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Taiwan or the Republic of China with their Government in Taipei represents the Government of China. This includes all of Mainland China, Hong Kong, Macao, Taiwan, and the 11 dashed lines on the South China Sea. Only Governments of 12 small countries in the Pacific Ocean recognise this Government as the Government of China They are not recognised by the United Nations and not recognised by any international organisations political or non-political around the world.
The CCP in Beijing is also represents the Government of all of China which also includes all of China mainland, Hong Kong, Macao, Taiwan and the 9 dashed lines on the South China Sea. This Government is recognised by more than 180 countries around the world including that of USA, UK, Australia, Singapore and so on.
So this is why both sides say that Taiwan is not a country. Taiwan is a part of China no matter how you look at it. So no China is not bullying another country, it is the USA that is provoking and promoting the narrative of this provocation to make China look bad.
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Laura L Yes, China was invaded by Mongolia, Russia, Japan, India, then also the US, UK, Germany, France, Portugal, Spain and Italy too.
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I think I need to correct some facts here.
You see the Government in Taiwan run by the DPP claims to be the legitimate Government of all of China which also includes the whole of mainland China, Tibet, Xinjiang, Inner Mongolia, Outer Mongolia, Hong Kong, Macau, Taiwan, Shenkaku Islands and the 11 dashed lines of the South China Sea.
The Government in Beijing run by the CCP claims to be the legitimate Government of all of China too. However this only include all of the mainland, Tibet, Xinjiang, Inner Mongolia, Hong Kong, Macau, Taiwan, Shenkaku Islands, and the 9 dashed lines on the South China Sea.
The whole world recognises the Government of Beijing except 11 small pacific island nations and the Vatican. All international organisations political or otherwise only recognise the Government in Beijing. To say that Taiwan is a country is factually wrong.
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@Infp-et8il yes, we all know who the problem is. It is clearly India because it is India why do I say that ?
In your view:
1. China has already resolver her border disputes with Myanmar, Laos, Cambodia, Russia, Vietnam, North Korea, Khazahstan, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Mongolia, Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan.
2. China went to resolve their border dispute with every Indian Prime Minister since Nehru until Modi but they all refused to discuss this topic or refuse to have any negotiations at the same time India just insist that China take the Indian Stance. If the Indians refused to negotiate but just insists that China accepts the Indian’s stance then it is no point to negotiate.
3. China is not able to resolve her border dispute with Nepal and Bhutan because these two countries foreign policies are decided by India.
4. It is India who is a member of the Quad that is sending their military ships thousands of miles away from their shores to patrol the South China Sea and the East China Sea. Is China sending any military or war ships at the coast of India ? No Is China a member of any military alliance to suppress India ? No
With these facts who do you think the problem is ?
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After watching this and listening to these few people I am now convinced that Hong Kong’s youth are either really stupid and really lack critical thinking or they have been thoroughly brainwashed.
1. The Government has already responded to the 5 demands early in July 2019. They keep saying that they Government didn’t respond to them so they are forced to protest violently. The thing is that the Government has responded to the 5 demands and did not agree to those that are not reasonable, doesn’t mean that they didn’t respond. When the Government agree to some of them, it doesn’t give you the right to add a few more to make it 5 demands and insist that the Government didn’t respond to your demands.
2. The stupid protester keep saying these students didn’t leave the protest even though it was raining, that should mean that there is something she doesn’t know and perhaps she should also join in the protest so that she can support the Hong Kong people ? ? ? Where is your independent thinking girl ? Didn’t they teach you how to reason and think for yourself ?
3. NO THIS EXTRADITION LAW is NOT for extradition to mainland China ! ! ! This extradition law is for extradition to any other territory or country that Hong Kong does not currently have an extradition arrangement with. This law also qualifies that it can only allow extradition if the reason is for a crime that is also considered a crime in Hong Kong and MUST have a sentence of more than 7 years imprisonment AND it must not be a white collar crime (money laundering, embasslement, cheating and so on), it must not be for political crime, religious crime nor crimes related to freedom of speech and expression. This also has to be decided by a judge in the courts of Hong Kong before it can happen and The Chief Executive can ONLY stop an extradition if the judge approves it. What other kind of protection do you want ! ! !
4. Yes, there are many people who are injured during these protests. Don’t you see that if the rioters didn’t start the violence then nobody would have got hurt. Don’t you see that the police has been very civil even in this video ! ! The police will tell people to leave the area and not only do this verbally but also with a sign in Black and White in 2 different languages too. Where else in the world would there be any police force that would do such a thing ! ! ! Don’t be so blinkered to think that the whole world is against you stupid rioters.
