Comments by "bohemianwriter1" (@bohemianwriter1) on "Western Civilization is Based on Judeo-Christian Values – Debunked" video.

@realitywins9020 So you think that things were better when a bunch of old perverts and power mongers told you what to believe, how to worship, and intruded on your every day life from birth to death? Do you think things were better when Christians burned jews, heretics and scientists and think you are better than Islam? Wanna replace a surgeon with a prayer group? Is that what you call "western civilization"?
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@realitywins9020 Some of the greatest thinkers before your bible was written were not Christian. The earliest scientists were painfully independent of any biblical 'rationality' and 'morals'. Atheists have built your PC, runs the internet, and gave you freedom of religion. Atheistst promoted the same science that Christians want to take credit for now. As far as Buzz Aldrin and Armstron were Christian or not, I don't know. How many scientists and employees who at NASA who are bible believing Christians who believes in creationism on Sundays and study star systems during the week?
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@realitywins9020 So what inspired your confederation, promotion of public welfare, free and open elections, science, free speech, freedom of thought, freedom of religion, freedom from religion are all values based on the 613 rules of the Jewish tribal god named Yahweh and his bastard son Jesus? Strange how none of those were promoted sooner.. like in Roman times...
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@realitywins9020 Oh, my... Is deflection and narcissistic outrage modus operandi by JP disciples? I don't know what I have said to deserve this over emotional tirade of a hysterical temper tantrum. But thanks for the laugh. Calling himself Christian and then trows out anti-semitic slurs. Way to stay CLASSY mr. Culture Warrior! Dostoyevksji, Jung, Nietszche and Solschenitzyn applauds your effort to protect their fragile culture. If it wasn't for you, we libs would have burned them all on the book fire a long time ago..LOL Did a liberal treehugger steal your lunch and give you a wedgie at school? Why don't you try to take responsibility for your own life rather than trowing rants like a typical English drunken cunt on a Friday night as if that is going to make you feel any better about your loser existence. Why don't you shape up instead of blaming libs and brown people for being a fucking loser who must be a masocist since you like to be treated as toilet?
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@realitywins9020 Your 'democracy' was based on savage native american democracy. If you don't like it, then move back to Europe and start repenting for your ancestor's ungodly rebellion to your rightful king and ruler as well as your church for having rebelled against them by promoting freedom of religion to other than yourself.
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@kyordannydelvalle523 They still do....
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@calebblood9146 Please! Religion has always hated Science and waged war on it. The difference between science and religion is that science questions that may never be answered while religion offers answers that must never be questioned. Religion tore down and destroyed, oppressed and persecuted any knowledge that might prove that religion is wrong. You are an astronomer...yet does not question the historical validity of the biblical claims that reflects your Christianity? Have you ever wondered if there is intelligent life on these billions of star systems in the 600 billion galaxies in our universe? What are the odds that we are the only intelligent life in this universe; That only your bible god exists and only communicated with a single tribe on a tiny piece of geographical area to 'save humanity' from himself and his judgement over our 'sins'? P.S. I'm not an American btw. So if USA loses its military power to bully other countries and force its fake capitalism and fake Christianity on people, I would say that's a good thing. And if you think that USA will lose its military power by teaching science instead of bible myths in school, you are not only confused, but has also misunderstood their constitution.
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@realitywins9020 Some of the greatest thinkers were non-Christians... Some were even Atheists.. Ever heard of Thales?
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@realitywins9020 Sure! Let's replace surgery with a prayer group! (First surgical tool was an Arabic invention. I'm sure JW can teach us all about it! You can move back to Europe, and throw away all navigation tools since navigation was an Arabic invention. Same thing with math, yer digts (an Indian invention), bombs and guns (a Chinese invention was the gun powder)........Democracy (given to you by the savage Iroquois)..... Let's replace science with bible studies. Let's replace the police with an inquistion and thought police! Then you can move into a cave.....
