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Comments by "Jack Haveman" (@JackHaveman52) on "The Babylon Bee Satirizes the Absurdities of American Politics. Snopes Doesn't Seem to Get the Joke." video.
@ramiere1412 Then all Snopes has to say is that this is a site dedicated to satire. It's supposed to be comedic. It's how humour has worked forever. If I say that "I'm so hungry I could eat a horse", that shouldn't be up for a fact check. It's a simple joke but one doesn't infer dishonesty when the joke becomes a little more sophisticated. If people start using it as a reference to facts, all one has to do is to point out that this is comedic. I'm going to say that these fact checks are put in place to prevent people from accessing satire sites because they don't like the implication of the humour being used. "Don't make fun of my beliefs". They do the same to people who call themselves comedians. Comedians don't like doing universities anymore because those, who become offended at jokes, have become violent at times. "Speech is violence" is the mantra. They're attacking humour because humour and satire has always been a way to pick away at sacred beliefs. The religious call it blasphemy. The political left calls it "misinformation", their word for blasphemy.
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@ramiere1412 I'm not implying that they're "attacking satire". I'm saying that they're attacking the ideas that might lie behind the satire. They're doing it by labelling the satire as false information, instead of saying that this is satire or humour and should be viewed as such. Eliminate the satire that would poke fun at ideas, you're eliminating the possibility that the reader or consumer might be swayed by that satire. It's a very subtle attempt at influencing how a person might interpret the satire. If they laugh at it, maybe they'll laugh at the ideas that the satire is directed at. If you're worried that someone will believe the satire as fact, just point out that this is meant to be comedic. Don't smear it as a lie or disinformation. THAT'S my issue. Fact checking a joke is ridiculous. Only an ideologue would do that, like a religious or political fundamentalist. It would derail every conversation that I've ever had with friends over a few beers. The only reason they feel the need to fact check is due to the implications of the satire presented challenges their own belief system. It really has nothing to do with people believing the joke itself. It has everything to do with how people might perceive that facts behind the satire.
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