5. Yes, those 12 who were caught it the waters of mainland China deserve to stay there and face their sentence. The things they did they would be treated the same in any other country in the world unless there is no rule of law. Why ?
- They have been charged in court for a crime and their trials are not over yet. They have been ordered by the court of Hong Kong to not travel until the case is over. Their action is considered a Contempt of court within the English Common law and usually they will be charged separately for this action and jailed separately too.
- They protested against the extradition law. Now they cannot expect to use a law that they have protested against to bring them back to Hong Kong for trial. I’m sorry but this is not how the world works. If you do not agree with something you cannot use it for your own benefit when it is convenient to you ! ! !
6. I don’t expect you rioters to understand or will take the trouble to understand the details of the National Security Law as you were protesting about the Extradition law without knowing what it is and what it does. So that’s why you keep saying that the National Security Law is draconian and has impede the freedom and democracy of Hong Kong. However it has actually brought freedom, democracy, Law and order back to Hong Kong. Unfortunately this is too difficult for blinkered visioned rioters to know and understand because you will forever refuse to see it as it is.
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The Government of the Republic of China is represented by the Government sitting in Taipei. This Government claims to rule the whole area of the mainland of China, both Mongolia, Tibet, Parts of Russia, Hong Kong, Macau, parts of India and also the 11 dashed lines of the South China Seas.
The People's Republic of China is represented by the Government sitting in Beijing. This Government claims to rule the whole area of the mainland of China, Inner Mongolia, Tibet, Taiwan, Hong Kong and Macau together with the 9 dashed lines of the South China Seas.
The United Nations and all the countries Government recognises that there is only One China. All International organisations around the world recognises only the Government sitting in Beijing as the legitimate Government of All of China. There are no international organisations that recognise the Government sitting in Taipei. All the countries in the world except 13 countries recognises the Government sitting in Beijing as the the legitimate Government of all of China. These 13 countries that recognises the government in Taipei as the legitimate Government of All of China only represents approximately 0.45% of the total world population. Therefore based on these facts, Taiwan is a part of China and Taiwan as a country has no basis of sovereignty.
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@kamalkumar7978 Yes, you are right. The way China is exterminating the Uyghurs is horrible.
They round the Uyghurs, and forced all their children to attend a minimum of 12 years education. They also provide lodging, meals, and school uniforms to these Uighur Children too. All these young Uyghur Children are also forced to learn Mandarin, Uyghur and English in schools. They are also forced to learn one traditional Uyghur art too.
As for the Uyghur Adults, they are also forced to be placed in concentration camps to learn to read and write Mandarin, Uyghur and a commercial trade. This can be cooking, sales, accounting, sewing, metal workshop, carpentry or something else according to their wishes. When they graduate from these concentration camps, they are given seed money to start their own business. These adults who are married are also given a small house in a newly built town or city nearby at a very affordable price. If they are not able to afford these houses, the CCP Government will give them a job that is enough to help them have a comfortable living and to pay for the house too.
They also force genocide on these Uyghurs too. Last time these Uyghur were allowed to have as many Children as they wish but now they are encouraged to have 3 or 4 only. The Uyghur population faced these genocide and now the population has doubled over the last 40 years. Totally horrible genocide.
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Only after independence of Texas, California, Nevada, Hawaii, Guam, Puerto Rico, Western Australia, Northern Ireland, Scotland, Basque, Kashmir, Okinawa, Japan, South Korea and Germany.
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The accurate history is that at the fall of the Qing Dynasty, China was ruled by the Kuomintang Government in Beijing. The territory that it ruled over includes all of mainland China which also includes both inner and Outer Mongolia, Tibet, Xinjiang, Hong Kong, Taiwan and the 11 dashed lines on the South China Seas.
Due to the corruption of the Kuomintang Government the people revolted and civil war broke out. The people of China switched sides and the Kuomintang Government was loosing ground and kept retreating until the main control centre was shifted to Taiwan island. When the Communists gave chase, the USA sent their most advanced war ships together with their aircraft carries to block off Taiwan from the advancing Communists. Thus creating this division we see today.
The Government in Taipei claims to be the legitimate Government of all of China which includes the whole mainland, Tibet, all the disputed areas with India, Xinjiang, both inner and Outer Mongolia, Hong Kong, Macau, Taiwan and the 11 dashed lines of the South China Seas.
