start out and if I don’t end up liking engineering then try to make it full time.
Love the Stinger GT, too. Super cool car. As much as I try to stay above discussions of brand stigma, image issues, stereotypes of cars and buyers, etc personally, there’s something to be said for the fact that it’s an insider’s choice and shows you’re an intelligent buyer. I’ve seen quite a few of ‘em at car meets and supposedly they actually respond really well to mods. People push GT’s to like 500 hp on stock internals, and some of the exhausts low key make them sound like Ghiblis. Pretty wild stuff, and definitely hope people keep buying them new so Kia keeps making them!
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It’s taken me quite some time to warm up to the new NSX if I’m honest, but I think I’m getting there. For some background, I credit the 911 for making me a car guy. Our neighbor across the street had a 996 and he was nice enough to let me sit in it, and from that moment on, I was hooked on cars. Since then, I’ve really come to appreciate how steadily and carefully the 911 has evolved from generation to generation as I’ve grown up. When the new NSX first came out, I thought Acura went wayyyyyyy out over their skis with the tech. It seemed so detached from the purity and simplicity that the original NSX represented and way too video gamey and digital to me to be a rewarding driver’s car. I still think that to a certain degree, but much less so than when it first came out. And hey, NSX does stand for NEW Sports Experimental, so by it’s very name, it can’t be what a 911 is. Maybe I didn’t quite approach it with an open enough mind at first. Still, though, what I’d like to see is a RWD NSX - keep the rear electric motor for the torque fill and the electric only driving capability, but ditch the two front motors to get some of the organic feel back. I’d be willing to take the hit to the 0-60 and handling numbers to get that feel back. Just my thoughts, though.
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A constructive criticism if I may as a fan of the channel. In your passing mention of the Wagoneer, I would have appreciated a reference to a specific, concrete, verifiable and widely-documented powertrain issue with the Hurricane Inline 6 if you’re going to make a reliability critique. Otherwise, I would have liked that comparison to focus on other merits of the vehicles themselves, whether that’s other aspects of driving dynamics (ride, handling, cabin noise, fuel economy, etc.) or interior attributes (space, materials, design, features, etc.) or what have you. To simply take a passing swipe at Stellantis and their reliability reputation in the way you did I found to be unprofessional. Otherwise, I enjoyed the review overall and appreciated your specifics in your comparisons to the Expedition and GM full-size offerings.
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Yes, the name is dumb, and no, I don’t love some of the exterior body cladding and interior design choices, but I actually appreciate the “normal,” “boring” driving experience, weird as that might sound. I’m just getting tired of all these new EV’s that feel the need to be statement pieces and (figuratively) shout at everyone that THEY’RE FAST AND COOL and shove contrived marketing sex appeal down our throats, and I think it’s refreshing that this is comfortable just embodying the classic Toyota philosophy: easy to live with, dynamics more comfortable than sporty, and built to outlast almost anything else. It may be NPC from a driving standpoint, as savagegeese often likes to say, but it’s good at that, and that shouldn’t be held against it in my book.
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This has always been a tricky one for me. This 2nd gen NSX was the first car I remember reading about where everyone who drove it had a wiiiiiiiiildly different opinion of it. I remember Automobile Mag loving it right away, Car and Driver and Road and Track being kinda lukewarm on it, and Motor Trend not feeling it at all, at least initially. For me personally, having been made a car guy from the 911, I really appreciate how steadily and carefully it’s evolved from generation to generation, and that evolutionary approach has made it easy to maintain a mental relationship with it. This, by its very name (New Sports eXperimental), can’t be that, and I’m not saying that that’s bad - it’s just not what I’m most naturally drawn to. Though I should disclaim up front that I’ve never driven or even ridden in one, I still find the powertrain tech to be overboard and little too much for a driver’s car. Personally, I wish they’d gone with a RWD setup with just the rear electric motor for boost/torque fill and ditch the front motors. Yes, you’d lose the AWD some of the handling tricks those front motors can do, but the return in actual mechanical feedback would be absolutely worth it imo. I will say, though, that I think the criticism these get can be too harsh. Cool that Acura decided to even develop this, even if it’s not what I’d hoped it would be.
