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@whumanbard He was just telling us what his grandfather and others had told him. What's wrong with that? There are all kinds of stories surrounding past events and we should learn them all. I'm NOT supporting the Klan, either. I'm just saying that we all have a right to tell our own life experiences. We may not like what he's saying but that doesn't change his impressions or even the truth of the circumstances surrounding his family and the Klan. It's just ONE story. It doesn't justify the violence that the Klan perpetrated while trying to support the Democratic party. It doesn't even justify the existence of the Klan. Quit with the emotional reactions and grow up.
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@bruceconstuble4603 Then fill us in. Saying that it isn't true means nothing to me.
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@RealSteelStreet Atta boy. Imply that the guy's lying and if he's not lying that he must have been up to no good, maybe even a crook and that he somehow deserved it. I'd bet you wouldn't say that about a black man being pulled over or maybe you would. You do seem the type to make general assumptions about people that you've never met.
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@RealSteelStreet Do you not understand the words "insinuation" or "implied". That's the words that I used. You used language that "implied" it. It's language manipulation.
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@RealSteelStreet My objection has NOTHING to do with the police. It has to do with the way you smeared the guy as a liar and a possible crook. That doesn't mean that the police were doing a bad job or that either one of us is implying that. He's just telling us what happened to him. It almost sounds as if you're using your assumptions due to your own history and a sort of self congratulations on how you turned it around. It's good that you did but don't put your own errant adolescent behaviour on others. We're NOT all the same. I haven't been to Alabama in years, so I'm not going to comment on everyday life there. I will leave that to you and others, like the guy that you assumed was a liar. What I can say is that your anecdotes are no better or worst than his. And please....quit patting yourself on the back.
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@diegaspumper8501 He started it and I was just dishing back to him what he started at. I wouldn't have even responded if he hadn't implied that they guy was a liar. If he thinks that anecdotes are lies, then so are his anecdotes. Don't dish it out if you can't take it.
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@RealSteelStreet "🤔 Who ever said that specific guy was out late at night?! " YOU did. "the average citizen isn’t out in a neighborhood in the middle of the night unless they’re up to no good" That's your very first comment. Which goes to show you that you're playing stupid word games. Good bye.
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@georgeboehringer5530 Simmons resurrected the Klan and introduced the burning cross which the Klan had never used before. I can't see any good in resurrecting an organisation that used violence and intimidation to suppress votes in the south or who were in favour of racial and ethnic apartheid. Same as the Freemasons. I don't see how that this changes anything about the Freemasons. I'd bet that those Freemasons also voted Democrat and didn't like the influence that the Republican party had over black Americans. It changes nothing about the Klan.
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