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Comments by "remliqa" (@remliqa) on "Hydrogen Fuel Cell Cars Aren't The Dumbest Thing. But... | Answers With Joe" video.
Should I be embarrassed to say that skit early on actually turned me on?
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@walkinondamoon1 Sound too little, too late to compete with BEV in the consumer market at that point . BY 2030 BEV would have cemented its position with thousand of quick charging station , countless more model to choose from and literally million of charging station for home chargers.
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@Bryan-Hensley The other thing that you also need to take into account is the environmental impact of burning diesel vs HFC and that includes all the complete production/distribution for both types of fuels (Diesel and hydrogen respectively). I think that would be a greater impetus to switch rather than energy conversion efficiency.
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The only utility I see for HFC is for "industrial"/utility type vehicle such as buses and truck and electric aircrafts as the weight , range and the speed of refueling is more important for them . Weight for example affect how much cargo a truck can carry and obviously aircrafts .For consumer type vehicles I think BEV will completely dominates.
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@walkinondamoon1 As I pointed in my earlier comment: HFCEV doesn't really makes sense for consumer vehicle . Sure you probably have trucks and airplanes them uses them but they really can't compete against BEV for consumer vehicles (cars, bikes etc).
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@walkinondamoon1 While I can't be sure about planes ( more logical for Hydrogen than battery based on their respective weights ), I would disagree with you on your second point. As adoption of BEV grew so too will be the rapid charging networks . I wouldn't be surprised if many of the parking space for flats /apartment would be retrofitted to at least accommodate regular charging speed (which would be a lot simpler than getting them to fast charge standards) at home. No matter how much hydrogen price fell it could never compete with electricity purely because how costly and inefficient the hydrogen fuel cycle is . The only advantage at that point (circa year 2030) would be the extended range and fast refueling of HFC, the former may not be that much of an advantage based on how much the range BEV is already adding all these years.
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@walkinondamoon1 Oh, BTW I would add that even if you add the power cost of building those batteries BEV still have a much higher efficiency rating than HFCBEV. Much like how BEV (and HFCEV) have less environmental impact than ICE despite having much higher upfront ecological cost upon construction.
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@Bryan-Hensley I think the quoted efficiency rating here in this video is based on electricity used, not based on energy density of the fuel ,which I believe your figure is from.
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Should I be embarrassed to say that skit early on actually turned me on?
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