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I think this is pretty shameless. I remember my native country did something similar with a neighboring country during WW1 and in all honesty I am embarrassed that we stooped that low. Personally, I don't care if they come to Europe or that it costs money, as long they will go back once their home countries are save. My issue with both the left and the right is that there doesn't seem any intent in doing this. Basically the left wants all of them to become citizens and the right wants to integrate them into the workforce. For example here, this policy assumes they will be here for a decade. However, the war in Syria, for example, shouldn't take nearly that long.
Give the adults some good, short-term, practical courses for mechanical and, electrical engineering, nursing/health care etc, all the stuff their home country will need after the war is over. Separate schools for their children where they learn Arabic, English and math. Then when things cool down, wish them luck, and put them on a train/bus/plane/ship and send them on the way back to their home country.
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Le Monde (30-04-2022), "Numerous police reports of possible needle spiking in France have been filed over the last few weeks, recording visible marks, nausea and fainting. *Drugs tests, however, haven't detected any injected substances*."
Vice (20-01-2022), "There is no evidence of any cases of people being spiked by injection, the UK’s private security watchdog and second biggest police force have said."
Psychology Today (20-02-2022) , "Despite over 1300 'attacks' in the past 6 months, there is yet to be a single confirmed case or conviction."
Yet, France24 makes it out as though its established fact that these attacks are taking place.
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1) Far right groups plan a protest in Charlottesville weeks before. Get official permission
2) Just days before, the mayor of Charlottesville decides to retract the permission for the protest
3) With help of the ACLU the organizers go to court and get the permission reinstated
4) During the protest the police refuse the Far right protestors access to the park where they were supposed to hold a speech
5) The police declare an unlawful assembly, something that was officially declared already at 10:00 AM, before much had happened
6) Less clear here, but apparently by denying them entrance, the Far-right groups had to go back through or very close to the left/far-left counter protestors. Police seems to be absent now even though having significant numbers (even heard there were more police than protestors)
7) Fights ensue between far right and far left groups like we've seen at Berkley
8) Far right guy decides to take revenge (or maybe he panicked, nobody really knows, but former is assumed) and drives a car into a crowd, killing one woman and wounding dozens of other people
9) Apparently unrelated, but a police helicopter crashes nearby, killing the 2 occupants
10) Media blames the far right for everything, (sometimes even implicitly for the 2 police officers in the helicopter crash). Portrays the far right as the only ones that engaged in violence
11) Trump is asked to denounce the far right, he does I think upto 3 times now, but also says violence happened on both sides
12) Media goes into a frenzy.
Things of note: There was a survivalist/militant group there called the Oathkeepers. They carried assault rifles and were in military uniforms. People cite them as proof the right came armed to the teeth, but these people are basically LARP-ers, believing that one day they will have to safe guard the American people when the US government becomes tyrannical. (or something like that)
I've heard there were about 500 far right protestors.
They held a impromptu torch rally the evening before. There were some minor scuffles at the end of that between left and right wing protestors
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Alin Popescu Sending people to a worn-torn country, even if they're criminals, would be unethical. I'm all for sending people from safe areas back. If they commit crimes, they can stay for the duration, but in jail. Where I live we currently have more prison personnel than prisoners, so there is enough room for that.
I don't buy the "we need cheap workers" argument that the right uses. There is a huge unemployment in Southern Europe. If companies need more employees, they can go work to attract those people. I have nothing against people from Southern or Eastern EU countries coming here to work, to allow that is the whole point of the principle of freedom of movement.
As for the "good apples" among them, I don't care if some of them have a desire to work. They will raise kids here, get a house and other possessions, and it will end up creating an anchor. This is how Europe ended up with millions of people from Turkey and Northern Africa. Don't allow them to work. Integrate them as less as possible and prepare them for their return, which should be inevitable.