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@thedarkmaster4747 Vikings..... What was so great about them? Except for doing exactly what so called "tough guys" who identify with their flag is bitching about what they think is happening in Sweden now. So, tell us what you think is happening in Sweden, and where you get your sources from. Last time I checked, it's safer in Malmø than any town USA where trigger happy cops and gun nuts are running around.
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@Klee99zeno What's it like living in a fantasy world? The burning of Giordano Bruno and the imprisonment of Galileo was due to Atheism and French revolutionionaries? The entire obstacle throughout history was never the church...but Atheism? LMAO Have you ever tried out for stand up comedy, fella? Because you are awfully funny... Good luck, and get well soon :-) You can start out by watching some good old science classics... Like Carl Sagan's Cosmos.
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@thedarkmaster4747 I'm also curious about what old pagan Norse culture has anything to do with "Judaeu-Christian values", or western values for that matter.
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@thedarkmaster4747 So raping, pillaging, colonization, torture, burning heretics and witches, slavery and sometimes outright genocide is a part of your culture? You must be so proud to be such a superior being who can identify with such remarkable accomplishments. P.S. Norse culture was a part of Germanic culture.. Germanic culture had the same norse gods as my ancestors. Until your Frankish/Christian fella Charlemagne beheaded 4500 tribesmen just south of Hedeby in 782 just because they didn't want to submit to his overlordship and bow down to his Jewish tribal god. Which is ironic, since Roman Christianity became more and more anti-jewish throughout the centuries. And then we have the Goths...
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I see where you are going. Christianity is a leech that has sucked the blood of other mindsets, and bastardized it. The New World, what you call 'America' today already had civilizations.. Ancient cultures... All destroyed by Christians.. The eco-system....human beings....animals.....And then built by slaves... as if they took their advice from the Old Testament... However, Democracy was practiced by the natives, and inspired both the founding fathers and others. (The most democratic societies before USA was a thing was practiced by the Iroquois and the old pirates of the Caribbean) Which indicates that Christianity and the Jewish tribal god is deeply narcissistic and violent...Destructive to the degree of complete self destructive....Leeches on others, and destroys it from within.. Mix this with the joy of wealth and exploitation...and you get Capitalism.. and there you go.. televangelism and Jim Bakker! No wonder all them televangelists are deeply in love with Donald Trump. He's a much of a narcissist as their sky spook. As if Capitalism is a conscious entity with a moral code... As if Yahweh had any moral at all...Until Nietszche came along and killed him...with a pen...
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American Crusader So which of Jesus' words did they use to call the pro-slavery Christians out?
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Wanting us to forget that is was mostly European Christians who killed Jews, and committed genocide in the name of 'manifest destiny', money and baby Jesus..
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hatter00 Christianity was basically invented by the Romans themselves... Their invention was a Jewish character...
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hatter00 Hi fella. This is the deal. The bible was not written by some Jewish peasants in the desert. The bible you hold in your hand and percieve as "God's Truth" is a collection of fiction... parables....metafores..allegories... some a mask for something a lot more nefarious than let's say "demon excorsism" and "fisher of men".. The 4 gospels was written by the Romans themselves to propagate their 'great victory' and make a new messiah out of old Jewish messiah myth. The clues are right in front of you when you read these gospels. You read these in context of something, suddenly little makes sense anymore.. So in what context should you read the new testament? In th context of the writings of Josephus Flavius: The sole survivor of the zealots who had a suicide pact so they wouldn't be caught by the Romans in Gallilee... Josephu survived the ordeal by not committing suicide.. so they caught him alive.. which he in return claimed to be a prophet... claming that Titus and his father was to become emperors... They brought him along, so he could write about their campaign down t Jerusalem... conveniently following the exact same route as the route of Jesus as described in the oldest testament a few years later. I will put it bluntly. Christianity is a religion having hijacked a dozen older messiah myths... and now Christians are squealing like pigs over the fact that their dear messiah was not at all unique.. P.S. Eating pork goes against the law of the Jewish tribal god by the way. Having a religion where your alleged founder followed Jewish law never said anyting about you being allowed to eat pork, wear clothes of different fabrics, work on the sabbath, pass by a beggar and ignore him, worship money, try to outlaw abortion, or being protected from your rapist. Who gave you allowance to do all these things? PAUL! Now, who the hell is Paul? And why put so much stock in a man whose only claims of knowing this alleged Jewis messiah named Jesus Christ was out in the desert.. after his alleged death? Why would Christians take more stock in the writings of Paul than the gospels themselves....or his own brothers in his flock?
