Comments by "William Cattr" (@williamcattr267) on "ABC News" channel.

  1. And the President lost not only his compourse, but also his self-respect on national TV to the media.
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  2. Oh what a great opportunity for all of these academy grads! Yes, they get to hear it first-hand from someone like Trump who served with honor during his own military service in Vietnam! šŸ˜‚ šŸ¤£ Oh wait, that didn't happen. Oh well, let these grads go forth with the courage that "Captain Bone Spurs" never had.
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  3. Ā @puffy-pancakeĀ  Nobody cares about Clinton or the actions of any past president. Who is the president here and NOW (this is the focus)? This is a weak argument; using the actions of a previous president to excuse the abject stupidity of the current one. When Trump loses in 2020 (wisdom prevailing from voters), then he won't matter either and we can focus/criticize/applause the next POTUS. And put the embarrassment of the Trump administration in the dustbin of history. Never has a president been so universally despised by the masses. Never has a president been in so much love with himself. The man is a habitual LAIR and a draft-dodging coward. Yes, I am well aware of your argument that ole Bill Clinton told a few lies himself (as do most politicians). But Trump takes lying to a whole new level; one that most people should be sick of by this point in "The Great Orange One" presidency. Trump is a millionaire's and billionaire's President; could not care less about working class people. And let's not forget that these so-called actions of Clinton benefited businessman like Trump (he didn't become a billionaire on his good looks). It is no secret that his products were/are made overseas. Pay raises? What pay raise? What the heck is that? Tell that to those who make minimum wage to hear a sigh of disgust at what you just suggested. Has Trump even tried to eliminate poverty? Nope, just tax breaks for the filthy rich. Yeah, Trump would NEVER do that because that would mean that the billionaires would have to step down to millionaire status (what a pity). Yes, for once the rich would have to settle for just one 14,000 square foot 10-bedroom mansion (instead of 5 on each coast) and have just one Bentley (instead of buying them in colors for their 5-car garages on both coasts). Well, Sanders just dropped out of the race, so Biden has an excellent chance to beat Trump in 2020! šŸ‘ šŸ‘
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  4. GOOD!!! Finally he gets to pay for his own actions, instead of others going to prison for him.
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  5. Don't give him too much credit now. He still has until 2020 to get someone killed! Let's hope he does not get re-elected in 2020.
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  6. I think I liked him more before he was elected. Now I really don't care much for him! I will like him much more again once he is impeached and or leaves to move to Russia to escape the hand of American justice.
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  7. Trump's presidency is a SNL skit!
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  8. And he deserves every bit of it! I mean, who actually respects this guy?? Glowing orange with the vocabulary of a 3rd grader. He has no respect for minorities or women, or anyone else for that matter. He puts his foot in his mouth on any given occasion. Come on 2020! Let's vote this clown out of Office, and by default, the golf courses too! He is such an incompetent buffoon! A self-serving, LYING, opportunist who glories in his own warped delusions! Still waiting for those tax returns that he said he would release once he is elected. I guess he must have "forgot."
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  9. Ā @sdaftermath123Ā  Well let's just applaud "The Great Orange One who is Infallible" for disbanding the pandemic team in spring 2018. Yeah, Trump lovers are quick to forget that doozy of a decision. Of course Trump stated, "I don't know anything about it" in reference to this uneasy question. As POTUS, it is his responsibility to know what is going on at all times. A leader is always in charge, always in command and he is in over his orange head. Should just go back to screwing over contractors that build his apartment buildings, and screw over the tenants with high rent and cheap building materials. https://time.com/5806558/administration-officials-fight-criticism/
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  10. Ā @anthonywhelan5419Ā  Sort of. But worse yet, Trump has lost control of himself! That bad teacher you mentioned would make a better leader than this Twitter "Twit!"
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  11. Heck, we have been seeing crazy things ever since Trump was elected in 2016.
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  12. @Jason Loftiss The alternative was simple. Marco Rubio, John Kasich, Bernie Sanders... and the list goes on. Anyone OTHER than Trump! I am no Hillary fan, believe me. But worse off? Does not get any WORSE than Trump! A Putin puppet sell out. Hillary at least would have stood up to Putin, as would any of the other candidates. But Trump? I DIDN'T vote for him! Want the media to stop "attacking" poor Donald J. Bone Spurs Trump, that is easy. He should resign, get arrested by Mueller, or just keep his stupid mouth shut until the latter happens. That is how we can get things done. Get this clown out of office! And whatever you do, DON'T VOTE for him again in 2020. Voting once for him was a mistake, voting for him twice just proves stupidity on a scale equal with Trump.