The CCP Government in Beijing also claims to be the legitimate Government of all of China which includes all of China mainland, Tibet, Xinjiang, Inner Mongolia, Taiwan, Hong Kong, Macau, Taiwan and the 9 dashed lines on the South China Sea.
The whole world recognises that there is only 1 China. All the Government around the world recognise the Government in Beijing run by the CCP as the legitimate Government of all of China. Only 11 Government of small Pacific islands and the Vatican recognises the Government in Taiwan as the Government of All of China. Hope you understand what is actually happening here.
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ayush apoorva China places a very high respect on basic human rights. Ie the right to food, clothing, shelter, religion, family, security, healthcare, education, community, freedom of speech, personal freedom.
If you care to look at it properly, then you will realize that many so called countries that advocate for freedom and human rights are merely a sham. Example they have so many people who does not have a place to live, they die of hunger, they have no access to basic medical or healthcare, they also have no feeling of security and don’t even feel safe to walk down the street alone during the day let alone in the night.
These are basic freedom that is not available in many countries, however they are available in China.
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Well let’s put it this way. What has the Chinese done to have a need to repent?
Firstly the cartoon drawn by the Chinese artist is based on a fact that the Australian Authorities has already reported in the Australian media. The tweet from the Government official was from his personal account. He is essentially entitled to his own personal opinion right? That is what Australia stand for freedom of speech.
The other accusations of mistreatment of minorities is without any evidence that the Chinese has mistreated any of their minorities as all the reports of these mistreatment is from sources funded by NGO’s that are set up to destroy China or anti-China NGO’s. Therefore these sources are not credible sources of information and can be easily regarded a fake news.
The other accusation of China persecuting it’s citizens based on their religious practice is completely unfounded and it can be proven by anyone who has ever been to China. The only people who really accuse China of persecution is a Master Li who started a religious cult called the Falungong, This cult has over the past few decades been campaigning for the complete obliteration of China and has thus been outlawed in China. The God of the Falungong Master Li is now living in USA but he has a strong network of news media in the USA, Taiwan, Australia, Malaysia, Singapore, Hong Kong and New Zealand. They go around to all the Chinese tourist spots to distribute propaganda on a daily basis to distribute fake news about China.
They also have a strong network of news media on the internet with Channels like China in Focus, China Uncensored, NTD, China Daily, and many more. They also fund think tanks like Australia Strategic Policy Institute (ASPI) too.
In view of the above I am not surprised that many in Australia are so hell bent on being so brutally negative on China.
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@larry6601 Show me that you are not repeating CIA propaganda with the Milk Tea Alliance. Show me that what I am saying is propaganda and then I will show you that what you are saying is been proven to be paid for by the CIA. Like the Milk Tea alliance and all the stupid street violence in Hong Kong in 2019. Tell me why is it that the USA and other western countries are allowed to have draconian national security laws that prevent any liberty of the people whilst the people of China in Hong Kong is not allowed to protect their own national security. Show me the difference between what was happening in Hong Kong in 2019 and compare that with what was happening in Washington DC on 6th January 2020 why is it that those in rioters in Hong Kong with so much freedom to kill, maim, arson and destruction of public property MUST NOT be stopped for public safety?
Explain to me why is it that those peaceful protesters in Washington on 6th January called insurrectionist and why were they. all banned from taking public transportation and why were they all arrested and put behind bars ? Why is it OK for the USA to stop these peaceful protesters but on the other hand it is killing freedom and democracy when the Chinese Police allow a lot more violence to happen to the ordinary people on the streets of China?
You seem to proof yourself more as a propagandist than anyone else here.
>Maybe you don't grasp the concepts of this discussion, and therefore you don't see how real thought processes work. Of course you would resort to telling someone they don't think critically. You do know what critical thinking is, right? It's a process in which you question your own argument, and weigh it against others. I'm pretty certain we're all doing that here, right now. It's just you who doesn't understand it, since you're the one calling people out on it. But it's OK, I won't dislike you for not knowing how to use that beautiful brain if yours.
It now seems that you are the one who is not understanding what is being discussed here. You are blindly regurgitating propaganda with no evidence. You are also not discussing or showing any evidence nor points anyways.
>Why would you accuse someone of hatred when you don't know what they're thinking? Why would you attack me, as a person, as opposed to attacking my argument?
Maybe, just maybe, if you could refute my argument, maybe you could persuade people better. Otherwise, you're just spitting up the same BS canned responses as all these other BS bots here on YouTube.
