Comments by "Jack Haveman" (@JackHaveman52) on "Fox Business" channel.

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  7.  @dejuanrobert  You've just put on display EXACTLY why Trump has been doing so well. You're full of hate. You can't even mention his name without losing control of all emotion and going into a vitriolic tirade against him and anyone associated with him. The left and Democrats are always the ones going on about hate and "isms" but, in the end, they're just as much the haters, maybe more, than anyone else. Ask about the US ecomomy? People like you will go negative and then call Trump names. Ask about N. Korea and nuclear testing. More negativity, even though the testing has stopped (WOW) and then some more calling Trump names. This is the pattern, no matter the topic. You can't accept that things are going well in the US because you're hatred clouds everything you see and hear. LIke Bill Maher who wanted to see a recession just so Trump wouldn't be re-elected. It didn't matter to him that it meant the loss of jobs for millions of ordinary blue collar Americans so long as his hate was vented and the object of his hate defeated. Just once, I'd like to hear one of you Trump haters admit that, in spite of your dislike of Trump as a person, you approve of the fact that he halted the testing by North Korea, for the last 2 years. I knew that Trump was going to win when she turned her nose up and called his supporters a basket of deplorables. The smelling "Walmart" crowds that live in "flyover America". It's that disdain and hatred for ordinary people, and the president that has helped them, that will win him the next election and the Democrats are too filled with their own venom to get it. You're exactly that type of Democrat. You've already shown you disdain for Trump and billionaires. I'm sure you feel the same for his supporters, as well.....and you wonder why this is turning off so many American voters.
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  37.  @PeacockPoverty  As a person I find Trump a very unlikable guy. However, that's not the point, at all. If fences or barriers have been an integral part of border security, then an even better barrier should be more effective. He made a promise of building an effective wall between the two countries that would stem the number of future illegal immigrants. He's doing everything he can to keep that promise and he's being opposed, tooth and nail, by the Democrats, not because it's a bad idea, but because they don't like the idea of him keeping a big election promise. Also, the idea that he was going to get the Mexicans to pay for that wall was just election rhetoric and no one took him seriously...at least non of his supporters did. They knew it was just tongue in cheek election banter of a windbag. It's like promising my wife a new car and saying that YOU, PeacockPoverty, was going to pay for it. She'd know that it was nonsense but she'd still expect that car. The point is this. Would an 15 foot high wall be more effective than the fence that is in place now? Having grown up on a farm and climbed over fences most of my life, I know for a fact that it is. Not even a maybe about it. The only problem that the Democrats have with it is that it's Trump's election promise. Nothing else. It's why they call the wall immoral, even though they supported a barrier 5 years ago. It's why Pelosi wouldn't meet with the "Angel Moms". That would be an admission that there were criminal elements crossing the wall, as well. It's why Democrats are tacitly supporting sanctuary cities, something that the Obama government would NEVER have accepted 5 years ago. It's all about derailing Trump. It's never been about what's right or effective. They're determined that Trump cannot succeed in the one thing that is obviously concrete and real. His other programs, like the initiative to set up opportunity zones or to help women succeed in business in 3rd world countries are abstract and can be ignored. A wall can be pointed at and its existence could not be denied. That's why they oppose it. A concrete reminder that Trump came good on a promise cannot be allowed....EVER.
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  38.  @PeacockPoverty  Trump has already allowed that there are areas which won't need the fence due to natural barriers. He's not even trying for a complete wall from sea to sea. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jul/13/mexico-border-wall-trump-plan-wont-need-full-border Hurd is the only Republican, on the border, that has opposed a cross country wall and Trump has already agreed that it's impractical to do it. However, Hurd is still strong on border security but some of the land owners don't want their land appropriated to build a wall and he supports that. However, if a lot of his district is impassable due to terrain, it would also appear that these landowners don't have the hundreds of migrants crossing their land all the time. The natural barrier is stopping them so their argument makes sense, especially since they're the ones that would give up the land to put the unnecessary part of the wall up. Also, Ted Cruz does support the wall. He said so many times in this interview on Fox. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOEQjQMyOBA Build that wall. He said it more than once. Trump has agreed to a limited wall, wants other security measures, more border patrol agents and more judges to process those that seek asylum. Everything that you've just wrote in your comment....yet you still oppose it. Saying that they oppose the wall because they don't like Trump isn't ridiculous spin, either. I know that for the simple reason that the MAGA hats, the ones carrying the Trump election slogan, will set people off in a rage. A bunch of Catholic kids wearing them, invoked the rage of a bunch of Black Israelites and then the nation and that story was spun viciously out of control. Why? It's those hats and their link to Trump. People have even admitted it to be true. When Whoopi Goldberg asked why they would fall prey to these types of stories, Joy Behar replied "because we're so desperate to get rid of Trump".....and she's right. The Democrats, especially the MSM, has been spinning so many stories in an effort to denigrate Trump, that some people aren't trusting them anymore and their ratings have been falling. Democrat opposition to Trump has become a series of knee jerk reactions. I don't see why the wall issue would be any different.