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  13. If blind stupidy is deemed "awesome", then yes, I suppose Trump is (LOL!!!) "awesome." American would be hard pressed to find an idiot of his expertise to replace him.
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  14. A big mouth spewing one lie after the next lie. Vote him out in 2020!
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  15. Ā @puffy-pancakeĀ  You sound like you are angry at Alzheimer patients. What is Trump's excuse? Trump is an orange-glowing, disco era hair style wearing moron and Biden is still leaps and bounds ahead of Trump. And yes, if you don't know what I am talking about, Sanders dropped out today, so that leaves (drum roll), you guessed it, Biden! Biden will wipe Trump in 2020. Trump is in WAY over his head. Let someone with experience lead the nation. Biden has come this far, so why wouldn't he be able to go up against Trump? Trump is old too you know. And that unhealthy orange hue he has about him...yikes. As for you claiming I sound "angry at anyone who made money", far from it. I am just sick of people with money who think they can run the country on the backs of the working class. Yeah, rich, snobby people who think they can run the county because they have the money to get their names out there. You must have been born a millionaire or something if you don't know what I am talking about. In that case, forget it. Trump has set a dangerous course for running this country. Now it appears that any idiot with larger than life ego and income can sit in the Oval Office. Yeah, they don't need the little paycheck the President gets, but for ego points! WOW! That is the only reason Trump does it, because he is a buffoon otherwise. Being President should come with qualifications (like political experience and bonus points if you served in the military).
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  16. Ā @Irish-RoseĀ  Yes, Trump or "CHUMP" is an embarrassment. He is such a goof.
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  17. "The Great Orange One Can do No Wrong"
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  18. Trump makes that notion of privilege a cheap commodity. So, it comes as no surprise that he does not garner any respect (regardless of his office) from the media or the public. He carries himself in such an amateurish way, it is hard to pay him any respect, and you know why? Because he never earned it. Earning votes does not neccessarily equate to earning respect by default, you have to earn it everyday. You know it is bad when professional sports teams will not take an invite to the White House after a championship game. Trump's typical response is something along the lines of "well I will uninvite them then." Everytime Trump takes the stage (and that is all that it is for him), he makes a fool out of himself, without fail. He has got to be the dumbest person to ever waste space in the Oval Office. A moron who can barely read a teleprompter. Yep, Mr. Golf President, and or our Mr. Twitter President. Guy Tweets more than a 10-year-old girl after school.
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  19. Fahad Mahmud Look stupid, Trump lover, brain-dead space cadet, No need to be relaxed when I am already relaxed. Our taxes have gone done? Really? For who? I don't see any tax breaks, but then again, I am not a billionaire either. They are the ones getting the tax breaks. You are going to "break" things down for me? That is about as laughable as Trump's presidency! His outrageous words mirror his outrageous actions. Wake up, Fahad. Things are far from ā€œmilk and honeyā€ in America with this imbecile in the White House. "According to the 2016 media..." WAKE UP STUPID! Peaceful as it has ever been?? What are you drug on you on dude?? Is it some Columbian grade cocaine mixed with PCP or what???? Turn on the bloody news and you will see violence and destruction active in the world. ISIS in ruins, eh? Well I guess we can all sleep much better now, can't we? LOL!! Again, WAKE UP! ISIS defeated, that was funny! Even if that was true, it doesnā€™t matter what group pops up next, they all have the same agenda. Be it ISIS, or Al-Qaeda, or Hezbollah, or some other group will always fill the vacuum for extremism. He WILL NOT be getting my vote in 2020! No matter how much fascist propaganda you want me and others to believe. It is quite clear that YOU would believe anything Trump says. If he told you that the world is flat and pigs fly, YOU WOULD BELIEVE HIM! LOL!!!! After all, it is not like Trump would ever tell a lie, now would he (sarcasm)? CNN, Fox news, Time magazine, MSNBC, BBC, New York Times, Boston Globe, etc. and your local news, can't have it all wrong at the same time and on the same scale. So since you are stupid enough to believe that ā€œall is well in Trumpā€™s America, and the world as a wholeā€ we can call all the deployed troops home? Right? IDIOT! Throw the drugs out, Fahad. I am giving you the extreme benefit (and I do mean the most extreme) of the doubt that perhaps your stupidity and the fact that you are so gullible can be attributed to a raging drug habit instead of life-long abject stupidity. Seek help. And quick! No need for a reply. I have little patience when dealing with drug induced imbeciles...
