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Hong Kong will not be a livable place under these Pro-Democracy people. Those who do not agree with them will have their phone numbers and house addresses published on the internet like facebook and telegram. Then you will receive continuous death threats, at your house, on your phone and at your work place. Your children will be victimised in school and it is encouraged by the teachers just because you do not support the Pro-Democracy camp. Your Children’s pictures, names, age, phone number, school and school times will be published on social media so that the Pro-Democracy people can harass your children and you in to submission to their demands. You call this freedom ! ! !
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The truth is that In Hong Kong during the riots those who do not agree with the Pro-Democracy camp will have their phone numbers and house addresses published on the internet like facebook and telegram. Then you will receive continuous death threats, at your house, on your phone and at your work place. Your children will be victimised in school and it is encouraged by the teachers just because you do not support the Pro-Democracy camp. Your Children’s pictures, names, age, phone number, school and school times will be published on social media so that the Pro-Democracy people can harass your children and you in to submission to their demands. You call this freedom ! ! !
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The Pro-Democracy Camp clearly violated the One Country Two systems, they also violate many laws in Hong Kong and if they did what they did in any other country they would have also violated a law there too.
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Thank you BBC for deleting video links of foreigners in Hong Kong showing peaceful Pro-democracy protesters how to incur maximum damage on the city of Hong Kong.
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Links or video of peaceful pro-democracy protesters ambushing police officer going off duty with axes, knives and hammers were also deleted immediately.
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Totally unacceptable police brutality ! ! ! The police just punched a guy for talking ? The police used tear gas on the people ? Totally unacceptable! ! !
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The truth is In Hong Kong during the riots those who do not agree with the Pro-Democracy camp will have their phone numbers and house addresses published on the internet like facebook and telegram. Then you will receive continuous death threats, at your house, on your phone and at your work place. Your children will be victimised in school and it is encouraged by the teachers just because you do not support the Pro-Democracy camp. Your Children’s pictures, names, age, phone number, school and school times will be published on social media so that the Pro-Democracy people can harass your children and you in to submission to their demands. You call this freedom ! ! !
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loot6 Who in their right mind would not support the decision to have a law against Sedition , Secession and Treason ? ? ? Well unless they have an agenda that is up to no good ! ! !
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loot6 don’t put the cart before the horse, these definition is not even laid out yet. Let it be laid out first, understand it then comment on it. Don’t be like those protesters in Hong Kong especially the law society members in Hong Kong, they of all people should have at least sat down, read the proposed extradition law, understand it before even coming out to influence the public to protest against it. It is very clear that the lawyers in Hong Kong has no freaking idea about the extradition law proposed last year, and they promoted the protest against it. I hope that they will be estoppel from doing the same on this law this year
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@loot6 firstly let's talk about the extradition Law. If they know what it contains then why to they protest to have the things that is already in the law? It clearly shows they do not know why they are protesting isn't it? Now let's talk about the national security Law. How can they know what is inside when it is not even confirmed yet? Even Carrie Lam doesn't know the details yet. All she knows is that it will not contradict the basic laws of Hong Kong. So what is there to protest about?
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@loot6 firstly let's look at the extradition Law last year. If these people know about the law they would not be out protesting. The reason is that the protection that they were originally asking for has already been addressed in the proposed law. This law only covers crimes that are also crimes in Hong Kong with a stipulated minimum 7 years jail if it was committed in Hong Kong. The act also specifically stated that crimes of a political nature, religious nature, freedom of expression or freedom of speech nature, white collar crimes including money laundering cannot be extradited to the mainland for trial. It also says that only a judge in Hong Kong must decide if someone can be extradited to the mainland. If the judges in Hong Kong so decided that this criminal can be extradited to the mainland, the Chief Executive can have a veto to only stop a criminal from being extradited to the mainland. So what is there to worry about? It is all decided by the independent judges in Hong Kong. Secondly, the national security Law being proposed has got no details yet. Even the Chief Executive has yet to get details that's why she refused to comment too much on it. How come these people already decided that it is no good and that it has already curtailed the freedom of Hong Kong people and how did it go against the Sino-british joint declaration? They already said that the law will be passed but it need to be rubber stamped by then elected representatives of Hong Kong. Basically the LegCo in Hong Kong has been tasked to set up this national security Law since the handover 23 years ago. However the opposition has been stopping the territory and hence the country from having a national security Law to protect the territory and the country for whatever reason or they are just so fond of opposing for the sake of opposing or worse they are paid by the western Government so that they can infiltrate the security of China via Hong Kong. Well one things for sure now, if something is really important and has to be done for the security of Hong Kong and the rest of the country is not done after long time, the National Congress will take on that role. So if the opposition knows what's good for themselves and Hong Kong don't just play opposing but do their jobs.
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@loot6 is there any evidence that this judge will be fired quickly if they do not Tow they line of the CCP? Has it ever happened before? If not then it is just an imagination and the real world doesn't work based on imagination. Unless you insist being brainwashed is what you want to be. Judging by how you replied this time then I really think there is no alternative for China but to make the laws for the people of Hong Kong, otherwise it will just decend into chaos. That of course is already very evident looking around Hong Kong at the moment. Truly the Hong Kong people do not deserve the freedom that you currently have at the moment.