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  44.  @PeacockPoverty  You've just proved my point again. How is a fence, designed to keep out "brown people" not racist, but a wall, designed to keep out "brown people" is racist? How is a border agent, who's job it is to keep out "brown people" not racist but a wall, designed to do the same thing, is racist? What is the distinguishing factor here? Answer that question without once bringing up Trump's name or any allusion to his existence. Try that for once. As for that assertion that the KKK is now cool again, even the SPLC says that it has been in a steady decline. Richard Spencer is hardly to be found on a google search except for year old news and for the fact that he's now in trouble for domestic abuse. Spencer first supported Trump but once again, the SPLC and said that his white nationalist movement is dissatisfied with Trump's presidency. He no longer supports Trump because he's decided that Trump doesn't follow his white supremacy ideals at all. As for your claim about the horror Trump has wreaked on "brown" children, the facts show differently. Those famous pictures that showed children sleeping in cages, were taken in 2014, during Obama's administration. https://qz.com/1291470/photos-immigrant-children-detained-at-the-placement-center-in-2014/ https://www.apnews.com/a98f26f7c9424b44b7fa927ea1acd4d4 Trump was still running a reality TV show back then. In fact, Trump signed an executive order stopping the separation of families last June. https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/20/politics/trump-separation-action-immigration/index.html This is from CNN, a news network that makes no secret of their hatred of Donald Trump. These are facts and easily verifiable. In fact, your entire tirade really doesn't prove that a wall is racist. Make that argument that the wall is racist without any references to Trump. If a wall is racist, that fact should stand on its own and there should be no need to invoke his name. To make this argument even more ridiculous, I don't like Trump, either. He's a loud mouthed blowhard, given to bouts of boasting and exaggerations to the point of full out BS. However, that has nothing to do with the wall or the facts. As a matter of fact, I think the distortion of facts around Trump might be a major factor in his being re-elected. The Democrats under estimated him and then alienated the entire centre of the country by calling them deplorables who lived in the "fly over" centre of America. That was a grave mistake and they'd better learn from it or they will lose again.
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  45.  @PeacockPoverty  There are only 2 known sightings in the US of jaguars and one was shot last year. Not a big issue as yet. As for the ocelots, that may have an impact although most of the ocelots in Texas are in the Laguna Atascosa National Wildlife Refuge on the coast and are too far away to migrate to Mexico. There are other pockets along the border and you're right about those. As for the butterflies, they have a unique capability. They know how to fly. I'm thousands of miles from Mexico and the Monarch is common around here and has to migrate to all the way to Mexico. Apparently they can do it and they have to cross the Mississippi River. It's miles across. A wall would appear to be a puny deterrent to that. But yes, it would impact some wildlife. How much is hard to say. It's one of those cost benefits analysis that must be made. However, the growth of major cities has had a much greater impact on wildlife that any wall could ever have. Phoenix, Houston, Dallas, San Antonio, just to name a few, and all the suburban areas involved have disrupted wildlife habitat exponentially more than a wall would. The diversion of water to California from the Colorado has had a major impact on the environment along that river. Most of the illegal immigrants are going to California, so more water will be needed to supply them. So it takes from one to add to another. Nothing that we do as modern humans doesn't have its cost. Emptying Lake Mead to supply a growing California, partially due to added illegals, is a very high cost as well. A decent consideration but not a deal breaker. Especially when you include the word "could". "Could" isn't a word used to describe a definitive problem.
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  46.  @PeacockPoverty  What a wild-eyed crazed rant that was. You didn't actually read a thing I wrote and neither did you even bother to read the references I gave. You just blathered the same nonsense you did before even though I proved to you that you were wrong. This "fence good" "wall bad" argument is pure nonsense, nothing else. I've given you all kinds of opportunities to offer up a cogent and logical case but all I've seen are head exploding angry rhetoric and repetition. If you're any indication of what is the best that the Democrats can offer up as a platform, they're screwed. You'll have Trump till 2024. By the way, I'm not even American. I'm Canadian so Trump is NOT my master. As a matter he's screwed us in the NAFTA deal, although I attribute a good part of the blame to that to Trudeau, the nut who negotiates with a gender's studies adviser. I wanted to see if I could get a reasonable reason why a wall shouldn't be built and all I got was a rant about a wall being a symbol of racism and a lot of nothing. You've done a lot to convince me that us Canadians are going to be stuck negotiating with Trump for the next 6 years instead of 2. Another thing....my sister was deported from the US and she's a red headed, blue eyed white woman. She jumped the fence into the US because she has a criminal record. You see, the US will not allow the most blond haired, blue eyed, MAGA hat wearing, white Canadian into the US, if they have DUI conviction. That's because it has nothing to do with race....but you're to crazed with anger to be able to digest any information anyway. Good luck, you lunatic. You're going to need it with Trump as your master for the next 6 years.
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