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  20. ...and defend the Constitution against America's own domestic enemy (Trump himself). Didn't think we would ever see a need to defend it against a sitting U.S. President. Sad state of affairs.
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  21. Ā @Fenderstratosphere98Ā  21 is as good as 12 nowadays compared to us that are over 40. You are barely old enough to remember 9/11 and probably have no experience with a rotatory phone or a typewriter! lol. I mean all this in a good-hearted way, so don't get offended. One day you too can boast of your years on earth and the things that you have seen over the years. However, on the plus side, you probably can claim to have been using a cell phone since you could talk.
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  22. Ā @MintTree117Ā  Nope! As a society, we are WAAAAYY beyond dismissing "rude" reporters for an obvious rude President. Most immoral, LYING President "yet."
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  23. ā€‹Ā @MintTree117Ā Is Bush in the White House NOW? No, so stay focused on Trump, the orange-glowing clown. He is the current President here and now (hopefully, not again for a second term). I don't give a hoot and holler about Bush, Clinton, Obama, or whoever else you want to bring up; they are history book Presidents by now. I'll lay off Trump when he is out of office (hopefully SOON). I got far more respect for Bush than for a draft-dodging pansy like Trump. Trump is too weak to be a wartime President anyways. So, don't bother to waste your time trying to make a Trump convert out of me. I am 100% off on this guy. Heck, people from his own party can't stand him. Compared to Bush (if you want to go there), civil unrest and racial tensions have never been worse than with this buffoon in office. He's a demagogue and nothing more. Trump is a 1970's disco hairdo wearing, golf club swinging hypocrite. A mere Twitter President that fusses about other people via Twitter like a little 12-year-old schoolgirl. The man has A LOT of growing up to do. But by this point in his life, I guess that is a lost cause. So again, save your breath (or fingers in this case) Martin Grof, there is no redemption for Trump in my eyes or the eyes of most sane and sensible people in America.
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  24. Ā @MintTree117Ā  Fine, let's take Biden then. Yes, Biden or ANYBODY other than Trump! I'd even take another Republican than see Trump win in 2020. Trump is doing anything other than stroking his bigger than life ego.
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  25. How does honesty from Trump count as "honesty?" They guy lies about lying! He tells one whopper after the next with no shame! I hope the American media continues to hammer away at this guy! Draft-dodging, yellow-bellied coward.
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  26. Null Yes, but I suppose there is an element of fairness to this issue. After all, Trump is taking advantage by trying to limit freedom of the press and freedom of speech! If he had dictatorial powers, both freedoms would be gone on day one of him taking office. Yes, these reporters would be seized by the SS and strung up by piano wire just like the July 20th 1944 bomb plot to take out Hitler. Trump would love to have his own Waffen SS. No minorites, just nordic looking men to fill the ranks of his own guard echelon that will go out a snatch up any and all nay sayers. "All Heil Trump" (sarcasm). Maybe Trump would like his own Praetorian Guard like Roman Emperor's had. This is the way it is in America. As a political figure, you always must be willing to listen to your detractors as well as your brain-washed fan base and maintain a level of constant professionalism and dignity befitting the Presidential Office. Trump is such a teenaged little bully kid who gets angry when people donā€™t see things his way. Media rude? Trump is worse! Just look at him; orange glowing, hate filled eyes. He is arrogant to the extreme! The ultimate sociopathic narcissist, Mr. President Trump! Yeah, he is arrogant except when he is in the presence of Mr. Putin. Then Trump assumes a more obsequious posture for master Puty Pu.
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  27. If they would have put the memo in the form of a pop-up book with a 4th grade reading level, there is a faint chance he would have understood it.
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  28. And just because Trump says there was fraud or that the election was "rigged" doesn't make it so either. So then, where is the evidence of fraud to refute ABC's claim? Without proof of fraud, Trump is lying. In deciding which side is right, it will come down to one thing, EVIDENCE! Without evidence, any argument of fraud falls on deaf ears. Even Republicans are steering away from Trump's witless argument of fraud. Trump lives in his own world of self love and delusion; totally divorced from reality.
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  29. Because he is an idiot.
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  30. Ā Janet MasielloĀ  Really now? What has he done that is so great and noteworthy? He has done quite a bit of stuff that is NOT great. A flip flopsy Presidnet who says one thing and then reverses himself on a regular basis. A Putin PUPPET! That so-called "Muslim traitor" had more respect from the public (and the world for that matter) than this racist, LYING, orange-glowing scumbag. A self-admitted rapist (remember the Billy Busy interview)? At least the "Muslim Traitor" (your words) was not Putin's little marionette puppet! Trump is enough of a train wreck as it is without getting the strings all tangled up! I always hear all of these brain-washed Trump supporters say, "Oh he is the greatest President ever in history" Yet when I ask them to name something he has done that is so pivotal, well they just resort to witless insults and side-step the question altogether.
