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HEY THAT’S MY CAR! 😍😍 It’s definitely surprised a lot of people I’ve encountered that they still make this. I’ve been super happy with mine over 3.5 years and 50k miles. I understand the space constraints relative to, say, a Civic hatch, but it’s had all the space I’ve needed (have fit whole bikes inside with the front tire off and the back seats down) and the only passenger I’ve driven who hasn’t fit in the back seats is my 6’3 dad. Driving wise, it does lean more toward the luxury/refinement end of the spectrum, but it can hang if you want to hustle every once in a while. The manual was super easy for me to get used to, but my only issue with it is with the more efficiency-focused gearing, the gears are fairly far spaced, which, with some of these Seattle hills, can be annoying. Hill start assist is a godsend, though, as is radar cruise control with the manual for road trips. Drove mine from LA to SF, SF to Seattle, and on countless trips now from Seattle to Portland and back. Best efficiency on the highway I’ve seen is 37-38 mpg. Overall, Realistick mentioned this in his review, but this is one of those very precisely and specifically targeted cars for a particular customer, but if you are one of those people, there’s nothing else quite like it. Would be a great new car for someone coming out of something like a 6-speed Volvo C30 or Audi A3. Ok, thanks for coming to my owner’s TedTalk.
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HEY THAT’S MY CAR! 😍😍 It’s definitely surprised a lot of people I’ve encountered that they still make this. I’ve been super happy with mine over 3.5 years and 50k miles. I understand the space constraints relative to, say, a Civic hatch, but it’s had all the space I’ve needed (have fit whole bikes inside with the front tire off and the back seats down) and the only passenger I’ve driven who hasn’t fit in the back seats is my 6’3 dad. Driving wise, it does lean more toward the luxury/refinement end of the spectrum, but it can hang if you want to hustle every once in a while. The manual was super easy for me to get used to, but my only issue with it is with the more efficiency-focused gearing, the gears are fairly far spaced, which, with some of these Seattle hills, can be annoying. Hill start assist is a godsend, though, as is radar cruise control with the manual for road trips. Drove mine from LA to SF, SF to Seattle, and on countless trips now from Seattle to Portland and back. Best efficiency on the highway I’ve seen is 37-38 mpg. Overall, Realistick mentioned this in his review, but this is one of those very precisely and specifically targeted cars for a particular customer, but if you are one of those people, there’s nothing else quite like it. Would be a great new car for someone coming out of something like a 6-speed Volvo C30 or Audi A3. Ok, thanks for coming to my owner’s TedTalk.
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I’ve got a manual one of these 3 hatches with the base 2.5, and I thought about one of these Turbo models but decided against it for a couple reasons. As you said in your last 3 Turbo review, manual is definitely more fun and it’s also important to support the manual new nowadays. But also, as aware as I am that Mazda’s a small automaker with limited resources, I do think they missed an opportunity here to make this more of a hotter hatch. That’s not to say I wish it was a Veloster N/Civic Type R kind of rival. I think this could have been a great, say, AWD Japanese GTI in the balance between luxury/comfort amenities and driving enjoyment. This leans a little too much toward the former for me. And think about what happened the last time Mazda offered a quality, reliable, Japanese interpretation of a fun, sporty European icon. That recipe sound familiar???😏 I really think that could have been a hit for them, and I confess myself a little bit sad at this premium comfort/luxury angle Mazda’s taking and all the edges they’re smoothing over. We’ll see how it works out for them ultimately, though.
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The 3rd gen 3 was one of the cars I think of as foundational to my automotive passion to be honest. I was smitten at how good it looked, and it was honestly thrilling just to read about what a hero of a driver it was in all the magazines and websites. It was amazing to me that a small, yet might company like Mazda that had just gone independent could engineer such a brilliant-to-drive compact car that looked like a million bucks and had a segment-top interior and yet price it competitively with the competition when Toyota and Honda had been phoning in the Corolla and Civic. Fast forward to when the fourth gen came out, and I was looking for a fun stick shift compact (not necessarily hot) hatch. I ultimately decided on a manual NA FWD version of one of these 4th gen hatches, even though it isn’t quite the driver the 3rd gen was. I wanted something NA instead of, say, a Civic or a Hyundai/Kia with a 1.5/1.6T, and I preferred this overall to a Corolla hatch (for primarily interior and torquiness of the 2.5 vs. the Toyota 2.0). Though I’ve been very happy with it, don’t get me wrong, I’m a little saddened at this whole premium/luxury shift happening with Mazda, and that was the primary reason I decided against a Turbo hatch. If I wanted something with this much power, I’d just get a hot hatch personally, and as aware as I am that Mazda’s a small company with limited resources, I do think they missed an opportunity here to make this a hotter hatch. That’s not to say I think this needs to rival, say, the Veloster N and Civic Type R, but I think this could have been an amazing AWD Japanese GTI. And here’s why I say that - think about what happened last time Mazda offered a quality, reliable, Japanese interpretation of a fun, sporty, European icon. That recipe sound familiar??? Sure, that was 30 years ago now, but with how controversial the Mk8 GTI has been, I still think that really could have been a hit. And I think Mazda is putting a little too much pressure on themselves to grow up to be honest. They can have the luxurious, premium amenities AND the fun, sporty character AT THE SAME TIME! It’s been done before (that’s the whole thesis statement of the GTI, is it not?), and I think they could have achieved that balance in a little bit more of an enthusiast-friendly way with these Turbo 3’s. But then again, there are aftermarket companies like Corksport up here in the PNW that can help with that, if that’s what you’re after. Let’s see what the RWD models bring. Ok thanks for coming to my Mazda owner TedTalk.