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They are what dumb people imagining smart people who are on their side to be...
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@philblagden As someone else said, Socialism has got nothing to do whether one has lack of freedom or not. Just as much as capitalism is not a guarantist for personal freedom, socialism isn't automatically authoritarian just because a psychlogy in a minor field says so. Karl Marx was all about personal freedom. That's why, he unlike you, promotes a free press. Something that his Russian flag bearers forgot. We have also seen how Capitalism thrives best under authoritarian rule, since the core of capitalism is profit. Capitalism does not care about morality, limits, or whether people are honest or not. In capitalism, the key thing is to maximize profit for the least amount of effort and risk and on other people's backs. A capitalist is someone who owns stock, and actually have skin in the game. The rest of you are their obedient and brainwashed sycophants. Capitalism is all about redistributing wealth from you, the worker in the hands of a few on the top - just like that sex market that Peterson wants to rig in favor of incels, and not about freedom. Some of the worst dictators have protected oligarchs and capitalists from those "mobs" many republicans feel they are more elitist and hence, better than. I don't know what your line of work is, but I doubt that your income stems from stock, bonds, and a hedge fund left after daddy. P.S. Having Jordan Peterson and putting ideas and talking points in your head does not make you a deep thinker, or an original thinker. And definitely not an independent thinker. Nor do they make you experts on "objective morality" (that doesn't exist), psychology (I doubt that any of you have read any those authors Peterson keeps refering to), Marxism (I dobt you have read Marx either), socio economics, philosophy or gender studies. But every time I encounter, one of their fan base, specially Peterson, these are the key issues many of you claim to be experts on. Have you heard of Alienation? Who do you think coined the phrase, and where did it derive from? Ever seen arts from the industrial era, read literature from that time? Seems fairly gloomy, don't it? It reflects the alienation from yourself and your work as you do not feel that you have any control over your life, that you are being identified and chained to your work station for life just to make those capitalists a few bucks richer. They call it 'Endfremdung' in the original language. Yet someone, Peterson has managed to borrow the term to build his own movement of young people who need to find someone else to blame for their lack of sex. And who better to blame than "cultural marxists", feminists, and all those "chads" with Lambarghini's who gets all the girls, while his fan base has a date with Clearasil? I can rest assure you, that with an ounce of personality, not being an asshole, and a bit of knowledge, and manners will get you a long way... You don't even have to wear clean clothes or be the best looking guy to get laid... you don't have to be a rich brat like Kavanaugh who seem to be grabbing pussies all over without consequences. Or Trump who not only does that, but pays off the stripper he had a one night stand with just so his 3rd wife with child won't find out.
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@NeverFinished 3Digits So what morality did those lizards who came before us live by then? And howcome morality has shifted over time, and have variations in different areas?
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@terrencebreaux306 What moral framework is this? How would you define a "Judaeo-Christian" framework? Why does Christian apologists have to link themselves to a religion Christians have been spending 1500 years to oppress? What "Judaeo-Christian values" does Capitalism, gas chambers, and nationalism derive from? And is this moral framework something that all others must live after? And do you really think that your "morals" are so much different than that of a Muslim from Saudi Arabia or Iran? Is it a predisposition that everybody must agree that it's "Judae-Christian values" and "morals", even atheists, buddhists, satanists, pagans, muslims, Hindus, Jainists, Ba'hai members and Sikhs must abide by and accept as superior? If you think that you find any sort of unique moral in the Old Testament, or the new one for that matter superior to others while at the same time worshipping money, materialism and wealth at the same time, and call yourself an independent thinker, I am calling you naive and brainwashed. If you think that nationalism, religion and greed has lead humanity to a better place, take a look outside.. check some real news...and see how much "humanity" there is when people like you wants to kill more of this planet just to make a quick buck on behalf of some rich hedge fund brat on a yacht somewhere.