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Thank you for sharing your thoughts on this; it's amazing how down-to-Earth you are and your vulnerability is so admirable. I'll be honest - I've been into cars for most of my life, but it's something that, with most people, I don't like to talk about very much and try to keep a secret. I just don't have anything to speak for it and I feel like there's some sort of shame in that. On top of that, I fear the awkwardness of taking those first steps of getting into all this stuff, especially because I'm a very slow learner and need lots of time to master new things. At least for me, another one of the toxic aspects of the whole YouTube car scene is that it has allowed me to build this passion inside a bubble and keep it all to myself, and after a while, holding it all inside gets really, REALLY tiring. I've made some progress in trying to be more open about being into cars, but there's certainly still a long way for me to go. I've just got to remind myself that everybody starts somewhere and keep moving, even when the going gets tough. You're truly a special person, Tedward, and I hope you always remember that. I'm sure I speak for many when I say that you're such an inspiration and that I love you so much! Please keep doing what you're doing and never stop!
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I used to roll my eyes and be like “yeah, yeah, whatever” when people would say “don’t follow the traditional path,” “chase your dreams,” and stuff like that about your 20’s. If you’d told me 7-8 years ago that I’d be interning with a company called Insanity Lab Racing designing and making carbon fiber racecar parts in the middle of nowhere in the Washington woods, I would have told you you were…well…insane. But after a few weeks there now, I’m starting to get what that means. It’s far from one of the big name companies around Seattle that all these engineers go find jobs at, like Boeing or PACCAR or Blue Origin, but it’s super hands-on, something different each day, and the guys I’m working with are absolute racecar masterminds. And this was what I told myself I’d wanted all through undergrad - somewhere I could manifest my enthusiasm for cars and be around people who share my automotive passion! And hey, if this doesn’t end up being what I want long term, I can always use this experience to get myself into some other kind of composite engineering. But don’t be afraid to get creative - I literally found this company through a Seattle Cars and Coffee Facebook group. You never know how the right opportunity will come across your path.
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It all comes down to balance, like most things in life. Believe in your own approach, but be open to the genuinely constructive criticism. A helpful video to watch, especially as I’m trying to think about how I want to form a secondary income generator of some sort on the side. Luckily, I do enjoy my primary engineering job a lot, and the pay/benefits are ample for me to live comfortably, but a side hustle of some sort would help me achieve my savings and garage goals more quickly. The thing about that kind of endeavor, though, is it has to be something that I have enough passion for that it’s enjoyable in my little free time available outside the 9-to-5 life, yet something that also generates the income I’m looking to generate by monetizing it. There’s a happy zone to be found somewhere in the middle, though. Just gotta give and take a bit.
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Hmmm...to me, there’s still a lot to like about Mazda. I think they make the best looking mainstream cars on the market, period. Inside and out. Distinctive and unique while still being tasteful, elegant and classy. Mazda does that better than just about anyone. To Sofyan’s point, they’ve definitely been more evolutionary than revolutionary, but I’m fine with that. That’s just me, though. I’m a little saddened by the loss of the independent rear and the overall luxury bent in the new Mazda3, I will admit. But there are plenty of reasons I’d still give the Mazda3 a long, hard look if I was in the market for a compact car. I think what I love most about Mazda is their dedication and passion as a company. They know exactly who they are, they’re very principled, they’re careful in making decisions on following trends in the industry based on those principles, and you can tell that they really care about the products they put out in the market. They don’t just look at what everyone else is doing and go in the same direction. That attitude doesn’t always necessarily translate to increasing sales, but it’s something I have tremendous respect for and it’s becoming more and more rare in the industry and I think it’s worth recognizing.
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My biggest hope on this topic is that we all have as many choices as much of the time as possible. Having lived in downtown Seattle for almost a year now, I’ve walked places, I’ve ridden my bike places, I’ve driven places, I’ve taken the bus, I’ve taken Ubers, I’ve taken ferries, and I’ve taken the rail line. Pretty much every way of getting round except for the streetcars. If self-driving cars are another choice among those, totally open to that. Will that likely be the case everywhere all the time? Probably not, considering the environment self-driving cars need to operate most efficiently. Personally I’d still like the choice to drive as many places as possible. But I recognize that there’s a place and a role for self-driving cars in the future for those who’d simply like to be transported from A to B as quickly as possible, especially in urban areas. Hopefully we can find a way where we can all get along and get around as we choose in situations where that makes sense.
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As purely daily drivers, sure, EV’s make a lot of sense, and I’d definitely consider owning one for simply that purpose. But while the crazy speed and flat handling certainly seem impressive, I would need more than just those things to consider an EV fun to drive from my enthusiast standpoint. Namely, there would have to be a more dynamic sensation to the power delivery. But perhaps that will come further down the line. Like for instance, I’d love to see someone program an electric motor to deliver power like an EJ25. Or from a handling standpoint, leave a little more body roll in there. Make it feel less “video-gamey.” An in terms of the interior, leave some hard buttons for commonly used controls, please! I’m definitely more open to EV’s than I used to be, and while I wouldn’t have one as my only car, I’m excited to see where they go in the future.
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