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shalkella chin I don't think that's true, even we pretend to be ignorant about the in differences in demographic between blacks and whites, like you seem to be doing here. Of the people who receive welfare, 38.8% are white, while 39.8% are black. Now these numbers are from January 2015, and they're close, so maybe somewhere in the past more white people were on welfare as black people. However, this ignores the fact that white Americans make up a far larger share of the US population. About 72% of US citizens are white, while around 15% are black. (census.gov, 2010). As you can see, black people are disproportionately represented when it comes to welfare. I hope this helps.
Sources:
http://www.statisticbrain.com/welfare-statistics/
http://www.census.gov/prod/cen2010/briefs/c2010br-02.pdf
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The new frontier of the beginning of the 21th century was the internet. Many pioneering companies started in the 90's, all setup by men and these men subsequently left the women of their generation in their wake. Now people complain how these women were 'discriminated against', while the internet from the start was an equal opportunity playing field were even youngster could do well. The next frontier will be the industrialization of space, and yet again we see it are the men who are setting up the pioneering companies.
It is true that women make up most of the college graduates nowadays, but then, there are also many more 'pointless' fields now, such as psychology, sociology, pedagogy, arts, languages, etc. The fields that matter are the sciences, the real ones, physics, mathematics, chemistry, astronomy, engineering, IT, all fields were, apparently, women still "need help" getting into.
In short, women have been missing the boat, because they either were not smart enough, dedicated enough, cared enough. They will keep missing the boat because of this. Any legislation changing the subsequent outcomes won't help since it will only address the symptoms and not the actual problem, namely that women have different drives and interests.
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Richard Taylor Look at you, you think that that I'm an idiot and a waste of your time, yet here you are replying again. This is why you only have yourself to blame.
Anyway, I deliberately tried to break my response down, to be clear and succinct (like a fortune cookie). You seem to be very emotionally invested in this show, and apparently don't like it when someone else is skeptical. (e.g. you replied several times with the same response to different users) I only pointed out that the show's reliance on facts doesn't mean it has no bias, since, as Logi Wan points out, people with a pet narrative do the same thing.
That doesn't mean I was contradicting you, since I didn't say that the show is biased either. And as for the existence of "the very statement" I was referring too. I wasn't referring to a specific statement you or this show makes. It applies to any statement. I would think this was obvious, so I'm not sure why you were confused by this.
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Jasminewynja I used to think that NATO had served it's purpose, but I can thank Russia for showing me the light. So to answer your question, "who needs NATO?", I think every country that borders Russia would be better off as a NATO member. That NATO is of no benefit to tax payers is just flat out wrong, for many countries it actually the other way around, NATO membership has allowed them to cut back on defense for years. And AFAIK, NATO was not involved in the Iraq war (this was an American lead war), nor in Syria. The only conflicts NATO was involved in were Kosovo war, Afghanistan and the uprising in Libya.
As for the EU, I'm not going to comment specifically on the 5 points you make since I've no idea where you're from. There are aspects of the EU I don't like, such as the tendency to sometimes decide legislation in secrecy (this is btw on the level of the EU commission and council of ministers, not the European parliament), but guess what, this is no different to what governments do on the national level. It are then also the national governments (who you seem to put on a democratic pedestal) that facilitate and are a part of this.
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+Denis Sokolov It's funny how at no point did I belittle the Soviet involvement in world war 2, yet the mere mention of America being a participant in WW2 makes you Russians throw a hissy fit. Btw, if you had read my subsequent comments you would have known that I acknowledge already beforehand that Russia carried the European war, but also that the USA carried the war in the Pacific.
We can speculate on the importance of the American contribution on ending the war in Europe, but we'll never know, since we can't rewind time and find out. And you can speculate both ways, for example, you could argue that the USA kept Britain into the war, and Britain broke the German airforce during the Battle of Britain. Its mere existence as an unoccupied territory meant the Germans could never fully commit to its Eastern front as well.
Of course, this is mere speculation, and also irrelevant since even though the war might have been won in the long run, it would have been of little use since then Western Europe would have fallen under Soviet influence the same as Eastern Europe had. For many people that would hardly be considered an improvement over being occupied by Nazi Germany.