Think better. Or maybe you're just not cut out to fill up the propagandist comments of CGTN, which you obviously are trying to do.
Nice try with the propagandist BS. Nobody's buying it.
If you see what I am saying here then you will know that I am not repeating BS and I am giving you hard evidence and not like you just repeating BS from CIA propaganda. So you have just proven yourself to not think but allow yourself to be swallowed by the hate that you harbour inside you of China and her people. If you want to discuss you must bring evidence and logic to the table not just type fast. That may only proof that you are just a bot or a paid shill from the CIA.
Nice try but you are just the same as Western propagandist like Fox News, CNBC, ITV, BBC, ABC with no credibility, no evidence just propaganda.
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@farrahkong1998 The Americans took over South Korea, Guam, Alaska, Texas, California, Nevada, Japan, Guatemala, Puerto Rico, Hawaii, Ryuku, Australia, United Kingdom, Ukraine, and many more
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@ParallelComparison The USA has already claimed and invaded lands and taken as theirs. Some examples are like Texas, California, Nevada, Alaska, Hawaii, Guam, Puerto Rico, Yap, American Samoa, US Virgin Islands, Diego Garcia on the Indian Ocean too.
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@Ragnarok182 Puerto Rico, Palau, Alaska, California, Texas, Brazil, Philippines, US Virgin Islands, Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, Iraq, Germany, Poland, Liberia, Australia are all evidence of US Expansionism
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@jeromepacheco6005 Well actually the the People's Republic of China states that their territory include all of Mainland China, Inner Mongolia, Hong Kong Macao, Taiwan, Diayu Island and the 10 dashed lines on the South China Sea.
At the same time
The Republic of China states that their territory includes all of Mainland China, Hong Kong, Macao, Taiwan, Diaoyu Island, the 11 dashed lines on the South China Sea, All of Mongolia, Ladakh, Aksai Chin and so on.
That is why Taiwan cannot have a President because technically Taiwan is not a Country but the Republic of China is.
The One China Policy is agreed upon with all the countries around the world that you have a choice of only recognising either the Republic of China or the People's Republic of China not both.
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This video is full of false information. If you care to check it out then you will realised all these is inaccurate information.
According to the constitution of Taiwan it is a part of the country called China. Taiwan is recognised as a province of china by all the countries in the world except 14 pacific island countries and this number is going down. If you look at the definition of a sovereign country Taiwan do not meet any of these definition of a sovereign country and it all points Taiwan towards a province of China.
The USA also does not recognise Taiwan as a country. The middle line between Taiwan island and mainland China is the line drawn up by the USA that separates Taiwan and the mainland. The USA is not supposed to sell any arms to Taiwan that can be able to cross this line. Therefore all the money spent by the Taiwanese Government to so call defend itself from their own country is a waste of money.
In 1949, China was having a civil war and the KMT Government was loosing and retreating. They were retreating all the way towards the island of Taiwan. They took all the sea worthy ships to ship their army and family towards Taiwan and abandoned their armies in the western frontier to fend for themselves. Those i the western frontier defected to Myanmar whilst those in the east were protected by the US Warships. Therefore the People’s Liberation Army went back to the mainland to reunite the country.
The USA has been protecting the KMT Government in the island of Taiwan until 1970’s. When they decided to stop recognizing the KMT Government as the legitimate government of China and switch recognition to Beijing. That was when the KMT Government representative left it’s office in the United Nations.
The question of defending Taiwan should only be answered by the Chinese Government as Taiwan is part of the Sovereign country of China. Any interference of any foreign country in to Taiwan will be considered interference in the internal affairs of China. This is the basic rule that is followed in the United Nations.
Hong Kong is a part of China as it has always been. Hong Kong was forcibly taken from China by the British after the Opium war 170 years ago. Hong Kong only enjoyed freedom of speech and real democracy for the past 23 years. It has never enjoyed any freedom, democracy nor self determination. Unfortunately the youth in Hong Kong will not agree with this because they have been taught in school that it is otherwise. The reason for this is because the Independent Education system and curriculum has been infiltrated by CIA Agents for the past 20 years. They have changed the syllabus of the Hong Kong schools to teach and glorify the opium war that the British was saving Hong Kong from the Evil Chinese Government by starting the opium war. However the whole world knows that the opium war was started because the Chines Government wanted to stop the sale of opium in to china and the British and the Americans resisted this restriction of the drug trade to China.