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  31. Ā Janet MasielloĀ  I have a better idea, Janet. Why don't YOU state a few of his so-called 289 "accomplishments." After all, if you belive he is so great, then why do I need to go look for stuff. You should be able to defend him and proclaim it from the rooftops.
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  32. Ā @Tonymontana_420Ā  Heck, we knew that much about Trump long before this video came out.
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  33. Trump may actually be telling the truth for once in his life on this one. Yeah, he didn't see the "adviser's memos" about covid-19 because he was too busy playing endless rounds of golf (you know, the very thing he accused Obama of doing too much of) and arguing with people in the media. Also, probably was too busy sending his childish Tweets and painting himself with a fresh coat of that orange stuff and getting his perfect 1970's disco hairdo combed back into place. Oh Trump's a cheerleader all right! Always has been!šŸ¤£ Sat at home in Fred Trump's mansion like a little orange coward while real men were drafted to go to Vietnam. 1:57 Yes, Trump would have been perfect on the Titanic after it hit the iceberg. More important to keep people "calm" rather than tell the truth and take decisive action earlier. Trump would have made a perfect Doctor too. Yeah, he will come up with a way to fight the cancer when it is at the stage 4 level. I think Trump would have made an excellent Fire Chief. Yes, wait until the dwelling is totally engulfed in flames and spreading to other homes before sending the fire trucks in. After all, don't want to cause panic. What a goof!
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  34. Ā @toddprifogle7381Ā  Yes, and sitting home in his Dad's mansion in 1967 safe and sound while other men were drafted and sent off to Vietnam.
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  35. Ā @sdaftermath123Ā  I saw it on Instagram? I donā€™t use Instagram, so letā€™s just applaud your blind stupidity because you read The Great Orange Oneā€™s tweets where he said he didnā€™t do it (moron) and you actually believe everything he says. Not like he would ever lie about anything, right? Oh, look, "What's this" https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/coronavirus-video-trump-pandemic-team-cut-2018-a9405191.html
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  36. Probably because he just witnessed the recklessness of Trump shaking any number of people prior to shaking his hand (plus, he probably didn't want any of that orange paint being transferred to his hands)
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  37. Good. I hope they unleash their very "best" on Trump if they get the chance! He needs more abuse!
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  38. ...or a couple of flashing disco balls to cast light on his 1970's disco haircut.
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  39. Spoiled, draft-dodging rich kids that are now OLD and become President cannot handle free speech from their detractors.
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  40. and incredibly stupid to boot!
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  41. Ā @mdjunior5197Ā  Oh yes, I can totally see it. Just like Kim Jong Un is the best choice for N. Koreans.
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  42. Dave Jackson I have far more than just insults; I have good sense (something you do not). "Trump knows how to lead a country with power..." Like hell he does! He is a national disgrace! Obama too passive???? Nonsense! He would stand up to Russia, something Trump does not have the balls to do! He is wholly in the pocket of Putin. If Putin told Trump (yes, told him) to fly to Moscow and bring the nuclear football on a silver platter, this buffoon would not need to hear it twice! Trump: "Oh I get to go to Russia to snuggle with ole Puty Pu to escape the U.S. Justice Dept." Look Jackson, I have no desire to attempt an intelligent dialog with some brain-washed Trump lover. You Trump lovers would defend this clown no matter what he does. He could spit in the face of a 2-year-old and you guys would give him a pass on it. "Oh, the kid probably deserved it, kid is probably from Mexico anyways." Read my previous comments on Trump here. No point in me restating what has already been stated. BTW Jackson, having a few pennies in your pockets does not count as good sense. P.S. An idiot President who wants to blame the governmental authorities in California for the forest fires. News flash, Mr. Stupid President....The forests are FEDERAL jurisdiction! Bye Jackson. I don't respect you or your morally bankrupt President (in other words don't bother responding).