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loot6 OK let’s look at it on your lense. Firstly the Extradition law is a common law that is available in All countries and it is a requirement of Interpol participation. Therefore there is no question of If’s or buts but a must to have. This law is the same in all countries participating in Interpol. Without such a law, Hong Kong will be a haven for fugitives, criminals and money launderers. They have been trying to get this law in place for a very long time. Just that the opposition in Hong Kong has been opposing it from the very beginning. Perhaps they have been paid by the rich Chinese mainland Tycoons who has brought a lot of dirty money to Hong Kong or they have been paid by many other money launderers from around the world using the very free Hong Kong Financial system to clean their money. At the moment, Hong Kong is a refuge for many criminals even murderers from many countries around the world. They can go to Hong Kong and live there for the rest of their lives and they have no fear because the reach of the law will not be able to reach them. Do you want Hong Kong to Harbor child molestors, rapists, murderers and so on? If you say that the Hong Kong People was fine until the CCP made laws to restrict their freedoms then they started protesting. Then you are far from being remotely correct. Hong Kong has less freedom when Hong Kong was ruled by the British. The British only started teaching Hong Kong what is democracy and freedom and letting Hong Kong taste what is freedom and democracy in 1992. There was no such freedom in Hong Kong before that. There were no such dissent and rioting other than in 1967 which the British quelled with a lot more brutality. So that is why it would be good to send Hong Kong back to that level of control so that law and order will once again return to Hong Kong and people will start to feel safe again.
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loot6 Yes, one more thing. These rioters should obey the Sino-British joint declaration and stick to the agreement and not insist on changing the narrative of it to suite their own interpretation too. Stop requesting for the 5 demands as some of these demands requires to change the mini constitution of Hong Kong.
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@loot6 that clearly shows you are unaware of the basic Law and don't understand it at all. Unless you are blind to facts with an affixed agenda or brainwashed by the American agenda to destabilise and destroy Hong Kong and China. The basic Law according to the sino-british joint declaration provides for the central government to take care of national security and stability. All the proposed Law is about is national security and stability hence it's in-line with the Sino-british joint declaration. These rioters didn't sign the sino-british joint declaration but their government did sign it on their behalf so they must obey it. If you disagree then I will not reason with stupid coz you clearly show you have more experience of it than me including ignorance too.
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@loafoffloof3420 I think the reporter was there to bait the citizens and paint a negative picture of China it’s very obvious
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Her party is very good at brainwashing the Taiwanese people so that is how they achieved this victory. If you go on to the streets in Taiwan and talk to the young people they have a skewed knowledge about the mainland and all the things they know about the mainland are false. 1. They think that there is no freedom of speech in Mainland China. The fact is you can say anything and criticise the Government at any time with no repercussion. The Chinese Central Government has specific websites set up so that the people can be guaranteed a response from the correct department if they do not like any policy or things that the Government is doing. 2. They think that you will be jailed if you were to pray to god in Mainland China. The fact is the Chinese Central Government has been encouraging every citizen to have a religion for several years now. They have spent billions in building mosques, temples and Mega charges around the country. They are also refurbishing dilapidated mosques especially in Xinjiang area, that is why you see so many fake news media showing the demolition of mosques, however they did not show the rebuilding of these mosques. 3. They say you cannot protest or express your feelings and thoughts in Mainland China. The fact is there are protests going on in several parts of mainland China on a regular basis. 4. They think that there is no election in Mainland China but the fact is they have elections going on in China. President Xi has been elected to become the president of China just like how Boris Johnson is elected in to power. It is just like the Westminster style of election but with more layers. 5. They think that the people in Mainland China has no freedom to do whatever they like. The fact is you can do anything you like in China as long as it is not against the law. 6. They think that Mainland China has no justice. The fact is that over the past decade, Mainland China has been learning and adopting the system of Common law especially the laws of natural justice as practiced in the British Commonwealth. They are also improving and making the evidence procedure as practiced in the British Commonwealth hence evidence gathering and admission in to court is more stringent and fair as compared to that practiced within the British Commonwealth.
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@narumondanauli2845 the Catholic church in China has it's affiliation with the Vatican too, probably it's just not under the control or funding of the CIA as some would want it to be.
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@cindylee6585 I can't comment on this as I do not know about this. Have you actually fact checked this yet? Maybe it's just another false news from the Barrage of Hate Chinese Media from all over the world and those within China but funded by the CIA
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@narumondanauli2845 then I'm sorry you have been misled by false information.
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@dawnnadir In Hong Kong during the riots those who do not agree with the Pro-Democracy camp will have their phone numbers and house addresses published on the internet like facebook and telegram. Then you will receive continuous death threats, at your house, on your phone and at your work place. Your children will be victimised in school and it is encouraged by the teachers just because you do not support the Pro-Democracy camp. Your Children’s pictures, names, age, phone number, school and school times will be published on social media so that the Pro-Democracy people can harass your children and you in to submission to their demands. You call this freedom ! ! !
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Taiwan’s constitution states clearly that it is a part of China and the Government in Taipei is the legitimate Government of the whole of China. The constitution of China states that Taiwan is a part of it’s territory. The correct question is that which is the legitimate Government of the whole of China and this includes Taiwan. The answer is simple, the whole world including the United Nations recognises that Beijing is the legitimate Government of all of China including Taiwan. Only 13 small territories and countries including the Vatican recognises the Government in Taipei, this makes approximately 0.001% of the total world population.
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