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Comments by "" (@johnheers6220) on "Fr. Peter Heers u0026 Fr. Silouan Justiniano - Perennialism Pt. 1" video.
I agree with this! But there is tension within the Vedic traditions about this. I too get confused as many Hindus speak of the One. I’m not sure where that leaves me… but I get this what you are saying
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I kinda wanted that to be the whole episode…
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I have thought this as well. In me it is about empathy I think. I am inclined to want to honor their non specific hope for unity. But… does that break a spiritual law found in my bones, and in my Orthodoxy: non specific hope is nihilism where it doesn’t move toward incarnation. Is my empathy leading me toward honoring nihilism? That’s where I get stuck.
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Super well said. We’ve mastered the making of the clap trap… aka, our minds.
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But even Fr Peter was led by the heretical Anglican confession, and for not a few years. He grew up reading the 1923 Anglican prayer book. Talk about a mess of a document. He was led to Orthodoxy by a mother utterly dedicated to a heretical church. I mean, Bishop Spong? He was Fr Peters “bishop” when he was a young man. Are you actually saying none of that LED this priest to Christ? If you are then I’d just say that seems very wrong. How does the loving Hindu mother with all of her icons NOT lead her son, a new convert to Orthodoxy, to the True church? We just call all of that demon infested and the sins conversion a “rescue” from his demon mom? How could it be anything else but a type of assistance used by God to teach the Truth? I mean, Christ chose the Samaritan to teach the Pharisees about pride. Samaritans were Jewish heretics. I think we can rest easy knowing we don’t know as much as we think we do. No?
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I wished I had done more of it… lightly.
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So… to become like God we must submit to God. The submitters are saved. It still begs the question, though not all that relevant for a Christian, “who are the submitters?” Cuz I know some serious submitters to the god of the 401k god. It feels like this impossibly long comment tells us only people of the book who submit are true “submitters”. Perhaps?
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It’s a good idea. Any guests you’d recommend?
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Sister!
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@As-fs6qd interesting brother… if the book is also and at the same time the word and the word as printed in the heart of man, in what way does that spiritual book manifest as God Himself? How does God interact with his creation other than as per the revelation we/you might call Q’uran? And if that Godly activity in the world is the book of the heart, do we need the book called Quran ? As per perrenialism, yes… but that they emphasized “praxis” always sits oddly with me… which? Why this praxis not that? Why do they prioritize the monotheistic practices (which they clearly do)… I find perennial practice talk nonsensical… I understand why they emphasize it. They have no ground for praxis as per the gnostic nature of perrenialist intellectualism. Or so it seems…
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There is joy even in the internet somehow. That story is incredible. And telling. And real.
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You bring up a great set of points Thomas! The world is, in some ways, making brothers again of the disparate fractured Christian heresies… and I say that with love. I am fully believing these days that the world is being broken into what the deists aimed to define as theism and atheism. Which makes us United. But… are we brothers in Christ? It seems the western worlds turn into postmodernism is forcing a reconciliation or, perhaps, a series of tests that will burn away the nominal confessor of Christ. And… well… maybe that’s yet another way to answer the question: we shall see! As an Orthodox convert dude much of this conversation is not unlike old tense conversations from the early days of any marriage; quaint but less and less painful or even relevant. That’s my approach these days, I think I know what I have entered and as for you (others), I am not able to say. I try to embrace the depth I have rather than peruse the reality of the experiences I don’t have. Or no longer have. And I love Fsther Sils beard.
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Much love KH!
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