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  43. Dave Jackson Look stupid, YOU HAVE NO FACTS ON THIS SO-CALLED ECONOMY or to support Trump on his grossly rated "accomplishments!" All you Trump lovers always say, "Oh he is the greatest ever." Yet you conservative right wing supremists (neo-naziā€™s) can NEVER state what it is that makes him so good. You people always make vague (and I do mean VERY vague) references to a so-called great economy. Yeah, great for billionaire business men like Trump. I do not see any appreciable increase in my paycheck. Obama, Clinton, WHO CARES already! Are either one of these two individuals currently sitting in the Oval Office? No, this orange clown is. So stick with what is relevant! Safer country? LOL!!! Man, really, LMAO!!!!!! You are serious, aren't you? Tell me that was meant for humour (though noting is funny about people getting killed). I suppose school shootings and the other mass episodes of violence on the evening new is just "fake news" right???? A big hoax by CNN, yes???? SLAP! Wake up!!!!!! Dude, wake up, throw out the drugs/booze or whatever you are on. Get professional help if need be. This lying piece of filth is dangerous for our country, or don't you care? All the shootings and other violent incidents are happing under Trump's watch! All talk, hot wind! Most embrassing person to ever to be addressed as "Mr. President" or "Commander in Chief." Oh, and by the way, the Mueller investigation is not done yet with Trump. His attorney took a felony plea recently, so what does that tell you? He acted at the behest of Trump. Stormy Daniels, etc. UNFIT for the Presidential Office! Oh sure, let Trump send 15,000 U.S. service personel down to the Mexican border. And then as they get ready to cross over, open fire with cannon and maching gun fire into the mass of men, women, and children! Yes, "All Hail Captain Bone Spurs." This clown isn't fooling anyone (except gullible people like you). People will still be crossing the border illegally just as before. Indeed I am sure someone are walking across the border at this very second. Trump supportors, They live in a land of sick delusion just like their master, Trump himself. "Heil Trump!" "Seig Heil!" fools! Mr. Golf Course/Twitter President...
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  44. Dave Jackson I will give the various media outlets the benefit of the doubt LONG before I believe any of Trump's propaganda like you do. Any lie about Trump doing "good" and you run with it like it is pure gospel. Nobody and no organization will lie so shamelessly (and frequently) as Trump! That is a FACT! Ask yourself, why is Trump so obsequious in the presence of Putin? This is noticeable because he is so arrogant whenever he deals with anyone else, including foreign dignitaries. Didn't notice that, did you? Idiot. Russians exposed Hilary Clinton, that is because they have dirt on Trump, but with him in the White House, they can do as they please. Let Trump even think of double-crossing Putin, and some unpleasant facts will end up being released about him to the Justice Department. Yes, Putin has Trump in his pocket.
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  45. Ā @Aviatr23Ā  I'll ask you a question and if you answer it, then I'll delve into my point further, though the proof will most likely have to wait until Trump's upcoming indictment after Jan. 2021 (and we all know it is coming). But Iā€™ll throw you a hint; just listen to his divisive rhetoric and how he vilifies free speech. Like the media or not, the media is one of the cornerstones of democracy. Suppression of free speech is a tool of despots in totalitarian dictatorships. I mean, why else would Trump need to examine if he can pardon himself or not? Did he break the law? That would be the only reason to ponder that question from a so-called honest president. That would be akin to the police investigating a murder that took place and then the next-door neighbor yells out the window, "I didn't kill him. We never had an argument. I was out of town all week." Yeah, Trump, "I wonder if I can pardon myself. I didn't do anything wrong of course. I am the most honest president of all time." See my point? And why won't he release his taxes like he said he would do? What is he hiding??? He is hiding something! None of you Trump Cult followers can answer that. You'd be the first if you can provide a rational answer (again, based on articulable facts). I would have been totally cool if Trump (back in 2016) had said that he wonā€™t release his taxes because it is his business and nobody else. But the lying SOB said he would do it, and so I hold him to it! Message to Trump: TRUMP, RELEASE YOUR DAMN TAX RECORDS!!!!!!! Get your fat behind off the golf cart and get those tax records out here and NOW! Question to you: What proof is there that the election was "rigged" or that there is supportive evidence of "election fraud"? Are there 50,000 dripping wet ballots with Trump's name on them that were fished out of some obscure creek in rural America or in PA or Michigan, or Georgia (do I really need to go on)???? Explain and craft a supportive argument based on FACTS, and not on one of Trump's vast arsenal of idiotic conspiracy (think QAnon) theories. Trump is way too immature to be president. He still acts like the 12-year-old playground bully that he still is. Absolutely pitiful!! Trump conducts himself and the affairs of his office with the tacky and sordid atmosphere of the Jerry Springer Show or WWE Raw!!! This is an absolute disgrace! And that first night debate by Trump (yeah, in his own self-centered and warped mind he thought he did good) was the worst I have seen. You would think that the more absurd his behavior and statements got (and who could fail to notice), the harder it would be for Trump Cult followers (gullible people like you) to defend him. This guy lost any hint of support that I may have had for him LONG ago! Yeah, about a month or two in office and I was done with this guy! If someone more honorable than H. Clinton had run against Trump in 2016, Trump would most likely have lost then and there. Only this time around, Trump is the H. Clinton that people donā€™t like or respect. And it is nobody, no, not even the media or the democrats, but the blame lies squarely at the foot of Trump himself for the way rational people view him; he acted like a racist jerk the whole time. And that 60 Minutes interview...WHAT A DISASTER! How childish he acted, walking out like the pouting, orange-glowing, fat little 12-year-old he is!! If you are going to be POTUS, then you need to have tough skin and weather the good and bad questions that come your way. And his handling of the pandemic???? He would not wear a mask!!!! And yet he comes down with Covid-19 (as did his wife and son). Upon his recovery, and in a moment of self-centered importance he claimed it was a "lovefest." I doubt the family members of the nearly 300,000 dead share his outlook on the experience as a "lovefest." What a goof he is! I too am waiting... This Time magazine cover parody best sums up Trump's presidency: https://api.time.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/trump-melt-final.jpg?quality=85&w=840 https://api.time.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/final-melting3.jpg
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  46. Ā @michael9000Ā  What a crock!
