Comments by "Emir" (@irongron) on "Силиконовый занавес"
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Colonel Ingram is a great guest, I always like to hear what he has to say, but I take issue with the comparison of "russia" breaking up making the former Yugoslavia look like a "Sunday school picnic", my father's Bosnian side were all ethnically cleansed from their home town of Bosanski Novi 35 years ago almost, and are now all over the world in Canada, the USA & Australia. They can never go back as Bosanski Novi is now in Republika Srpska and renamed "Novi Grad". No "Sunday School picnic" for them. The USSR had 40,000 nukes (yes, 40,000 google it) when it broke up in 1991 without any major wars like in Yugoslavia, so why is the break up of "russia" with a piddling 7,000 nukes a "huge worry" ? The world community dealt with that ok and here in Ukraine we do not consider the breakup of "russia" a huge worry, but a must or they will just keep doing the same 💩 they always do. Like the USSR, "russia" must go! No ifs or buts.
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I'm not Ukrainian but have been a permanent resident since just before the first war in 2014, and I can attest to what Mr Buzarov said about Donetsk City not being neglected or run down. In fact it seemed like a quite impressive modern city to me when I first moved here a decade ago almost. My wife lived in Makiivka, which is like a smaller satellite city that is more or less integrated into Donetsk City due to urban growth and even Makiivka was not that bad, mr wifes neighbourhood was probably one of the more run-down quarters of Makiivka and it was not horrible, the back roads had some potholes but the main road where her flat was, Bogdan Khmelnitsky street, was very good. That flat has been lost since 2014 in the so called DNR now. I bought a new flat to replace it in Pokrovsk a few years later and now we had to leave that one too, mostly because the University she works for moved to a a very safe part of NW Ukraine, whereas Pokrovsk is semi-dangerous to dangerous currently. the city we are in now in NW Ukraine has only been bombed twice in the time we've been here, (over a year) so I would call it almost-safe, I would rather live here than Chicago USA for instance!
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The well known (in Ukraine) journalist Dmitry Gordon conducted an extensive interview with Igor Girkin for 3 hours and in that interview he admits to the Crimea and Donbas operations. The Crimea operations with the little green men fooled no one, it was Russian soldiers already stationed in Sevastopol. The Donbas situation was always passed off as a "local uprising" which is complete and utter nonsense, for two reasons, I was there and witnessed it first hand as it unfolded (since when do local uprisings have heavy artillery?). I'm paraphrasing but it went something like this, starting with a cleverly worded question from Dmitri Gordon - Gordon: "In 2014 you illegally crossed over the border onto the territory of Ukraine in Donbas can you elaborate or discuss this further" Girkin: "Of course, I crossed over the border with 54 (or maybe 53, I forget, watched it 5 years ago) men, we had hardly any arms and ammunition...etc etc". Once he had done it and it could not be called off, the Kremlin went all in and send more men and they got heavy weapons, some of them appropriated from a local army base with sympathisers. If you want to watch this interview and you understand Russian (otherwise use auto-subs) look for this title on YouTube (there is a comprehensive index in about the 4th comment down) "Гиркин (Стрелков). Донбасс, MH17, Гаага, ФСБ, полудохлый Путин, Сурков, Божий суд. "ГОРДОН" (2020)" Interestingly, Girkin discusses his disdain for Putin and the kremlinite oligarchs/siloviki etc greedy corruption and for Denis Pushilin, the leader of the so-called DNR!
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This conversation with Inna is really important. On Russian state TV they call Ukrainian a "southern Russian dialect", that's complete and utter BS. My Ukrainian wife is an asscoaite professor of langauges. But let me give my own insight as a South slav (i.e. Jugoslav). Archeological digs have confirned, even back in Soviet times that the langauge of Kyivan Rus was closest to what is now called modern day Ukrainian, NOT Russian. This is via garffitti on the archelogical finds, but it's not spray paint that coms to mind, it's like scraped into the wood, if you have ever visited Saint Sofia church in Kyiv you can see this graffitti on the walls there if you look carefully. Secondly and very impoertant for me as a Jugoslav, there is actual eveidence in the south slavic langauges that Urkainain is the older langague because we have close similarities with both Russian and Ukrainain words, but if you go back far enough the Ukrainian words came into our laguages in the balkans first. This lends eveidence to the fact Ukrainian is the older tongue. NOT Russian, it came later, - like a cousin lamguage, but defenitely not the ancinet langauge Russians make it to be.
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At the start of the show Mr Terry mentions, the older people in the East who have spoken Russian all their lives and now they are trying to switch over to Ukrainian & speak a "hybrid" language. It has a name, "Surzhyk". When I first moved to Ukraine a decade ago, I settled in Donetska Oblast & everyone spoke Russian there, so I had no chance to learn Ukrainian, even though that was my preference (My ancestry is the former Yugoslavia, so I already know what used to be called Serbo-Croatian). Anyway, when my wife and I became IDP'S in 2022 and were forced to move to West Ukraine, I started to convert, but I spoke a mixture of both, called "Surzhyk", actually, it's more like a form of "Yugo-Surhyk", as sometimes I sub-consciously throw in a Yugoslav word, when lost for both. Also it's a pure co-incidence for me that the region I settled in, in Donetska Oblast used to be called "Pryazovia" (the Russians wiped out the term by contriving the "Donbas" construct - from DONetsky coal BASsien i.e. DONetsk coal BASin - to wipe out Ukrainian identity in the East) & there were lots of Balkan (i.e. former Yugoslav) people who settled there, so it felt like I belonged there too! Hopefully Jonathon will have Ukrainian Philosopher Volodymyr Yermolenko back on to discuss the problematic nature of the name " Donbas".