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Green on green on green! You guys might as well call this Will Long spec🤤
A personal anecdote as to how I’ve come to look at Genesis models. One of the earliest and most formative moments of my budding car enthusiasm came when I was 12-13ish years old and I watched Alex on Autos review the previous gen Hyundai Genesis (before it became the Genesis G80) and the Kia K900. Alex had (and still does, but not as strongly now imo) such a value-oriented view of cars, EVEN IN segments like the midsize luxury segment, and he came away so impressed first and foremost by the value proposition and case for themselves that those cars offered in the market. I specifically remember him ending the Hyundai Genesis review by saying that “I know that brand is a big deal in the luxury segment, but it just isn’t for me, and this would be my personal choice in this segment because of the features, functions, looks, etc. etc. of the car” and ending the K900 review with the question of “Why are you buying a luxury car? Because it’s $90,000 and has a Lexus badge? Or because of the way it coddles you and your passengers, the way it handles and the way it accelerates?” He genuinely encouraged shoppers to ask themselves how much the brand was worth to them. He was probably one of the very, very, very, very, very few people offered that kind perspective on those vehicles, and little did 12 year old me know how much of anything about the the “average luxury car buyer’s” shopping habits, but it made so much pure logical sense to me to judge the merits and qualities of the car and not the badge. And even if he was the only person on the entire planet to review those cars the way he did, I will be eternally grateful for those videos for teaching me to simply not care about the brand and to just judge the car.
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Cool getting to learn more about you and your journey to TheTopher/WR/DM! Funnily enough, even being in grad school for engineering now, I still have a lot of interest in getting into automotive YouTube/content creation, and sometimes I wish I had just gotten onto that path from the beginning lol. I could definitely see myself contributing to a channel like Daily Motor or something in the future. Probably on the side to start out and if I don’t end up liking engineering then try to make it full time.
Love the Stinger GT, too. Super cool car. As much as I try to stay above discussions of brand stigma, image issues, stereotypes of cars and buyers, etc personally, there’s something to be said for the fact that it’s an insider’s choice and shows you’re an intelligent buyer. I’ve seen quite a few of ‘em at car meets and supposedly they actually respond really well to mods. People push GT’s to like 500 hp on stock internals, and some of the exhausts low key make them sound like Ghiblis. Pretty wild stuff, and definitely hope people keep buying them new so Kia keeps making them!
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Thank you for sharing your thoughts on this; it's amazing how down-to-Earth you are and your vulnerability is so admirable. I'll be honest - I've been into cars for most of my life, but it's something that, with most people, I don't like to talk about very much and try to keep a secret. I just don't have anything to speak for it and I feel like there's some sort of shame in that. On top of that, I fear the awkwardness of taking those first steps of getting into all this stuff, especially because I'm a very slow learner and need lots of time to master new things. At least for me, another one of the toxic aspects of the whole YouTube car scene is that it has allowed me to build this passion inside a bubble and keep it all to myself, and after a while, holding it all inside gets really, REALLY tiring. I've made some progress in trying to be more open about being into cars, but there's certainly still a long way for me to go. I've just got to remind myself that everybody starts somewhere and keep moving, even when the going gets tough. You're truly a special person, Tedward, and I hope you always remember that. I'm sure I speak for many when I say that you're such an inspiration and that I love you so much! Please keep doing what you're doing and never stop!
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I mentioned this in the live drive, but this seems like one of those vehicles that doesn’t have anything overtly wrong with it, but is just kind of cursed by stiff competition in its segment. Lots to choose from in this area - X5, GLE, (S)Q7, MDX, QX60, RX(L), GV80, XC90, Aviator, XT6, the Grand Cherokee you cited frequently, etc. I think this’ll end up appealing to buyers who value the off-road capability or those who simply want something different in this segment.
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