Comments by "Jack Haveman" (@JackHaveman52) on "World History" channel.

You've seen the pictures of the emaciated, starving inmates at these concentration camps. Anyone that would do that to anything, let alone humans, is a monster. You don't even need the stories. Those pictures and film clips say it all.
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@iamahorsenut7541 Yeah right. How about an uncle that was there and told us about it. Sent from Westerbork to Bergen Belson and then sent back home because he wasn't a Jew and it was all a mistake. Then he spent the rest of the war at POW camp in the Frisian Islands. And then my dad, his brothers and my grandfather, burying food so the Germans couldn't take it. I've heard all them stories. There's a reason that the Dutch STILL celebrate liberation day with passion. They went through hell and I've heard all their stories. I was born shortly after the war and there's no way they all consistently "lied" about what happened. You're rationalising and it's pathetic.
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@myDickbiG I doubt that they were ordered to kill those guards. They did it out anger and disgust at what those guards had done and it came from within. If you didn't want to kill them, you didn't.
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@woodenseagull1899 Cruelty isn't base on scale. When Mayans brutally killed humans is sacrifices to their gods, it was still just as brutal for the individuals dispatched. Was it in their genes to do this? Same as the Hutu, who killed Tutsi, by the tens of thousands. It's still brutal and different only in scale. Being effective in your genocidal fervour doesn't render you more brutal and most definitely has nothing to do with a genetic predisposition to commit such acts. As a matter of fact, that attitude is what generates the rationalisation to clear the conscience of those who take part in identity based murders. Better get those Germans before they get us.
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@russellishihara8390 So it's irrational to take into account the thousands of pictures and videos of what happened? The accounts of thousands of people that were there? The hundreds of books written about the war?? Irrational to believe the people, in my own family, my mom, dad, uncles, older cousins, grandmother and family friends, who have their own accounts of their war experiences? They ALL lied to me?? That must have been quite the meeting when that all decided to lie to that dumb little kid "Jack" about the war. Funny thing is....not ONE person that was there told a different story. Remember, I was born right after the war. I knew LOTS of people that lived through it. I'll believe them long before I'd believe some random guy on the internet that I've never met and who may have his own agenda and ideology to propagate.
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@myDickbiG Gotcha. Sorry about that.
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@bennyandersen742 "Jesus said, “My kingdom is not of this world." John 18:36 This is why. According to scripture, the world is the domain of man and Satan. This was a human choice made when Adam and Eve broke the only rule that God set for them. We made our beds and now we have to sleep in them. However, again according to scripture, there is redemption offered which will be realised in God's Kingdom. That offer is open to each of us and all we have to do is accept it. You wanted to know the answer and it's there for all of us. I'm not saying that God exists. How could I know that? What I'm saying is that you're making a theological argument about an ideology when you know nothing about it. Your ideas on God and religion are irrelevant if they're anchored on personal feelings and not the facts of the religion that you're referring to.
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@bennyandersen742 Talk about completely misunderstanding what I said. I never said it was your fault. I was making the implication that the story of Adam and Eve was relayed to show the human condition. That we're predisposed to making the wrong decision, even when given only one wrong decision to make, something as innocuous and simple to do as not eat from one specific tree. That's all they had to do and they screwed it up. That story reflects on all of us, unless you're that unique individual that has NEVER screwed up in their lifetime. The fact that God knows the future doesn't take away from that fact. If given the chance to make a mistake, we will do it and the evidence of that is all around us...except the perfect YOU......of course.
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@bennyandersen742 Maybe I'll have to be simpler in my presentation. I even stated that it doesn't mean that God exists. I said, and I thought it was quite clear, that it was a story of the human condition. A narrative to help to explain human nature. Our ancestors were not a bunch of dumb, superstitious clods. They were trying to explain their own behaviour through narratives, as metaphors to life. Even the concept of a supreme being is a metaphor to truth and perfection, one to aspire to. Read my last comment again. I said that Adam reflects the human nature that is in all of us. That inexorable nature to get things wrong even, as in Adam's case, when he had only ONE thing that he was forbidden. If he couldn't do that one thing, how are we ever going to do it with all the things that can go wrong in our lives. That's the lesson of Adam and Eve. They're us. That's what that story is trying to tell us. We should aspire to seek truth and perfection but understanding that it's an impossibility to achieve. When one believes that those attributes have been achieved, that person will feel that they have achieved superiority, which includes all the horrors that go along with the need to impose that superiority on others. Religious people do it all the time, as do academics and politicians and it can be socially devastating.
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@bennyandersen742 Of course things happen that we can do little about. A guy could walk into my home, and shoot me dead. I'd be powerless to stop that. However, I also have choices that I can make and I do everyday. I choose to go to work. I don't have to. I may suffer the consequences of that choice but it's still my choice. That's the forbidden fruit. I'll enjoy lazing in my back yard for a time but I will have to face what happens some day. This is the contradictions of free will. Wisdom comes from knowing we can control and what we can't. Adam and Eve had the ability to choose whether to eat of the apple or not. Once the choice was made to eat, they were at a loss to know what to do next. They learned that there were consequences to their choices....the knowledge of good and evil, so to speak. Know when you're in control and how to use that to your advantage. Don't be trying to change what you can't. You'll waste your time.
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@bennyandersen742 I made a choice, as a teenager, not to do my school work and I quit before I graduated. No sociocultural, physical or psychological conditions forced me to do it. I wanted to have fun. My brother, 2 years younger, was the opposite. We both made choices. Later, I realised that having fun was good but I wanted more. I quit drinking, took on another part time job, finished highschool and went to college. Part way through college, I changed courses because I decided I didn't wasn't as interested in that field as I though. I made a different choice. I worked extremely hard, at times only getting 3 or 4 hours of sleep a day. I didn't have to. I CHOSE to. Those choices were rewarded. I could have stayed as I was but I chose not to. I chose not to take that easy route, thinking that there were no options, that I had no control of my destiny. That's a self fulfilling attitude and will get you exactly what life doles out to you. In other words, I didn't wait to see what life had in store for me. I made it happen.
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@bennyandersen742 I realise that there are forces that work to form a pattern of life. Almost all the people that I was hanging out with, when I was young, are still doing what they were doing back then. Why did I choose not to continue that pattern? There are lots of reasons. Do you think that I wasn't tempted to take a night off from work and go partying with my friends? Lots of times...but I chose not to. When a buddy called and said that they were going to go camping for the weekend, it would have a great to go but I said no. I was in the same place in life as they were, at one time, but I chose to leave it behind. I still had to do the things that would change my life. I wanted to travel and so did my friends but NONE of them have gone anywhere because they didn't change their lifestyle. That was their decision. Just like I didn't want to become an accountant and changed to a civil engineering course. I could have stuck with what I started with but I chose not to. Now all those original classmates are somewhere in the financial world and I worked in construction and worked outdoors. I knew that I liked the outdoors but had I not chose to change my field, I'd have worked in finance for 30 years. Choice is still an important aspect of our lives. If it wasn't, I'd still be sitting at home waiting for life to happen, swilling beer, instead of making life work for me, as best as I possibly could.
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