Comments by "Jack Haveman" (@JackHaveman52) on "The Sun" channel.

@bpavilion8994 Maybe this woman was just driving down the street and inadvertently happened upon a protest. The protesters approach her, start beating on her car and making all kinds of threatening gestures and she panics. The news is filled with videos of drivers being assaulted and even shot by "peaceful" protesters. Panic and fear may well be a normal response for these circumstances. My question is this. Why do these protesters find it necessary to approach this car and try to stop her progress? Part of garnering respect for your cause is to respect the rights and position of others. Those protesters had no right to get in that driver's face. They don't know her or what her ideals are.
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@bpavilion8994 First, you're assuming that you know what she's thinking. She may go this route everyday and just happened upon this crowd not knowing who or what they were doing. While driving, things happen quickly. Also, why wouldn't they just allow her to pass? Why stand directly in front of her car so she has to stop? Why approach her from the side and begin to pound on the car and yell things at her. It's a road and it's built for cars to use. She has a right to use it. That's the problem with a lot of protests. They believe that their cause supersedes all other agendas and it gives them the right to treat people any way that they wish. Also, what idiot would stop for someone who's forcibly trying to make you stop? I wouldn't stop. It's a good way to get yourself killed, be the victim of a carjacking or kidnapping and possible rape or suffer a beating. People that are trying to stop your car, forcibly, don't have your best interests at heart, especially if your a woman. Only an idiot would feel perfectly safe when approached by a mob. Also, it's telling they don't show how the confrontation started. We have no idea how long that car was surrounded or what was being said to her. It's a clip taken out of context.
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An austere Muslim scholar.
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@alilover9020 So what? This speech was so moving. It showed what was happening in Israel at that time and it was heart breaking. That people were cheering the slaughter on, as it was happening, makes me sick to my stomach and all that seems to affect you is that you think that he's full of himself. Get over yourself. You're not much different than what you're accusing Murray of being.
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@youtriggeredbtch7845 Not yet. Are you seriously saying that one should wait until you're hurt, when you're being stopped by a mob, before you leave? They're surrounding her car, yelling at her, stopping from letting her go anywhere and she should sit there and take it and hope that they don't attack her. Smash out her window or drag her out of her car....is THAT when she should get out. I'll bet that's what you'd do...right? Sit there calmly and think, "They're nice people. Pay no attention to the threats, to the person banging on my car, the one standing in front, trying to stop me from leaving. They actually like me. You're one naive person is you think like that. I make it a rule of thumb. If a car is approaching, I don't stand in front of it. It's bigger than I am and I'm not going to get into shoving match with it. These BLM protesters think that they can do whatever they want and when someone objects, they outraged. Don't stand in front of a moving car and don't look down the barrel of a gun.
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Modern Caveman I want people to see the other side of the story. If we let them take over the platform, it's all people will hear. I want them to hear a different perspective. I, especially, want them to consider what might happen if they're caught in this situation and they decide to sit there and let them intimidate you and possibly do a lot worse. Drivers have been shot, dragged from their cars and beaten and have had extensive damage done to their vehicles. I'm hoping that people won't be so naive as to think that these people have their best interests at heart. I don't care who you are, what beliefs you have. If you surround my car, threaten me, bang their fists on my vehicle and stand in front of me.....I'm leaving. I'm not going to wait until they lose a nut. Mob mentality is unpredictable. I'm not going to depend on that unpredictable tendency to save my life or safety.
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@bpavilion8994 A picture. One picture doesn't always tell you everything that you need to know. To conclude that she expressly went there to run people over, in a short video and a picture, isn't exactly great forensic science. You're concluding intent on very little evidence. In fact, you're asserting intent based on an outcome. Any judge that would conclude guilt, on what little evidence that you've given, should be disbarred. There hasn't even a solid defence given, especially since you still haven't answered why these "protester" surrounded her car and impeded her right of way on a public street. The Constitution does not allow for unlawful detainment. The protesters had no lawful reason to detain her or to even stop her, especially in the forcible manner in which they were doing it. Being a protester does NOT give you the right to stop or harass anyone...EVER. Also, would you say the same thing if it was the Proud Boys who were surrounding her car, impeding her progress and threatening violence?
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@adamaccountname That painter from Austria, told the Mufti of Jerusalem that when he had completed his work on the Jewish problem in Europe, he would help the Mufti with his Jewish problem in Jerusalem and surrounding area. The painter then said, after the Mufti went home, that he wished the Germans were Muslim instead of Christian, citing the ideas of turning the other cheek and loving your neighbour as weak and harming the people of Germany. He said that the warrior religion of Islam would be a much better fit for Germany.
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