Comments by "LoC28C" (@LoC28C) on "Hong Kong: What is in Beijing's proposed law? - BBC News" video.

Adrien You are right !! ! I totally Agree with you especially in Tibet and Xinjiang. The CCP went to Xinjiang and put them all in to concentration camps and when they graduate out of these concentration camps they were given a job that pays between RMB 10,000 - RMB 12,000 per month that would be approximately GBP 1,000 - GBP 1,200 per month. Force all their children in to going to school for a minimum of 12 years. Then they also force them to live in very beautifully built modern houses equipped with running water, toilets and electricity and all these houses are at an affordable rate that commensurate with their monthly salaries. Worse of all they even give their children a lower entrance requirements in to the Chinese universities to study for another 4 years. How more cruel can they get. ? ? ? This is a total disrespect for human rights and freedom. How dare the Evil CCP do such heinous crimes against humanity ! ! !
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indeficit2 All countries can except China or Hong Kong as it is draconian there
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How come the UK can have a law against Sedition, Secession and Treason but not China ? Is there a double standard here ? What is the punishment for Treason, Sedition and Secession in the UK ? What do you think is the punishment for these crimes in China ?
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Hugson Ennis I actually think that these young turds are demanding to change the one Country Two system and not follow the agreement. The reason is that their demands seem to digress from the original spirit of the agreement.
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Daniel Ma55 the examples of some of these jobs I was talking about that the Chinese Government has trained the natives of Xinjiang and Tibet is to also take care of these natural resources. They are then paid these handsome salaries that most other Asians can only dream of. They may not be able to do the scientists taking care of the environment around them, but they are the rangers and the people that the government has hired to assist the scientists and environmentalist to monitor these areas.
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Edwin Hlase every different culture has a slightly different definition of these words, however I would presume that they are more or less the same. Until the actual definition of these are laid out in the actual law it will be unfair for you to pre-judge China.
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loot6 Who in their right mind would not support the decision to have a law against Sedition , Secession and Treason ? ? ? Well unless they have an agenda that is up to no good ! ! !
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loot6 don’t put the cart before the horse, these definition is not even laid out yet. Let it be laid out first, understand it then comment on it. Don’t be like those protesters in Hong Kong especially the law society members in Hong Kong, they of all people should have at least sat down, read the proposed extradition law, understand it before even coming out to influence the public to protest against it. It is very clear that the lawyers in Hong Kong has no freaking idea about the extradition law proposed last year, and they promoted the protest against it. I hope that they will be estoppel from doing the same on this law this year
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@loot6 firstly let's talk about the extradition Law. If they know what it contains then why to they protest to have the things that is already in the law? It clearly shows they do not know why they are protesting isn't it? Now let's talk about the national security Law. How can they know what is inside when it is not even confirmed yet? Even Carrie Lam doesn't know the details yet. All she knows is that it will not contradict the basic laws of Hong Kong. So what is there to protest about?
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@loot6 firstly let's look at the extradition Law last year. If these people know about the law they would not be out protesting. The reason is that the protection that they were originally asking for has already been addressed in the proposed law. This law only covers crimes that are also crimes in Hong Kong with a stipulated minimum 7 years jail if it was committed in Hong Kong. The act also specifically stated that crimes of a political nature, religious nature, freedom of expression or freedom of speech nature, white collar crimes including money laundering cannot be extradited to the mainland for trial. It also says that only a judge in Hong Kong must decide if someone can be extradited to the mainland. If the judges in Hong Kong so decided that this criminal can be extradited to the mainland, the Chief Executive can have a veto to only stop a criminal from being extradited to the mainland. So what is there to worry about? It is all decided by the independent judges in Hong Kong. Secondly, the national security Law being proposed has got no details yet. Even the Chief Executive has yet to get details that's why she refused to comment too much on it. How come these people already decided that it is no good and that it has already curtailed the freedom of Hong Kong people and how did it go against the Sino-british joint declaration? They already said that the law will be passed but it need to be rubber stamped by then elected representatives of Hong Kong. Basically the LegCo in Hong Kong has been tasked to set up this national security Law since the handover 23 years ago. However the opposition has been stopping the territory and hence the country from having a national security Law to protect the territory and the country for whatever reason or they are just so fond of opposing for the sake of opposing or worse they are paid by the western Government so that they can infiltrate the security of China via Hong Kong. Well one things for sure now, if something is really important and has to be done for the security of Hong Kong and the rest of the country is not done after long time, the National Congress will take on that role. So if the opposition knows what's good for themselves and Hong Kong don't just play opposing but do their jobs.
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@loot6 is there any evidence that this judge will be fired quickly if they do not Tow they line of the CCP? Has it ever happened before? If not then it is just an imagination and the real world doesn't work based on imagination. Unless you insist being brainwashed is what you want to be. Judging by how you replied this time then I really think there is no alternative for China but to make the laws for the people of Hong Kong, otherwise it will just decend into chaos. That of course is already very evident looking around Hong Kong at the moment. Truly the Hong Kong people do not deserve the freedom that you currently have at the moment.
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loot6 OK let’s look at it on your lense. Firstly the Extradition law is a common law that is available in All countries and it is a requirement of Interpol participation. Therefore there is no question of If’s or buts but a must to have. This law is the same in all countries participating in Interpol. Without such a law, Hong Kong will be a haven for fugitives, criminals and money launderers. They have been trying to get this law in place for a very long time. Just that the opposition in Hong Kong has been opposing it from the very beginning. Perhaps they have been paid by the rich Chinese mainland Tycoons who has brought a lot of dirty money to Hong Kong or they have been paid by many other money launderers from around the world using the very free Hong Kong Financial system to clean their money. At the moment, Hong Kong is a refuge for many criminals even murderers from many countries around the world. They can go to Hong Kong and live there for the rest of their lives and they have no fear because the reach of the law will not be able to reach them. Do you want Hong Kong to Harbor child molestors, rapists, murderers and so on? If you say that the Hong Kong People was fine until the CCP made laws to restrict their freedoms then they started protesting. Then you are far from being remotely correct. Hong Kong has less freedom when Hong Kong was ruled by the British. The British only started teaching Hong Kong what is democracy and freedom and letting Hong Kong taste what is freedom and democracy in 1992. There was no such freedom in Hong Kong before that. There were no such dissent and rioting other than in 1967 which the British quelled with a lot more brutality. So that is why it would be good to send Hong Kong back to that level of control so that law and order will once again return to Hong Kong and people will start to feel safe again.
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loot6 Yes, one more thing. These rioters should obey the Sino-British joint declaration and stick to the agreement and not insist on changing the narrative of it to suite their own interpretation too. Stop requesting for the 5 demands as some of these demands requires to change the mini constitution of Hong Kong.
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@loot6 that clearly shows you are unaware of the basic Law and don't understand it at all. Unless you are blind to facts with an affixed agenda or brainwashed by the American agenda to destabilise and destroy Hong Kong and China. The basic Law according to the sino-british joint declaration provides for the central government to take care of national security and stability. All the proposed Law is about is national security and stability hence it's in-line with the Sino-british joint declaration. These rioters didn't sign the sino-british joint declaration but their government did sign it on their behalf so they must obey it. If you disagree then I will not reason with stupid coz you clearly show you have more experience of it than me including ignorance too.
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