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  47. @Responsible Citizen A game?? Trump has been playing a game the whole time with Covid and people are dying from it. "No one cares about his taxes." Oh, so now you speak for everyone? Believe me, people DO care, especially people at the DOJ. His taxes are the very hinge pin for the legal entanglements he will soon face. Obama's taxes? If anyone could care less about the taxes of a president, it would be Obama's tax returns. Stay focused here. After all, you do know that Obama is not up for reelection, right? So, I don't care about Obama, Clinton, Bush, or any other president that you want to use as a distraction technique to this argument. What matters is Trump (he is in office now until Jan.). As for Obama, when was that an issue and when did he refuse to release them? That is a moot point on your part. Use apostrophes then? So, now you give me English lessons? lol. I made it a quote as an element of sarcasm (which obviously went right over your head). What is annoying is your blind faith in this lying sack Trump. But you are a Trump Cult follower after all. Just wait, he will soon tell you to drink the "Cool-Aid" and you will dutifully do so. Yeah, if you can endure Trump over the last four years, you can handle the most annoying people. Because Trump is as about as annoying as one can get. The sooner his ugly orange mug is off the TV the better. You still didn't provide any proof of any election fraud in your emotionally charged response to me. As for my reply about Trump endangering the Constitution, I clearly stated that his rhetoric and his casting doubt on our election process (which he clearly did) is a threat to the Constitution. I swear, you'd give Trump a pass on anything, right? He could rape a nun, take a dump on the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier, spit on the face of a Mexican child at a detainment center and you would roar with delight and approval. Sad. I'm not only glad that Trump lost for the sake of getting him out of the Oval Office, I am equally glad that his support base feels the loss too. The vainglorious orange-glowing cult leader must go.
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  48. Trump is all talk... hot wind and nothing more. Guy loves to hear his own voice. "POTUS says he called off strike because of estimated death toll", uh, yeah, Mr. President, people will die in an air strike, that is a fact in case you didnā€™t know. Should have never scheduled it in the first place if you don't have the guts to see it through. Funny, the Dresden air raid in 1945 and 25,000 plus civilian dead didnā€™t bother FDR, and Hiroshima didnā€™t bother Truman either. And nobody in Washington lost a wink of sleep during operation ā€œRolling Thunderā€ in Vietnam. Yes, POTUS has proven himself a rhetoric-hungry buffoon once again... ā€œTalk, talk, talkā€¦ā€ only emboldens our nationā€™s enemies. My guess is if Trump went forward with the airstrike, it might damage his ability to build commercial properties in Iran after he leaves office.