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Indeed, Hein was an excellent guest. I really liked the way John and Hein sounded like they were just "shooting the breeze", in a casual conversation. Definitely agree he must come back for another show later on. As I have aid many times, I've had to abandon my home in Donbas and my city (Pokrovsk) is not occupied yet and I'd like to see a victory where the Russians are driven out once and for all so my wife and I can go home.. I'm not Ukrainian, I've lived here for almost a decade, but I can say that most other Ukrainians feel the same way. If the lads want to keep fighting to save their families, then so be it. It's sad and scary but these Russians just won't F off and leave us alone. Crimea defintely has to be next, it sounds impossible but really it's eaiser than taking back the DNR and LNR, as they can be supllied directly over the border by Russia, If the Ukrianian army can cut off Crimea, re-supply will be very hard for Russia,, of course we'll have to hit the Kerch strait bridge again, or "re-visit" it as good ol' General Hodges puts it!
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With the nukes, I had to make this as a separate comment, because it is so important. Leonid Kravchuk, the first President of Ukraine, went to his grave regretting letting Bill Clinton and Bush Senior, tricking him into giving up the nukes. Also it is complete and utter nonsense that the "codes were all controlled from Moscow" and that keeping the nukes was useless.The soviet Union never implemented PAL's (i.e. Permissive Action Links, technology which the USA shared the the USSR), because it as too backwards and if communications was lost with Moscow, how could they launch the nukes ? The codes could be over-ridden, I remember an old ex-Soviet Ukrainian retired General stating this a decade ago at least, confirming this. So forget what other "russia adjacent" pundits et. al. tell you regarding this.
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Look, before I say this, I want to mention that I was at the event you held at Lyiv a bit over a year ago, and I met both you and Mr Sweeney and shook your hands. I love you both, you are true friends of Ukraine, but I have to push back on something. ,At 16:20, Mr Sweeney says that, "..under the Czars, until they lost the Crimean war, the vast population were not free, they were Serfs...Slav, if I think the etymology is correct, the base word for slave..." - this is complete and utter nonsense. There was even a National Geographic article that peddled this falsehood. It is more commonly agreed with scholars and academics that the word "Slav" came from the world "Slovo", i.e. people of the word. This is because the old slavic word for Germans is "nemtsi" (people who are dumb - unintelligible). In the former Yugoslavia where my ancestors came from the word for Germany is not "Germaniya" like it is in ruzzian, it is "Njemachka", derived from the eastern slavic Kyivan Rus word "nemtsi". When Kyivan Rus fell, my ancestors migrated to the Balkans, -these where the "Beli Horvati" tribe - ("White Croat" tribe). There was also a Red Croats tribe too (hence the red and white checkered flag pf Croatia). In Ukraine the word is also "Nimechchyna". RuZZia is not a good gauge of the historical etymology of our words!!!
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The next time Captain Hendrix is back on, I'd like to know what he thinks of Admiral James Foggo's assertion that it was a mistake (in hindsight) for the USN to reduce its presence in the Black Sea after the end of the Cold War & Soviet Union collapsed. Admiral Foggo has been saying that the USN "needs to get back in there" - of course it can't do that now due to the Montreux convention - but get back in there ASAP when the conditions permit. Even in late Soviet times, there was a lot of action in the Black Sea, I doubt anyone besides myself, the host and Captain Hendrix would be aware of the "Black Sea shouldering incident" in 1988, the hilarious thing is, if that happened now everyone would be screaming "OMG WW3 OMG ESCALATION", but back then it was not so hysterical. President Ronald Reagan's "peace through strength" in action, and it worked.
from Wikipedia "1988 Black Sea bumping incident"
"The Black Sea bumping incident of 12 February 1988 occurred when American cruiser USS Yorktown tried to exercise the right of innocent passage through Soviet territorial waters in the Black Sea during the Cold War. The cruiser was bumped by the Soviet frigate Bezzavetny with the intention of pushing Yorktown into international waters. This incident also involved the destroyer USS Caron, sailing in company with USS Yorktown and claiming the right of innocent passage, which was intentionally shouldered by a Soviet Mirka-class frigate SKR-6. Yorktown reported minor damage to its hull, with no holing or risk of flooding. Caron was undamaged."
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@medeology4660 wow, well said, I hear ya, but from my decade living in Ukraine, the spirit of the people is such that they refuse to descend into darkness of mind, even just recently, over Xmas, there was people all over the city where my wife and I are IDP's singing carols and not letting the ruZZian savagery drag them down, to not foster negative emotions. I totally agree that President Zelensky has become more "steeled" as you said, a very serious and stern man, but I think he will not let the heavy burden he shouldered totally kill his comic spirit! Well lets hope so anyway!
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