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@terrencebreaux306 Do you really think that one "race" is above others by evolution? I didn't think that many American Christians believed in evolution?
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@terrencebreaux306 Which you have studied none of, since that renders a scholarships and actual studies.... Does that little document written on hemp paper called the American Constitution come from the Torah and the New Testament? Did Jesus promote violent colonization of other countries, subjugating, enslaving or elminating any people who might stand against those "Judaeo-Christian" values of yours? When those peasants threw that tea out at Boston Tea party, did they cite Thales, Socrates, Democritus, Platon, Aristotle, and Pythagoras? Do you really think thay your precious bible promotes freedom of speech, freedom of religion, freedom from religion, privacy, and rules against cruel and unusual punishment? If USA was built on any "Judaeo-Christian values", it must be built on that angry old testament god who promoted land theft, slavery and genocide for his "chosen people".. a role that many WASPs seem to have taken today as Jesus freaks, pretending that all Jesus was about was sex "crimes" in the form of "sodomy", abortion, and how envy of the rich is a bad thing,.... So what biblical "morals" do you live after? The old Testament god? The supply side Jesus zombie? Or the anti-capitalist, socialist Sermon on the Mount? "Which is the master race"? Obviously, you think it's you, and hence, have more rights than othets.. There are Israeli zionists who think they are the 'master race'. They would consider you to be inferior, and less worthy. If we shall measure American RWers' language skills, any poor Central American coming across the border are most likely to be superior to you, since they most likey speak more than one language, often more than two languages: Their own NATIVE dialects, (proving thei ancestry) and Spanish (the colonial language) and English - something American centrists demand eveerybody learn. So who would be superior? You, or Obama? You, or Mandela? You, or Gandhi? You, or that brown lady from Guatemala who speaks 3 languages rolling a stroller towards your borders, and makes "tough conservatives" shake in their boots? Who has done most for humanity, Terrence? You or any above?
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@rosssmith173 Well, according to conservatives, philosophy is 'elitist' and has a 'liberal bias'.. just like reality....and facts...and science...
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Starwars Fan360 Did you, or have you ever supported the socalled "Patriot" act?` Did you, or do you support any of the illegal wars started by U.S. government the last 17 years? Have you ever, or do you support secret torture prisons around the world, and what happened at Gitmo? Have you ever, or do you support any taxes or any form of government at all? Do you support money in politics? Do you think that a few shall have the right to profit from your need of healthcare? Do you think that someone else has the right to take whatever you produce, sell it, and then keep most of the profit to themselves? You build a car. Someone else takes it. You get a day's salary. They earn 100 times more than you do. Despite the fact that it's you who have done most of the work. Another question: Do you think it's right to take life for profit?