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A currency devaluation is a bad way to make your economy competitive. You are making everyone in the country poorer, while it only gives a country a temporary competitive boost. If a country does not rely on money printing, companies are forced to cut costs and innovate to maintain competitiveness. Greece (and Spain and Italy and Portugal) aren't uncompetitive because they can't devalue their currencies but because they've historically always done this.
Greece already had a high debt before the Euro and that they already had an uncompetitive economy as well then. The only difference the Euro made in this is that it has offered Greece historic low interest rates. A responsible country would use that to benefit their fiscal budget and reduce their debt. (like they were supposed to under the Maastricht agreement, I might add). However, Greece hasn't done this. They kept lending, misled their lenders in order to keep their interest low, and now this has been revealed, the market adjusted Greece's credit worthiness.
Also, if they would print money in this situation, as the video suggest, it would only lead to lenders demanding even higher interest rates.
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***** The alternative was Turkey not cooperating at all. Because the EU can offer Turkey something they want, a (travel) visa for some of its citizens, a deal is possible.
In contract, visa to singular EU countries, such as Greece, is much less appealing to Turkey. They would have little incentive to do anything then, which would mean the unhindered, uncontrolled migration we've had would continue.
So here as well, as a whole Europe can make a better deal. In this instance, imo, it's not a very good deal for Europe regardless, but that's because Turkey holds a stronger position here. (we want something from them, while not doing anything is an attractive for them)
As for the rest, I'm still not sure where you're going with the whole pollution angle. So they have a lot of pollution, so what? How does that help us?
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Abdul Taha
"you fascist always have to bring Islam into this smh"
I mentioned Islamists because of their attempts to make blasphemy of Islam, the Koran and Mohammed an offense, similar to holocaust denial (which I am also opposed to). It is relevant to the video here, so I don't see your problem.
As for your scenarios, I'm not sure if that was directed at me, since I already acknowledged that the USA has limited free speech. But I also pointed that there is a difference between the concept of free speech, and how it is interpreted by US law. When someone says that free speech has limits, because it has limits in the USA, they're using the latter as a straw man.
I also pointed out that arguments like that are used only to advocate more curbing of free speech. A hypothetical scenario, that might only have happened very rarely in every day life, is used as a rhetorical trick to get a foot into the door to make people agreeable to curbing their free speech in other areas.
Interestingly enough, as an aside, I do believe that someone who "falsely shouts fire in a crowded theater" is currently protected under the first amendment.
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Abdul Taha
I don't know where the comment went I replied too, but it was this part I was referring too:
_"I doubt these countries have Islamic law applicable in their jurisdictions
Insult the holocaust PRISON
Insult Muhammad FREE SPEECH
The stench of hypocrisy is overwhelming me"_
This is how I read your comment: By saying this is hypocrisy, you are suggesting that either holocaust denial should not warrant prison, or that insulting Muhammad should.
And basically, what I wanted to point out is that if you mean the latter, then you're using the former as a gateway to justify the latter.
You might do so unknowingly, and I don't blame you for that, just that this is why I am against laws curbing free speech, how reasonable they may seem. (especially if they deal with hypothetical situations)
And in that regard I agree with the very first comment, that as soon as you start accepting limitations to free speech, people will use those limitations to advocate more limitations that include speech they don't like. And eventually we might end up in a society where speech is heavily regulated.
Personally, I'd rather accept then that rare instance where someone shouts fire in a crowded theater.
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JZBaltazar "There is a big difference in numbers - thousands a year may reach Australia (pop 22 million) on boats. A million or so a year may come to Europe"
If you look at it on a by country basis, maybe ten-thousand people are coming to my country this year. And we don't have to place all of them off-shore, just as many as possible. Clumping them together for the whole of Europe in one big number just makes it seem unmanageable.
And, as I pointed already, I was talking about Australia's upcoming deal with the Philippines, not that policy with detention centers they have. That deal might still fall through, or not, but it's the idea behind it that we should copy.