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  49. Ā @tetrarhetoric7647Ā  ā€œBut comparing retaliation for an unmanned droneā€ That is not the point I am driving at. Mr. ā€œOrangeā€ in the Oval Office was foolish enough to make the threat that we are ā€œcocked and loadedā€ in reference to military action. As a leader, you either must ā€œput up or shut up.ā€ Otherwise, you undermine yourself and the nation. It was an unmanned drone this time, but what happens next when it is something more? The other side will already know that Trump is all talk. Taking another lesson from WW2 on this point, he is like Prime Minster Chamberlain who didnā€™t take a stand in the beginning when Germany wanted the Sudetenland (it would have been easier to take a stand then rather than later). Maybe next time the Iranianā€™s will fire a rocket at one of our ships? Will Captain Orange have the backbone then? He will choke. We already know he is a draft-dodging coward, and now he is the one to lead this country in the event of conflict? You stated, ā€œ(who are we kidding they were actual Nazis)ā€ Little children and a number of civilians were hardly card-carrying members of the Nazi party. Dresden was later determined to have no significant military value as a target. If Trump doesn't have the stomach for 150 deaths from an airstrike, how will he handle the large-scale death toll from a Vietnam size conflict? I don't wish this, but that is the direction things could be heading, or maybe a 2nd Korean War (considering the first one never officially ended).
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  50. Ā @tetrarhetoric7647Ā  You wrote: ā€œOk so I think I understand what you are getting at in reference him making empty threats and I agree that is a major sign of weakness but I disagree that that applies to this situation. I don't think this was an empty threat because the fighter pilots had already been sent out when he had to call them back... ā€œ Absolutely, it was an empty threat. POTUS spoke all that clap trap about ā€œCocked and Readyā€ and then sends out the pilots. No doubt the pilots had the resolve and courage to do their duty. However, POTUS was not up to it. As for the price of deploying the aircraft; I am sure it is pricey (though I do not know the cost). The second point of what you stated is an obvious contradiction. You stated, ā€œā€¦I agree that is a major sign of weaknessā€¦ā€I donā€™t thing this was an empty threat because the fight pilots had already been sent out when he had to call them backā€¦ā€ What? Yes, that is a sure sign of weakness if ever there was one to be illustrated here. Fighter pilots were just obeying precise orders from their command. POTUS choked... You wrote, ā€œAnd as for you NOT comparing an unmanned drone to Hiroshima and the Dresden bombings, this is a quote where you directly compared them whilst claiming he is all talk. "...Should have never scheduled it in the first place if you don't have the guts to see it through. Funny, the Dresden air raid 25,000 plus civilian(sic) dead didn't bother FDR, and Hiroshima didn't bother Truman either." Thanks for presenting my quote and I stand by it. Now for your quote, ā€œThis war we are in now is nothing compared to the carnage and loss of life during WW2 and any similarities that are there are weak or coincidental at best. (apparently The Iranian government is also gassing groups within their society) he made the right call by canceling the order. The response was disproportional to the offense committed. No one died, the drone couldnā€™t be identified as American if im not mistaken and last I heard there wasn't any confirmation if it indeed was in Iranian airspace but if it was they were well within reason to shoot down a FORIEGN COUNTRIES SPY DRONE.ā€ Firstly, we are not at war yet (and I do stress ā€œyetā€), but if that war comes, it will make WW2 seem like childā€™s play by comparison (though there is nothing trivial about 50 million + dead from that conflict). We are talking nukes here. In WW2, we (the U.S.) were the only players on the world stage with nukes, now at least 7 countries have that nuclear weapons capability. Donā€™t be fooled, I am sure Iran has or is on the very cusp of making nuclear weapons. Do you know for certain that the drone was in Iranian airspace? And of course they claim that the drone was in their airspace, and why wouldnā€™t they? It is not like they would ever tell a lie, right? You stated, ā€œTo your point about Dresden.. May the dead rest in peace but...It wasnt found to be an "insignificant" military target they just weren't providing as much aid as other german cities.ā€ ā€œBut that wasnt why the bombed them. It was to demoralize, like hoe the germans were bombarding Britain/England/Uk(sorry for my ignorance but i dont know the difference between them)ā€ Well, we can agree to disagree on that point regarding the military importance of Dresden. Bombing to ā€œdemoralizeā€ the Germans? Didnā€™t work all that well, now did it? Didnā€™t work for the Germans either when they bombed Britain during the ā€œBlitzā€ of 1940. On the contrary, bombing to ā€œdemoralizeā€ serves only strengthened their resolve to fight to the end. And fight to the bitter end they did. Anyways, let us not digress too far here. ā€œThey still contributed and they still stayed after Hitler showed his true nature..