Comments by "Jack Haveman" (@JackHaveman52) on "History Debunked" channel.

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  2.  @makeytgreatagain6256  Do I have to show you the definition of "chattel" AGAIN. Here you go. I'll make it as it pertain to slavery. From the Merriam-Webster dictionary: an enslaved person held as the legal property of another. If you SELL someone, as a slave, they're chattel. It's what the word means. There's NO such thing as NICE slavery. You're either a slave or you're NOT as slave, free to leave or FORCED to stay. When Bulgarians sold Slavic captives to the Turks, they were chattel. The Turks, in turn, sold them all over the Middle East...as chattel. It wasn't nice. It wasn't friendly and NOT ONE SLAV went willingly. Slavery was legal, in some Middle Eastern countries till very recently. In fact, the slave trade was held quite open in Constantinople until 1908. It was then that the trade of Zanj women, who came from the coast of Eastern Africa, and the Circassian women, from north of the Caucasus, was abolished. These women were forced to travel thousands of miles to be sold. Oman abolished slavery in 1970. In MY lifetime. I remember it being in the news. Slavery in Saudi Arabia and Yemen was abolished in 1962, due to pressure from the British government. Not "nice" slavery, either. REAL slavery. In China, it was finally abolished in 1910 after thousands of years of legality. You think that somehow being FORCED to work in the salt mines of Mali was much better than picking cotton in Alabama. Both were awful. While I think that slavery is appalling no matter where it is, YOU seem to think only certain types of slavery should be demonised. If you're held against your will, forced to labour with no pay or used for sex against your will....YOU are a slave. It doesn't matter if you're the only one in town or if there are hundreds of slaves there, it's appalling when the state or ruling class allows it under the law and that has happened all over the world for thousands of years. You want to use the slave trade, of the past, as a rationalisation for your hatred. I want to use that history to show that we're ALL human, given to the excesses that is a part of all humanity. Also, my family originated in Poland. We weren't known for engaging in the trans-Atlantic slave trade although we were likely to trade our fellow citizens to the Turks and other middle easterners. A terrible time in our past but there it is. It was a terrible time in human history....unless you find it important to hate certain demographics. Then we'll just keep pointing fingers at one another till we finally destroy each other.
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