The MAGHREB countries and countries in the Middle East, especially Turkey, are much better suited to house these people in a cost-effective manner.
With Arabic countries, the additional benefit is that the children stay in an Arab speaking environment, they don't need to learn a new language and risk being behind in language development when they eventually go back to their home country.
And of course, we shouldn't rely on one policy. I think this should be handled with a holistic approach. Other measures European countries can take that will make Europe less appealing are things like, reduce benefits, make it impossible for asylum to lead to citizenship, and rigorously fence off the border.
Once it becomes clear to them that they can't just walk into Europe, go to any country of their choosing and be sure of citizenship for themselves and their children down the line, I expect the numbers will drop. If this was our policy to begin with, I think it would never have gone out of hand the way it has.
On top of this, I think Europe should end it's anti-Assad stance and aid him in restoring order. If Russia backs him, then he isn't going to go away and we might as well accept that.
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@raslalique You say I should "do some reading" on this case, but I actually watched the trial back when it happened. I know the prosecution brought up that she did all her training. With your phrasing that this was "alleged and proved" you make it sound as though this was originally contested by and also an unfavorable fact for her defense, but this is not true. Just imagine if she had done the reverse, that she had in fact skimped on this training, then that would've been put forward as detrimental by the prosecution, and then talk of negligence (to a criminal degree) could be appropriate.
Then you say she "ignored some of what was taught". Could you be specific here? What did she know about and then consciously ignore? And all your talk of her not showing remorse and not aiding Dante Wright, these thing are not relevant for a verdict, only for the sentencing. You suggest my view is colored by this, but I don't care if she feels sorry or not because I don't think she's guilty. And just fyi, the judge did make clear that she believes Kim Potter is remorseful then and now, which is one of the reasons she got a relatively low sentence.
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First of, they held an unscheduled "emergency hearing" for this because supposedly new information had come to light, but these depositions were already taken well before hand. When Pete Aguilar, a member of the January 6th commission was asked by Ari Melber of MSNBC what the new information was that necessitated this impromptu hearing, he simply did not have a clear answer for it. So to me it looks like this was just a media stunt to regrab the newspapers' headlines.
Secondly, this story about a Trump order to not check for weapons at his rally weasels in the assumption that this was to facilitate a government coup later, but that is just their opinion, not corroborated by any evidence. Also it ignores that in the US barring people with weapons at a rally could be a politically sensitive issue for a pro-gun Republican or he might just wanted to have an as big a crowd as he could possibly have, and also, even if we assume the goal was to have an armed mob, where were these guns and semi automatic rifles during the riot in and around Capitol Hill? So the idea of having an armed militia is just not supported by the events that unfolded.
Furthermore, she also testified that Trump tried to forcefully gain control of his motor vehicle from a member of the Secret Service, to get back to the protest, but this member in question has made a statement now that this did not happen. This undermines her credibility, so why did this commission, that talks about doing their due diligence, not depose him and get this out of the way before bringing in her testimony?
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@yvonne2965 I didn't blame him for the entire thing, even though he might be. After all, he was one of the Democrat senators that voted for this war and he was also vice president for 8 years during this period. I think he also oversaw the withdrawal from Iraq, which went very similar to this with Iraqi troops en mass surrendering to ISIS.
"Biden threw himself into the mission. He chaired meetings and oversaw negotiations. By the end of 2011, the war was over, and the American troops had left. “He is the guy who oversaw the drawdown, in effect, on the political side, of U.S. forces from 150,000 to virtually zero,” Blinken told me.
Then it all went horribly wrong.
The departure of U.S. troops created a vacuum. The Iraqi government and security forces rotted under an authoritarian and sectarian prime minister. Al-Qaeda, still alive, morphed into ISIS, and seized 40 percent of Iraq in the summer of 2014. ". source: 'Joe Biden’s Haunted Legacy in Iraq', The Atlantic, Jun 27, 2019
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