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@NeverFinished 3Digits What 'objective morality' is this? Where does this come from? Who defined this "objective morality'? Did this person base this assumption of an 'objective morality' that he himself was an objective person with an objective experience in a unique human form? What morality does a cat follow when she plays with her live food before killing it and eating it? What 'objective morality' do you follow when you buy meat from what used to be living beings who have suffered and being tortured for their entire lives before being butchered? What is more moral with a factory farm than kosher and halal`? If I may voice my opinon on the subject, is that even the claims of an 'objective morality' comes from a subjective experience and based only on the culture you are brought up in, who taught you to think and what influence others have had on your world view. My opinion is that morality is man made.. to suit one's convenient need to feel superior to others.' Example: Christians believe that it's not only immoral, but also murder to use any form of contraception... They claim that their bible support them. They call themselves "pro-lifers".. Yet none of them can find a single bible verse where either Jesus or his sky dad condemns contraception or abortion. In fact, the bible promotes it. These are the same people who supports the death penalty and dropping bombs on brown people across the world. We know that innocent people have been put to death by Government because of the death penalty. We know that a million civilians was killed during the war in Iraq and Afghanistan. Is there any objective morality to support their contradictory claims of being 'pro-life'? Christians wants to ban gay marriage, and impose an old testament view on gays from a single bible verse, and a reference made by Paul....Yet none of them can find a single verse made by their own messiah how being gay is more sinful than a preacher having a dozen affairs and stealing from his flock while preying on teenage girls. They not only finds being gay deeply "unnatural" but so upsetting that they keep obsessing about it... giving detailed descriptions of how body fluids with genitals are being exchanged. They want to criminalize gays, lesbians and transgender people.. because their existence is a threat to the religious 'freedom' of the 'moral superior" fundamentalist. These are the people who claims that Jesus hated not only abortion, feminists and queers, but also immigrants and refugees. These are the people who wants to take other people's money to build a wall across the landscape and other people's lands so they can feel 'safe'. Stuff all the bible verses that contradicts their desperate need to feel safe. This is also why I consider this whole 'morality' debate a waste of time, and constructed. What we confuse with morality is the Golden Rule. There are several versions of this rule.. and not even uniquely 'Judaeo-Christian'... All denominations have this written rule but very few follow. Where does this golden rule come from? Empathy... Being able to put yourself in that other person's shoes.. feeling what other people feel.. basically saying to yourself "would I want that shit happening to me"? We are all of the same energy.. realizing and accepting that we are all energy condensed, experiencing reality of said energy subjectively. We are basicallly all each other viewing the world with a unique experience and a unique body. Accepting this will make it harder to treat others as "less than me". There is another rule that goes beyond this: It's called "The universal law of attraction". Which basically means, 'you get what you ask for''. Meaning, if one act like an asshole the universe will take note, and said asshole will recieve this back... I call it the 'boomerang effect'. Whatever goes around, comes around.. what you send out.. what you give to the world, is what you will get in return.. not saying that rich people has automatically deserved their wealth.. Not as if they are admired much around the world by those "envious, poor peasants" anyway, unless they have been taught to worship wealth. You have another objective rule: called the law of free will. Which means that people's free will is sacred. Any act that takes away this free will, like rape, wage slavery, imprisonment, and persecution is a violation of both the law of free will as well as the universal law of attraction.
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Starwars Fan360 What's your point? Who wrote that piece of garbage with the Orwellian title "Patriot Act"?
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@afewpickles768 JP a free speech advocate? Hahaha! Ben Shapiro and JP "deep thinkers" for a betterment as society "as a whole"`? ;-))) (snicker) Does this mean a society with a culture made to conform to the whims of conservatives with too thin skin to coexist with diversity and competition? They are both regressive and authoritarian... Intellectually, they are cowars and dishonest.. Culturally, they are as skin deep as a snake pit. Specially Peterson has been whoring around old dead writers to make cheap points. If I were Nietsczhe Jung, or Dostyojevskij, I'd come back from the grave and give the man nasty dreams for pissing on my work to sway an army of easily mislead sheeple with no capability to think for themselves.. But as I say, Karma has her own unique, and sometimes highly entertaining ways of balancing things...
