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Comments by "Jack Haveman" (@JackHaveman52) on "A Guy I Know's Son Ended His Own Life Over COVID Isolation, Quarantine Is COSTING Lives" video.
@dereksbooks 2 months, for a 12 year old, is an extremely long time. Ground them for a weekend and they'll act as if their life is ruined. Their concept of time is different than that of an adult. Also, 12 year olds are entering into a new phase of their life that many find very difficult and they start to depend more on their friends to help them navigate their way through this new time of life. Take that away from them, suddenly, due to a disease, and it could tear them apart. Isolation isn't easy and it can seem insurmountable to an adolescent mind. It's no accident that calls to suicide help lines have increased 10 fold and more during this crisis. If the crisis has no effect, calls shouldn't go up and they are. This is creating a feeling of helplessness and fear for the future that is unprecedented in the lives of average people. Just because you can handle it doesn't mean that others are as able to get through it unscathed.
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@renaissancenovice7202 So easy to blame parents. Mental illness is not just a parenting issue. It's a complex problem and to just dismiss it with an offhand "failure to parent" remark is not only cold, but incredibly small minded. A really thoughtless response that gets to the heart of every parent that has lost a child to mental health, addiction and suicide.
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Sigma Nayo A lot of kids are missing their friends and don't like the isolation imposed by this virus. It's like house arrest to these kids. My grandson misses his friends but he's getting along just fine. My granddaughter is starting to burst into tears for no apparent reason. She says she knows that it makes no sense but she can't help it. To a 13 year old, 2 months is an eternity. When I was that age, I hated school but to be locked in my house would even be worse. It's one thing to voluntarily stay home but another to be forced to stay indoors and not associate with anyone but parents. Those prone to depression are really going to have a tough time of it. We must start to ease off on the restrictions or things are going to get really bad and NOT because of the virus.
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@dereksbooks Maybe YOU didn't entertain suicide but it's obvious some children do. Look up statistics for suicides for children and it happens. Also, I never said that there was going to be mass suicides for children but there is a very good chance that it will rise as this lockdown continues. Also, suicides among adults will also rise as they lose jobs and are forced to stay at home instead of going out to look for work. It's become a dystopian existence, hopefully temporary, and one that is perfect for depression and worse on an unprecedented scale. To look at some nations where they have to put nets around factories because the lives of those poor people are so bleak that they'd prefer to end it by jumping than to face another day. Also, we don't know what the mental state of this boy was at the time. There are many clinical mental issues that a lockdown could exacerbate to the point of suicide. I have to wonder about the media as well. Maybe we're not hearing about the suicides because the MSM doesn't want us to know how the lockdown is affecting people in a negative way. They have a way of not reporting what they don't want us to hear. In fact, when Dr. Phil said that this lockdown will have a negative effect on mental health, the media went after him viciously, as his only wish was to see people die from the virus. The only reason we're hearing about this one is because it's an acquaintance of Tim Pool.
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@renaissancenovice7202 It isn't just the broken monitor. It's the straw that broke the camel's back to use an old adage. It's the change of life, the need to be with those his own age, the feelings of isolation and loneliness that parents can no longer fulfil, the fear that this is never going to end and the unrealistic understanding of time that young people seem to have. Force that upon any teenager and it's not easy. Then his monitor breaks, his one lifeline to the outside world, to freedom and that could overwhelm someone. Like I said, it's no accident that suicide hotlines are seeing a HUGE spike in calls. It affects people differently and we're all not assembly line products, all born with identical personalities and vulnerabilities. We're individuals and we'll all react in our individual manner and sometimes it can be tragic. If this lockdown isn't psychologically damaging, then there shouldn't be a spike in the calls to the hotlines. You can talk all you want but you can't get around this basic fact.
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Sigma Nayo I believe in the right to bear arms and I also think that a normal, mentally stable person should stand up for himself and take individual responsibility for himself. But, I also know that people have mental issues. My grandfather was such a man and he never recovered from it. Life isn't just a black and white exercise. It's full of nuance....but the most telling thing of all is how you ignore the fact that suicide hotlines are busier now than they were 4 months ago. People react to stress differently and the longer this lockdown goes, the more we're going to see serious mental breakdowns and an increase in suicides and suicide attempts. This was a little boy. Not ONE of us knows his mental state, his parents, or what the dynamics of his home was. To make assumptions and then pass them off as facts is no better than gossip. I hate gossips....those busybodies that always know better and are so willing to throw everyone and anyone under the bus to satiate their own ego. For God's sake, show a little compassion for the situation and the hell his parents and family is going through instead of sitting in judgement.
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