ā€ No, they didnā€™t. Propaganda is a very powerful psyche weapon. Nevertheless, there had been significant resistance from German civilians (some that paid with their lives for their defiance of Hitler) and some were from the military establishment too (recall July 20th 1944 bomb plot and Colonel Stauffenburg if you will). You wrote, ā€œThey provided aid to the Nazi warmacht[sic] and stayed for the entirety of the war... so yes they were Nazi's. Children you say? heard of the Hitler jugend (Hitler youth)? In some places the children fought as German soldiers.. soo yes, they were Nazis. Though I would express remorse for these poor misguided children because what choice did they have? but war is hell.ā€ Really? What ā€œaidā€ did they render? Did a 90-year-old grandma point an mg-42 machinegun from a apartment building window on the 12th floor???? Did grandpa Erving hobble around in his wheelchair with a panserfaust strapped to his back and a luger in his hand? Even so, if civilians were responsible for defending their homeland, it was under duress to say the least. I donā€™t believe that a toddler sitting down in their cradle is capable of wearing a swastika armband and saying, ā€œSeig Heilā€ in affirmation to a Gobbles "Total War" speech blaring over the radio. And yes, I certainly have heard of the Hitler Youth. Apparently, you are not aware that they (German civilians) did not enjoy the freedom of free speech. If you spoke out or were otherwise ā€œtoo criticalā€ of Nazism and the war effort, you could end up at Dachau or worse. By the late stages of the war these ā€œchildrenā€ and others were forced to fight. The SS would not hesitate to string up from the nearest tree those that would not fight and would place a placard around their neck stating that this would be the fate of cowards and malingerers on the home front. In any event, I didnā€™t see you address any issues with the 80,000 + japs that died when the Enola Gay dropped the big one on them? Are you going to say that even the babies and elderly were all ā€œjapsā€ responsible for the Bataan Death March or Pearl Harbor or the ā€œrape of Nankingā€? No, of course they were not, and neither were the residents (civilians) of Dresden responsible for Auschwitz or Treblinka. Would we dare say that as Americanā€™s that each and every one of us is somehow responsible for some of the evil that we have unleashed? And if you donā€™t know what I am talking about, think about the ā€œTrail of Tearsā€ from the Jacksonian era. Heck, the U.S. needed far less provocation to go to war with Spain when the USS Maine blew up in Havana harbor (it was later proven that the Spanish were not responsible). Our nation was hungry (yes, starving) for the acquisition of more territory (thanks Teddy and the Rough Riders). So, we have no more guilt than your average German who lived in Germany in WW2. It is a sad and hypocritical fact that over here in America during WW2 we took 100,000 American civilians of Japanese heritage and took their freedom from them for the duration of the war by placing them in internment camps. Or consider the wrongs committed against African Americanā€™s (going back 200 plus years and to recent years) making them sit at the back of the bus, lynching them, and compelling them to use restrooms designated for their use only, and addressing their menfolk as "boy" or ā€œLeroy.ā€ Does that mean we are ALL responsible for these injustices committed in our nation??? No, but we are all responsible for correcting those wrongs and helping to ensure that America is the land of the free for EVERYBODY, regardless of color or heritage. When we as a nation achieve that, then we will truely be a becon of freedom to the rest of the world; a shining example of liberty. In any event, you are digressing too far from the point here. We are not here to debate the culpability of German infants, adults or whoever, or some clerk who gave lip-service to Hitler so that he wouldnā€™t lose his job or be shot. Instead, we are here to discuss the fact that Trump is all hot wind and weak-minded. The bottom line is this: If the President is just going to keep drawing the proverbial ā€œline in the sandā€ and then step back each time and keep drawing it, we will soon find ourselves like Prime Minister Chamberlain during the 1938 Anschlussā€¦making appeasement to avoid catastrophe. Remember, Trumpā€™s weakness is not just something being viewed by the Iranians, but N. Korea and Russia are watching to see our resolve as well. Are we a nation of ttough talk, or are we a nation of resolve? The fat lunatic with the terrible haircut in Pyongyang will do something really stupid if he sees that Trump is weak with Iran. Heck, I wouldnā€™t be a bit surprised if the North Koreans sent the Iranians a nuke or two with a ribbon tide on top. Listen, Trump is no Jack Kennedy during the Cuban Missile Crisis of 1962. I wasnā€™t even alive back then, but I have to say that watching that grainy black and white footage of Kennedy making his speech makes me darn proud to be an American! Now before you go ahead and bash Kennedy, I really donā€™t care. The fact that he stood up to Khrushchev and held fast to his resolve is nothing short of awesome! The Russianā€™s had to blink during that stare down. Trump could never do this. His buddy ole Puty Poo would pull the leash on him really quick! And you know why? Besides the fact that he is yellow as can be (I know he is glowing orange in reality), but yes, he is a coward and an opportunist who seeks to enrich himself by butt-kissing our adversaries. Trump is a back-peddler, a buffoon who says one thing out the side of his mouth and then lies about it.
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