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Starwars Fan360 Do you know anything about Orwell at all? Do you really think that Animal Farm and 1984 were Randist novels in defense of your RW authoritarianism, your oligarchy and your religion? If you do, I suggest you read some of his background, and the reason for why he wrote these books in the first place. And now, you blame a bluedog democrat for a law imposed by your own party. The "Patriot" Act was an all republican draft. So don't accuse democratis for the sick unconostitutional "Patriot" Act. https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2013/06/congress-government-spying-votes-charts/314519/ Donnie don't seem to be in a rush to discontinue it....Seems that he is eager to expand it. . https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/11/us/politics/fisa-surveillance-congress-trump.html The one who stand the most fervent against it, is a democratic socialist named Bernie Sanders. https://votesmart.org/candidate/key-votes/27110/bernie-sanders/61/national-security#.W-MHmJP0nIU If you think he has anything in common with the '3rd way democrats' who loves to eat from the samee trough as their republican counterparts, you are naive. Corp. dems are basically republicans with a gay or black friend or relative, and likes to play identity politics on that to sway voters as "the lesser of two evils"... Unlike you and your Big spy government, and war mongers, he was and is against a rule that every single republican (beside Ron and Rand Paul) blindy supports, and accuses and leftist democrat of siding with the terrorist if they don't support it. You can't have it both ways, sparky. So please don't blame others for YOUR creation. I have nothing to do with your voyerism. Because if you republican and authoritarian sycophants had any self awareness, or a sense of responsibility, you'd have voted all those REPUBLICANS who favors YOUR 'Patriot" act. That is on YOUR cape. Not mine. YOU own that one. Not me, or any other progressive who was spied on by your RW government. It was LEFTISTS who were mostly targeted as well as your fake boogeymen from Saudi Arabia. Talk about Siamese twins by the way... That's your religious oligarch ruling all over there. Atheists, socialists, 'witches', rape victims, gays, and women who fight for equality are being punished there. Nobody pays taxes.. and all live at the mercy of a few rulers and clergymen....Keeping the "mob" in place. And both you and your fellow RW authoritarians seem to hate the 1st Amendment when it don't convenience you. Free speech, freedom of the press (Marx wrote about this), freedom to organize, freedom of collective bargaining... a fairer share of the profits (which mostly trickles up to the ones on top)... What you and your fellow authoritarians seem to view a free and independent press who asks 'hard' questions to your dear leaders are apparently "enemies of the people" because they don't report the news the way your dear leaders wants them to... Your fellow authoritarians think that in your "land of the free", you can have religious tests for immigration and citizenship, hence, thinking you can exclude and discriminate against peoples of other faiths by law. And those are not the only ones you want to oppress: Thinking that gay marriage somehow is a threat to "your" religious "freedom".. If you knew you bible and your Orwell, you'd be surprised how SOCIALIST both Orwell, and your Jesus was. Your own Jesus makes Marx sound like a stock broker in comparison. Your own Jesus said that in order to join his club, you must rid yourself of all your wealth, and own nothing more than you can carry. But please tell me that you a a free person in a capitalist society run by stock brokers and CEOs. Tell me about all those choices you have when you go to Walmart.. and search for the "mom and pop" store.. Tell me how you are free having to work for someone else just to pay rent and health insurance. Tell me how you are free to either pay out of your nose to a private insurance company, or being billed into bankruptcy when you get sick. Tell me about all those great paying jobs where the market favors you, and not your employer. Tell me how you are proud to work where you work, and think that your bosses have your interests in mind just as much as the profits they take from you. Tell me you are free to take time off tomorrow, and go to Bali for a month and still not lose your job. Tell me how you are free to put in your body whatever you want, tweak your concsciousness even with psychedelics and cannabis. Tell me how you are free when you can hardly leave your house unarmed because you're afraid of big government' and immigrants coming to 'take yer stuff'. Tell me how you are free, when you can't leave your door unlocked and live in guarded, gated communities. Tell me how you are free when facing government goons whan asking a politician an inconvenient questions like Steve King did when he was triggered. Tell OWS they were free when cops beat their heads for protesting Wall Street greed and corruption. Tell us how republican voters, culture warriors, and conservatives speak out of both sides of their mouths who hates Wall Street because of Hillary, and loves both Wall Street and big government when someone actually do protest the Wall Street and have a Wall Street criminal runnng your budget. So tell us how there is no conflict of interest when republicans take large donations from rich donors, and then seek to give the same rich people giant tax cuts, and deregulate their businesses. Tell us how only DEMOCRATS are corrupt while all republicans are as clean as "Mr. Smith goes to Washington"....Because " Christian family values"...(wants to ban abortion, lgbt people, immigration, refugees and 'drugs'.....)
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