The Hong Kong schools also keep teaching their youth that there was freedom and democracy in Hong Kong until it was invaded by China. However they did not teach the Hong Kong youth that Hong Kong was forced to be leased to the British for 99 years after the opium war. Your video mentioned that Beijing enforced a draconian National Security Law on Hong Kong and thus restricting the freedom and democracy of the people of Hong Kong. You failed to inform the viewers that this National Security Law was a requirement set out by the Sino - British Joint Declaration that led to the return of Hong Kong to the Mainland. The Hong Kong Government has been trying to fulfill this requirement for the past 23 years but it has been blocked by the opposition politicians in Hong Kong ever since. Therefore the National People’s Congress included Hong Kong in the national security law, however it is up to the Hong Kong Government to modify and implement this in the Hong Kong Territory. Therefore you have once again gave out fake news.
The Shenkaku islands has been part of Chinese Territory for hundreds of years until it was taken over by the Japanese during the Japanese invasion. According to the surrender agreement negotiated by the USA, Japan must relinquish all the territories that it has taken back to their sovereign owners including the islands of Taiwan, Shenkaku and many more. The USA Government took temporary control of the Shenkaku island and was supposed to return it to China at a certain point in time. The USA Government maliciously or mistakenly returned this island back to Japan instead of China. Therefore it is now up to China to claim it back from Japan. This is not an expansion of China’s territory but a reclamation of it’s sovereign land.
During the time of the formation of the United Nations, China was represented by the KMT Government based in Taiwan. According to the Chinese membership of the United Nations, China’s territory has it’s capital city in Taipei. It’s territory includes the whole of the mainland of China which also includes the Autonomous Regions of Xinjiang and Tibet. It also include the sea areas of the 11 dash lines covered by the South China Sea. This has never been in any dispute even after the enactment of the UNCLOS of which the USA is not a signatory to. The USA subsequently instigated the ASEAN Countries to lay claims to these islands. The so called dispute of these claims by the governments of Vietnam, Thailand, Malaysia, Singapore, the Philippines and Indonesia are just arrangements by the USA Government with certain organisations in these ASEAN Countries and is not a formal claim by the ruling Governments of the day. The award of some of these islands to the Philippines was done and awarded by a company that has registered itself as an international tribunal and has it’s office in The Hague and in the same building of the International Court of Justice. It has no legal nor binding recognition by any sovereign governments. This fake news has been reported by the world media as a sensational news around the world and has been repeating itself over the years.
Before the Indian invasion of Kashmir, the Maharajah of Kashmir has signed a treaty of Chusul with the Dalai Lama at the time and the Emperor of China that the area of Ladakh and Aksai Chin will be part of China from then and for the future and Kashmir will no longer hold any claim over this territory. At the time when India was seeking independence from the British in 1947, the British drew a map and unilaterally declared the territory of Aksai Chin and Ladakh is par of India without any consultation with China who was in the middle of a civil war and no consultation was done with the Dalai Lama too. The Dalai Lama ratified this territory belongs to India after he has gone in to exile in India, perhaps this was one of the terms and condition of India accepting him in India and we will never know the truth. The Indian Army will move in to these areas once in a while thus creating conflict and border disputes with China. These has occurred in 1962 and now in 2020.
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@ahmedhassanmohamed6826 on the contrary, I see China’s rise will bring peace and prosperity to the whole world. The USA hegemony of the past 7 decades has brought nothing but endless wars, overthrowing of democratically elected Governmenrts that are not in favour of Corporate America, endless creation of poverty trap by US Companies and Greed of Corporate America.
Just look at the effects of the Belt and Road Initiatives, it is not perfect but I still see more positives than negatives in many of these participating countries. In the ASEAN Region, just look at the countries of Cambodia, Laos, Vietnam, Thailand, Myanmar and Indonesia. These initiatives has brought millions of jobs and opportunities to the population of these countries. It has contributed to a big increase in the GDP’s of these countries. Agreed that it is not perfect as it has brought with it some social ills but I guess the local Governments of these ASEAN Countries will need to deal with these issues as it comes out. The BRI is a mega project that spans many countries and 4 continents so there is bound to be problems.
When China and these countries become stronger, these countries will no longer be bullied by the USA in to submission and allow their resources be taken from them and in return the people of these countries get almost nothing. Then the USA will also not be able to continue waging wars around the world or in these countries to keep these counties forever in debt with the USA. Remember the biggest export of the USA is their weapons for fighting these wars they create around the world.
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